*Season 2, Week 30* Analysis Thread

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Welcome to the weekly analysis thread, where we dissect the heck out of the characters, situations, and the possibilities for the leap! This thread is dedicated to in-depth character and story analysis in this new phase of the show. Let's explore how the show, in its complexity makes us think. We leave the thread open-ended so that we can discuss varied topics with each other in a more informal way, and new thread begins every Sunday evening for ongoing discussions as the week unfolds. If you are interested in this exercise, jump right in!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I just finished catching up with the thread. Can I say that the use of descriptions like naag, naagin and bitch isn't quite appropriate. It does not matter if your intention is to hurt someone or not. Or whether it's your point of view or not. You are obviously posting your point of view not someone else's

Irrespective of the character you are analysing, please try and use polite, kinder language to share your thoughts with the rest of us. Makes for more pleasant reading.

Thank you for starting the thread Sam. 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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congratulations on the new thread .
happy friendship day and Raksha Bandhan everyone
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

I just finished catching up with the thread. Can I say that the use of descriptions like naag, naagin and bitch isn't quite appropriate. It does not matter if your intention is to hurt someone or not. Or whether it's your point of view or not. You are obviously posting your point of view not someone else's

Irrespective of the character you are analysing, please try and use polite, kinder language to share your thoughts with the rest of us. Makes for more pleasant reading.

Thank you for starting the thread Sam. 😊


Hi @DQ I totally understand on what you are saying. I was the one who wrote "Naag & Naagin" and just went back and removed it.

Thanks!

Ji 😃 😃 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you Ji. Much appreciated. It's a generic note too
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Thank you Ji. Much appreciated. It's a generic note too


@DQ, I guess we just get carried away with anger after watching a sensitive episode until you go back and analyze again or someone brings it to your attention. Also, I was trying to bring some humor in to the writing but definitely see that I got carried away after you mentioned it so thank you. I never have issue accepting and correcting an error from my part.

Sincerely,

Ji 😃 😃 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Congratulations guys..New weak new excitement new fun new curiosity new speculations

Past week was quite an high voltage drama week .which left us all drained..Wish so much happening right from Dev Sonakshi calling it truce and patching up..though they didnt actually solved their problem its still left somewhere ..but they did manage to call it peace..Ishwari's showing her major involvement ..What an I am glad about is that she is interfering and stepping between them in a very careful manner..She is aware of the situation discussing it with respective person..like she talked quite openly with Sonakshi..where she placed her confusion and Soankshi too explained her POV..then her warm heartfelt approach towards Dev explaining him he should keep Sonakshi happy by being happy himself..which calmed the situation between the couple..I though really hope they had discussed this matter in length but apparently they did manage to had small talk..What majorly irks me is Sonakshi "I am not understanding anything I cant understand" ..whether its Dev or even Soha..she again had similar lost expressions in the conversation with Asha..she is Soha's mother she is not able to judge her read her at all..I am glad that Asha helped but still you cant just cant have universal answer to all the questions..I hope she comes out of her "I dont know" zone ..I get kinda irritated honestly..with Dev's hitting vicky becoming the talk of the town and hel amount of speculation regarding it..whether he was right or wrong along with it they highlighted kids attitude too as well..where Soha's behavior her adamancy turned out to be quite upsetting..when 6 year old is manipulating elders a bit too much..Sadly none is really doing anything for that..their are times when you have to change the gear and instead of been way too polite you have to firm and stern..Yes these days may be approach is different they dont want to be too hard on Soha thats why they are not really scolding her or warning her..But Now it is necessary I believe..specially since what ever happened between Dev and Soha she isnt ready to listen anything from Dev..Sonakshi has and should be strict with her approach..Everything has to be tolerated to a certain extent..and then parents needs to intervene..Elena's character has always been a badly written one ..she has never been loyal to anyone sadly..She was such a weak char post her marriage..Except a few occasion she was quite a waste sighh..She was way beyond illogical for me in friday's episode..God knows from where to start..uhh I dont even want to get in to that..Dev Golu scene broke my heart.. they both are inseparable..Sonakshi comforting him was so love

Expecting another dhamaka fire week ahead..with one spoiler up..Its gonna be Soha's demand on her BIRTHDAY to bring Vicky for her birthday and parents wont be able to refuse her..Already we knew he will be back ..but I am very excited to see him back ..Now Dev is pissed off and he is pressurized to get him back ..He is gonna keep eye on Vicky..and wish Sonakshi on his side..I expect a Team Devakshi *fingers crossed*

Keep this thread active moving and entertaining guys..Put in your thoughts questions confusions opinions I am all set..Enjoy & have fun


