Blast from the Past Thread #28 ~*~Purane moments@300~*~ P 140 Epi 330 - Page 86

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 322

just so that we know and are abs sure about this, wiki says:

mauve...  from the french form of malva mallow, is a pale purple colour, which is named after the mallow flower. the first use of the word mauve as a colour was in 1796-8 according to the oxford english dictionary, but its use seems to have been rare before 1859. another name for the colour is mallow with the first recorded use of mallow as a color name in english in 1611.

and since rhyming with that mallow i am shallow, this episode really was for me only and all about a man and his mauve. there is also his "kaun rokega mujhe."

i'll be back with more and mauve soon.

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this episode on, something begins which i honestly can't bring myself to agree with, therefore the enjoyment of stunning asr khushi scenes does get impacted. my problem is: remarriage.

without raising my hand in obnoxious fashion but choosing a word with a sense of extreme castigation in it, i say quietly to myself, lips pursed... avaidh. illicit

i have no idea what this word exactly means but it certainly seems to say: wrong, incorrect, not acceptable, shameful.

marriage is, if we are to accept this idea at all, a fairly serious, some will say sacred, thing. it cannot be played with beyond a point, certainly not on daily tv which everyone watches and all the time. and absolutely not for trp. this remarriage was brought on only for money and nothing else.

for the sake of drama and story telling, and because it was delivered with a pristine powerful passion, i could accept, almost revel in actually, the fabulous yet terrifying wedding at the temple. subsequently he mentioned she was his legally wedded wife... which she did not refute. i presume therefore this marriage has legal sanction... they might have shown us a scene with the two of them signing the certificate and a couple of witnesses... they might have even shown us how he devised the six month clause into it... but this was a marriage... and even she accepted the signs of it such as mangalsutra and sindoor, which she did not take lightly at all, wearing them when they were hating each other, when they were loving each other... so.. to me, asr agreeing to this new shadi was just a result of bad writing, ugly greed and complete disregard for the story and for love.

when he returned from kidnap, i did think he'd "marry" her again, but in their way, perhaps by the poolside, under the stars, give her kangans, letter from maa, maybe even in front of the families... but this?

sorry. this makes their marriage before god, which she believes in, with its mangalsutra and sindoor, which again he brings in because she believes in them, seem to be just a sham. that is just not right.

marriage is no joke... they were married.

and so, i feel a disconnect. the only positive outcome of this whole fiasco to me is episode 248, a new level of commitment...

and since when is sex between lovers such a bad thing? and i totally get his indignation on the night of the suhag raat which he'd set up with so much happiness and anticipation. isn't a lover wanting to make the first time they have sex with each other special a nice thing... wouldn't we like that?

and why is indian tv presenting such a ridiculous, damaging notion of sex in the first place. we neither marry to have sex nor not have it... it is an essential part of human survival. and is highly enjoyable.. when we attempt to create permanence between two people who are not genetically connected, the sheer intimacy it brings in has many uses, including actually helping people tether, i see it often as a means of communicating. but at the same time human beings can have sex without marriage and for reasons they believe are valid... it is a matter of choice. to tie sex exclusively to marriage is a bit silly and doesn't understand the basic premise of either thing. I think our media struggles between adopting the so called western ideals and remaining to appear deep rooted. For television soaps which cater to the largely kitchen audience this balance almost always tends to tether towards the idolizing dogmas of society. And while I do think it is Khushi's choice if she considered the suhagraat inappropriate before marriage what I dislike is her saying they weren't married. They were.

more and more serials present this whole thing about two people getting married then a whole chaos about soemthing or the oyther and then they just don't do "it". huh? seems to say to me, a whole mindset of sex being:"bad" and worse still "not essential" is being created. warped.

desist, dammit. and sometimes its almost all one is actually working towards. first comes the angry phase. then the falling in love, marry but no avaidh samandh. then misunderstanding. then clearing. and finally the quiet fade as few earrings are opened and a bollywood song plays. then after thats all taken care of and no story line left in comes numerous buajis and chachis and scheming dadis and never ending  drama descends into the lovers lives.

this is avaidh.

thankfully, someone else couldn't care less about all the rasam and custom and eye rolling hysterical joy over meaningless things.

he concentrates on dressing. hehehe

ah.

i am watching transfixed. (not that you don't know that already.)