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't think Dev and Sonakshi have an option to be strict with Soha right now.We saw how Soha behaved when sona scolded her for failing in her maths exam. They are right now at a disadvantage.It could have worked if Vicky was not in the picture.If Devakshi tried to be strict with her at this point of time,Soha will move away more from them,become more attached to vicky and will stop listening to them completely.They have to get her to their side and that can only be done by treating her in a sweet and loving manner.
Edited by y.c.yetikaroxx - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Earlier before the segment came out, I was thinking that the makers are creating a 1:1 parallel episodes with the ones from last year around the same time. But with the new segment, it seems like there are 2 major tracks as well as a couple minor tracks are also being used to created the parallels. The first major track is episodes after Dev tells Ishwari that he loves Sonakshi and she fake approving it leading to her sleeping pills overdose and the first break up. The other one is the Sonakshi fake pregnancy track leading to Ayaan trying to blackmail Dev into accepting him as Riya's husband. In both these tracks, Dev's love for his family was being used to break Dev. ishwari might have done it unintentionally, but Ayaan did it purposefully with the determination of gaining access to Dev's wealth to fulfill his own greed. Ayaan knew what he was doing was wrong and it would mean ruin of Riya's life, yet it did not stop him from doing what he was doing. Ishwari wanted to accept Sonakshi, she really wanted her son to be happy, but was unable to as she could not get over the fact that there was another person in his life who held equal importance and had a share of his unconditional love.

Seeing the current tracks, I feel that the Ishwari sleeping pills overdose is being recreated with maamiji, struggling to accept the reality that her son is not like her. Who has a really black heart and has no good thoughts regarding Dev. She knows what Vickky did is wrong in every way, be it moral, ethical or legal, yet she still feels that her son needs to be forgiven and given one more chance. She feels that he will also change just like how she has had a change of heart. She knows in her mind what he is capable of, but her heart is in denial and is refusing to accept that blackness of heart.

Similarly Vickky knows what he is doing and what it will result in. Yet he wants to go ahead and ruin Dev and the Dixits for the purpose of revenge. He feels that they deserve everything that he is doing and much more. His perceived injustice has made him so cold and calculative that he wants that revenge so badly. And for that he is using children as bait.

The way the currentstoryis such that each character at IN will be in the shoes of the person that they wanted to be the most or the person they kind of wished acted differently. Here is the list --

1) Vickky = Dev. Last year Dev revealed that he loves Sonakshi to Ishwari on Aug 5. He thought that Ishwari accepted his choice and was extremely happy. Vickky showed fake remorse and believes that everyone believes his act. He is very happy to have finally got what he wanted. Whole family against the one person he always wanted to be. He is also acting like Ayaan from that track.

2) Maami = Ishwari. Ishwari pretended to accept Dev - Sonakshi relationship. In her conversation with maamaji after Dev's revelation, she says "yeh baath meri buddi tak toh pohanchi hai. Dil tak pohanchne keliye toda waqt lagega". Maami is in this exact place. She knows all the things she has done and most of the things Vickky has done. She also knows what he is capable of in her mind. But her heart refuses to accept it. It says he is your child. He cannot be that bad. All he needs is a chance to prove himself. And he will show them. That my upbringing is not all bad. That he is good too.

3) Dev = Sonakshi. Sonakshi was surprised when Dev told her that Ishwari had accepted her. She was happy that she could now be with Dev forever. But she still had her doubts. Dev is exactly in this place. He wants to believe that Vickky feels true remorse and that he has changed. But he has his reservations which is very valid.During Ayaan track, it is only Sonakshi who doubted him. She was all alone(kind of) against the whole family. She couldn't get rid of that feeling that Ayaan was not who he said he was. Dev is in the very same place. He knows that Vickky is not someone who whould change in such a short period of time. Yet is defenseless against him.

4) Ishwari = Bijoy. Bijoy was happy with his daughters happiness. That she had found the best guy in the world. Ishwari truly is happy with Dev's happiness. She wants everyone to like him for who he is.

5) Elena = Vickky. Vickky was surprised that Dev loves Sonakshi. From his perspective she was in no way equal to him. He saw her as a gold digger like him who had her eyes on Dev's wealth. Elena thinks Vickky was right. That he was never treated fair. She thinks that she did him such a huge favor and he didn't thank her. That Dev doesn't deserve what he has when he couldn't support his brother. From her eyes right now, Vickky is the better person of the two.

6) Sonakshi = Maamaji. Maamaji liked Sonakshi. He knew she was a very nice girl with good upbringing. He also loved Dev very much and wanted him to have al the happiness in the world. And if it is with Sonakshi, then he was happy for her. He also knew how difficult it was for Ishwari to accept the truth. Now she is in his place. She loves Dev and wants him to have all the happiness. She knows that Dev is right and Vickky is dangerous. But like Maamaji is hoping that Vickky has truly changed and wishes that they become a happy family again.