• shrug on brown waistcoat and turn elegantly while talking to lover girl on phonewa... blue is your tooth, and mauve is your shirt, slightly distracted is your air... that mid shot magnification... magnificento.

she is in a nice red tent, with a casual knot... but in the casual department, ah that tone of voice and that man going about daily routine air, me casualty.

"tum ready ho...?"
you ready?

"haan, arnav ji, bas hum taiyaar ho rahe hain... kya hua?"
yes, i am getting ready, what's the matter?

"kuch nahin... i'll see you soon."
nothing, i'll see you soon. (sexxxy)

"kya? aap hume dekh lenge?"
what, you'll see me?

pause. eyebrows dance...

hot hot "uh... matlab...?", uh meaning? on a sort of laugh. i have died. really all these rituals, who thought of these... i am going to buy an suv... he needs one. he must abduct her now and stop this nonsense.

she lets him know in her pleased, over sweet, know everything tone...once it used to be fun, but now i just want to runaway... anyway he is told he can't see the bride.

and the devastating comeback... aahh my romance writer di..

"okay... kaun rokega mujhe?"
okay, who's going to stop me?

gosh he's doing his cuffs... okay i have to say, man has that thing we used to call by a very old fashioned name: sa... sex appeal, hello hi bye bye. erm err

nice clear cap

girl is shocked... i liked her look here and found the shagun do up ugh.

in that kaun rokega mujhe sat an entire character and its powerful charm.

he will not be stopped when he means to get something. he will go out there. do what needs to be done. reap the benefits or face the consequences, but he will live life on his terms and without compromise. certainly no one will be allowed to stop him. i have always liked this boldness, this shrugging on life and wearing it perfectly, all buttons done, cuffs rolled... not depending on others... not even god... and should their be severe wardrobe malfunction, ready to show himmat and tackle that too.

i believe the free will in us exists for a reason. and to assert it, to express it is not to challenge the furies and god... in fact, this is part of our make up, surely we are asked to use it... and not keep looking for safety in numbers and social and religious sanctions.

and the man is playful on top of that, flirting away... despite all the drama... focussed on the main thing. khushi. his lover, his girl, he wants her... anything for her, even this ridiculous marriage. i am glad he pretty much says that to her in his mother's garden, though again there's a bit of a disconnect for he's been saying all along she's my wife.

i just read it as him being fed up with the whole sugary shadi business and declaring, look, i did it for you, but get this! i don't believe in all this shebang. this perhaps is that special thing he wants to do with her after coming back... bring her to meet his mother and totally join with her in a relationship of commitment... not of trp and loud fairly empty customs. I'll have to rewatch that garden scene is not one of my favourites for some reason. Not sure what didn't feel right. Maybe the minutes before that. Why a moustache as he blind folded her in the room? and too many times we had him dragging her off and she questioning him in panic.

so dadi tries to stop him. not a very bright woman, is she? haha no I don't think so! he of course appears when he knows she won't be able to do a thing. (however that too cutesie right dadi banter, not my thing, so shan't say anything.)

holds khushi's hand and walks away with her in front of everyone... deadly. i remembered him itching to see her on a visit earlier, barging into the kitchen, flinging challenges at her... he can put up with anything, but not being with her, not seeing her... he just can't do it. ooh nice moment you remembered. And remember her reaction to him? and today.. oh what have they done to Khushi?

needs her. loves her. will do anything for her, even if he does not believe in it but she needs it. i liked his holding of her hand... this time not to apologise... this time to claim... all the many parts of a "vaidh" relationship. and he did say again, kaun rokega mujhe?

little thoughts

~why is garima falling apart like this? and how totally silly is this plan of not appearing before dadi... can this be sustained? and how come neither bua ji nor khushi think this is way too strange to be just given forehead furrowed looks and then go on as usual. your comments back to you di. Dont ask sensible questions.

~ why does khushi stop him from saying kkgsr? why was sanaya given such a strange hairstyle? why is she looking dopey and blink blink cute all the time? where's khushi? I spoke at length in my take about this not complete the name thing.