7) Maamaji = maami. Maami was not happy that Dev chose Sonakshi as his life partner. From her perspective Sonakshi was not the right choice. She was not of their community nor she was rich. She also thought her as a gold digger. Maamaji is not happy with what Vickky has done. He also has apprehension about Vickky's supposed remorse.

The upcoming weeks is going to be a very bumpy ride since in both these tracks Dev's emotions were intense. If during Ishwari sleeping dose track, he was very happy that he will be able to be with Sonakshi forever, in the other he was wrought with anxiety. Especially since there was talks about child and he wanted to even defy god to change his destiny.

In the sleeping pills track, Dev had to go through the pain of separation from Sonakshi while in the Ayaan track he was successful in getting rid of him. I wish the current tracks end the same way as these two tracks ended. i.e. at the end of the current track, everyone including maami come to know of Vickky's true face and in the other where Ayaan's truth was revealed and Dev was able to get rid of him. Like that in this too I sincerely wish that Dev is able to get rid of Vickky once and for all.😃
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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New wk..new thread 👍🏼👏

Some random thoughts for some random scenes :

So Ishwari cudn feel any differences bet pati wala pyar n beta wala pyar.. Seriously ? Ohh that's y she wanted to b Dev's saathi' instead of "saaya ", infact wat she needed exactly was Dev's "sahara ". Ishwari wanted to b more connected with Dev emotionally n competed with Sona's patni wala pyar n the end result was tragic. But now too she cudn get that properly , that's wat surprised me . But liked Sona's interpretation of luv . Wen the transparent , water like luv get mixed up with various colours of luv , it gets blackened loosing it's transparency. So the different shades of luv is obvious but v need to draw the lines . Wen Dev said to Sona that he luvs her the same way he luvs soha or his maa, I cudn take that too. How cud that b possible Dev ? Ofcourse it's the same emotion Luv but the feelings r different n it shud b different or else u need medical assistance . ( Btw, did Dev confessed to Sona as " I luv u as a son luvs a mother " ?? 🤪 )

Till the other day , Elena was busy with her cam n other commitments but suddenly started showing interest in Golu's studies , school etc. Quite interesting ! Elena was nt interested in going to school even for Golu's open house ( PT meeting) . Also she started showing withdrawal symptoms regarding her hubby ofcourse , afterall he started to change naa ??

Wen Sonakshi said that she cudn understand the weird behaviour of Soha , I also thought as a mother , how cud she nt b but on a serious note , it might happen sometimes . Wen Dev introduced to Soha as her papa, the lil girl very much got confused . Even though Sonakshi was giving full attention to Soha then but cudn figure it out as wat went wrong with her. But wen she talked to Jatin ( I still miss that character . Y the makers jst eradicate his character ? Jatin was said to b the first one to hold tiny soha in his arms..truly a father figure to Soha ) Sona understood that bcoz of Soha's promise that she didn want to c her papa, soha was acting weirdly as she broke that promise. So now too Sona is trying to figure that out as wat went wrong with Soha. That's y she said to Elena that she'll b going to meet Soha's teacher. Sona shared her concern with Asha too n she suggested that Soha was doing this deliberately to gain attention from her parents. I hpe , from now onwards , due attention will fall on Soha from her parents. (Jst remembered ishwari saying in season 1.. mein apne bete ko janti hu. Dev loha hai etc etc. But infact Ishwari cudn understand Dev @ all . Dev was broken into pieces inside after separation from Sona but Ishwari cudn felt any difference. So it's better Sona accepting that she can't understand her daughter )

Last but nt least , after the rain dance , Dev Sona went for their lunch date. Then a random lil girl came n said to Dev that his smile is good n hero types. I didn get it ..I meant , I won't allow my girl to go n say something like this to an unknown person . Actually if the makers wanted to add such a scene , a perfect situation was der. Dev recently launched his new software on TV , so obviously everybody noticed that. The conversation wud've been more logical ( I know this word is irrelevent for daily soaps but still ) had the girl said . " uncle , I've seen u on TV. I like u'r smile "...something something . (TBH, I liked it wen the girl said that she like his smile n he smiles like a hero bcoz indeed he is but that doesn't mean , I'll allow my girl to do the same n in reality , I've 2 boys , even if I wanted them to tell something like this to some one like Dev, they won't go n infact they don like me watching these actors 😆 ) But anyways I'm appreciating the writers efforts to incorporate real incidents too in reel like floppy hair, wonder woman , hero type looks , chuha-aided hair cut etc .

Interesting wk ahead n I'm looking forward to that ...

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