~ bua ji said in the beginning, she knows they are ladkewale... but this is not fair. i am glad she did. episode one, her brother had thoughtfully asked, should he get his girl married to a boy whose family was behaving so badly... his wife had said how can you say that, we are ladkiwale. garima is timid by nature, accepting social norms even if they are not right. that's who she is i guess, though she is also sensitive and wise about many things and gets damad ji somewhere. (would have been niice to see the two of them working out this issue of her being "woh aurat". instead of aarva, sheetal, mrs india. and yes, birthday.) oh I forgot to talk about this. Agree with you.

ladkewale... ladkiwale. boy's side... girl's side.

ah the dynamics of a society based on giving precedence to men... the y chromosome game, the coralling of women... thank g at least two people belonging to the not too privileged, highly adherent to social traditions middle class, actually raised the topic, wondered rationally about something.

i wonder what asr will say if there's any ladkiwalle ladkewale talk.

~ karan g is a good actor. of course nk says things that no one else can... so none of the so called riti riwaj about not seeing the bride were followed during akash's wedding. ah the shh shh from poojali... teehee. the raizadas are definitely progressive... respect tradition but don't get bogged down by it and stop exercising your powers of thinking.

~ nani ji was lovely as always... her dear pal sumi really needs to learn some manners and lighten up.

~ scary dadi was also meant to raise trp... that avaidh bet also didn't work.

~ was good to see payal whack nk and smile widely almost when jeth ji walked off shamelessly dragging his ladki after him. deepali pansare was looking upbeat, maybe they'd told her her role was about to become soimething. how much acan a girl run after sasuma and upset pati wearing sythetic shiny saree, hair open.

cut to lopsided smile after raised eyebrows... so you are not mine now...

hum toh aapo hi ke hain.

hum bhi... hum bhi.

of course, i am yours...

me too... me too.

 
shall we be shallow? and wallow in the mallow.

Originally posted by: aarwen

Indi di I loved the description of the man dressing up. I loved the caps. I loved the wallows in mallow. deadly.

I enjoyed all your comments about such important themes of life that are many times belittled by our shows. Lots of talking above. 

Of course enjoyed the kaun rokega mujhe, but Khushi is starting to depress me already. Why did she not let him complete her name di? And as you pointed out with immaculate precision just like the dressing up of the mauve man why does Khushi have to remain so upbeat even when it is just the two of them. Where are those flitting feelings of awareness, heart saying a million different things and body feeling a million others when he is close or even when he is far.

Originally posted by: aarwen

Episode 322

"Kaun rokega mujhe?", when a man says that while looking drop dead gorgeous, he makes breathing highly difficult. Air supply dwindling this determined episode reviewer continues. we shall not be stopped, not stalled, we shall battle all odds to get to the bottom of this, we will, but please please don't stop getting ready. He is in a mauve shirt as Indi di as helpfully 😆 😆 😆 👏 pointed out to us. He shrugs on the jet black waistcoat that fits like dream. Buttons it up,  swift and precise movements, aapne dekh? 😃 that you want to get lost in. Buttons his cuffs with a casual debonair air, talking to his wife.  Eyebrows arch is easy defiance.

Oh riightt I am supposed to be writing about the episode. i'm waiting... actually i am hoping you'll get ditracted leaving me alone with my ogling... main aur meri ogling aksar... The heart of which lay in this one sentence of this man.  exactly... the rest was phui. Come what may he will make sure Khushi and he are never apart. 

Khushi looked cute in red, her hair like that kone wali katori day, but I wish she was shown missing him too. had they kept her khushi and not messed with her, do you think trp would have suffered? in the next episode, for a moment, she is herself... such a joy.

Mami gets to joke about eajy monthly installment ma shadi. And NK gets to joke brilliantly about giving the shagun to the correct girl. Not to forget blurting out the fact that Akash was present in all the ceremonies of his wedding. i forgot to metion mami's barbs... both deadly. the one about eejy instalments felt like a writer's frustration... and the next one about them having been room mates for six months a moment alone together not making that big a diff... very very droll. really, what are these channel people forcing on everyone.

Straight forward clear hearted NK. Who isn't scared of stating a fact, even if it annoys nannv or dadi. In a way he is quite like the male version of Khushi, with less complications. And maybe since he doesn't have to be the lead heroine he doesn't have to be diplomatic and gets to say what he really feels.  even here a man will get away with what a woman never can... the "achhi" she has to be so everyone else can be who they want to be... aaahhh what nonsense we women must deal with. On the flip side, since he isn't either of the leads his character remains stagnant, no arc at all. no arc, because no thought given to him as a person, just his utility factor delved into. In case of NK which again works out well since like Khushi, ASR and Anjali they didn't obliterate the good and make it silly.

Just when I can't stand Khushi's hairstyle,  et tu? dadi's sardonic comments and even mamiji's eye rolling, in walks the man. He didn't need to raise his hand to render his dadi silent, just used that wit of his. A smug air to him today. i didn't like this whole thing for some reason.. the writing too precious and the acting a little uncomfortable, he was all of himself when he could just haul her up and walk away. No, he isn't breaking any rules technically and now if you will excuse him, he would rather like to talk to his wife akele mein. And we all know what they do alone kisi ko jaanane ki zarurat nahi,. No one needs to know, because he clear about one thing. It's the love that matters dammit and nothing and no one else really.

Mami was brilliant. While everyone was acting weirdly terrified did you get the feeling of the generic hindi soap while the camera focussed on every face, for no reason at all... once before only i have seen this, when he called all to tell them he was breaking off with la. a valiant attempts by smart sp to make ipk like all other soaps... very avaidh and so completely failed in the attempt.

of their few minutes spent alone, mami called out the thing as it really was. They have been roommates for 6 months, so what harm can a few more minutes do? She says it in jest, but there is something even more profound in this observation. The lovers have shared every waking, sleeping moment together. Been through a lot. Even when they tried to hate each other they remained together. That is the definition of marriage. To have and to hold. 👏 👏 👏

The last scene I didn't like much.  While the man remains lovesick, the girl seems quite unaffected. Khushi's concern that dadi is already angry, and Arnavji is busy being a laad governor about it was believable, but after the initial tirade would she not soften to see how much he wants to spend time with her? And would she stop him from completing her name.. Is she not Singh Raizada? 

In loving someone comes a pride. And even if the world is keeping you apart you want to remain close. ASR was doing just that. For Khushi  I wanted to see her pining to be back in her husband's room, folding his clothes, annoying him with her song, having him around when she slept . She made a choice of wanting to get married in the way that is acceptable to this crazy TV serial world. And it's a choice that she gets to make, but that choice does not include remaining off hand and inured to the separation. i will post my crooner take on the next episode. while something in it thrilled me and i talk mostly about that, i have tried valiantly to come to terms with remarrriage but not quite succeeded... and toward the end, i ask khushi to run to asr i the middle of the night, let nk help her... because she must be wanting to she must do it... the same feelings as you express. where is the chah, the need, the wanting of her life mate who is become part of her, sex or no sex.

He muddles her and makes her admit she is his. Well he is a better man than me, I would have been hurt at Khushi'd words, even if they were in play. Actually, I knew right from the moment of "kaun rokega mujhe" how much this man teaches me. A good looking dashing intelligent business tycoon who also excels in love and common sense. Downright inspiring. that is what he is. which is why his simple words impact us so. he walks the talk and dares to walk alone... life can only be delighted at such a straight forward bold and unhampered by meanness take by a man. and yet he no beatifically smiling, know all, holier than thou hero. he is full of flaws, how wonderful.

Originally posted by: indi52

ha, you like mauve boy and all that dressing up... thank you.

avaidh is illicit... thank you for that too.

in pink, i am equally puzzled by this new unimproved khushi. what is the reason for this silliness? and her look is getting more and more weird. why didn't she let him say kkgsr now... so she could say it cutely in the next episode?

how weak are the little vignettes of romance getting?

are these the same guys who wrote diwali, guest house, faraq padta hai kyunki, baat karni hai, konewali katori and more? it isn't even as though they can write only the hate you romance, that baat karni and konewali katori, that hut, that can you hear me... all are peacetime he he romance, so why this now? how tepid and tinny this so called dhak dhak stuff.

it all starts with dadi... and a channel thinking it knows it all. and a production house without spine.

money is not the only motif of life. but today that is all we value.

Originally posted by: aarwen

ufff.. thank you for these Indi di. words are just not enough for this man. the more times we paste these edits on each page the better.