*Season 2, Week 16* Analysis Thread

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Welcome to the weekly analysis thread, where we dissect the heck out of the characters, situations, and the possibilities for the leap! This thread is dedicated to in-depth character and story analysis in this new phase of the show. Let's explore how the show, in its complexity makes us think. We leave the thread open-ended so that we can discuss varied topics with each other in a more informal way, and new thread begins every Sunday evening for ongoing discussions as the week unfolds. If you are interested in this exercise, jump right in!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you Sam. You were missed.
@all-lets continue to discuss like we have been last few days.

As for me, I can't untangle myself from Dev's mane 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Congrats guys on the new thread!🥳 Its been a confusing week for me but hopefully with Ishwaris entry n Shaheers presence will sail the ship in the right direction...!Thinking of catching the last weeks episodes again as many writeups here were positively encouraging to view in a different n better light!
@Sam would definately want to read ur take on the episodes...U were thoroughly missed🤗


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Congratulations ..

New week New excitement
Looking forward for alot..most probably Ishwari's return..some smoothness and calmness in track..Pace needs to slow down a bit for better flow and connectivity between scene

Waiting for lot of fun in upcoming episodes
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Welcome back, Sam... I hope that you had a pleasant week.. Your views were sorely missed..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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congratulations on the new thread
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Congrats on the new thread :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi


@bold blue. Mahua, the realization is not upto the mark as it is not complete. When the separation happened 7 years ago, all three of them (Dev, ishwari and Sonakshi) started moving in opposite directions to each other. Imagine a graph sheet where these 3 are on the 3 quadrants and the arrow is pointing away from each other. That is how these 3 were. But with this weeks episode all it happened is Dev and Sonakshi have stopped on the spot. All they did was do a 180 degree turn and look at each other that is all and nothing more than that. Till now they did not want to look at each other, but now they have started to bring each other in their line of vision. They had thought that Suhana was their happiness alone and saw her in front of them by themselves. But now they are placing her in the center of both their line.

I wish I could draw graphs here to what what I wanted to convey. 😆 . It will become easier to imagine them as the 3 dots in the 3 quadrants of the graph. Dev and Sonakshi now place Suhana in the center of that graph i.e. @ 0 (zero). When Ishwari comes back she will also place her at zero. She is not their individual happiness but collective happiness. That is what they realized this week.

This in no way means that everything is fine and forgotten or forgiven. It just means that they are now ready to review the forgotten and analyze it, think through it. They are now more open to talk about what went wrong and where they failed. There is still a lot to happen before they can reach Soha the middle point. 😃


Heya Shavi

Yes I understand basically they are just looking at each others direction ..Right??
amd precisely its like 360 degree turn in them as per me..Untill tuesday's episode the subtle feel in Sonakshi's behaviour was something I feel was totally misunderstood by me infact her Monday monologue gave me a very different inclination..But the massive jump they took on wednesday was almost indigestible by me..that flow between these 3 episodes was bumpy..where till tues their were low soft tides in the sea but suddenly their was Tsunami which changed the whole scenario

They are seeing eaxh other now and that should have happened at one point of time like in Boss house Dev clearly once refused to know what hardships Sonakshi faced..Then Sonakshi in fit of anger a lot pf things but time to time the tiny introspections were happening they upper surface was getting scratched gradually in a very relatable manner..where they were ups and downs in their behaviour and very much in sync with their changed personality plus old characteristics and the harder test begun in Dixit house day 1 was perfect and it wud have continued but apparently everything took a unusual turn with "Khatri" entry though I couldn't understand the purpose of it but later realised he was not their for Ishwari Sona but Dev Sona and bamm the realisation took place..And I wondered I mentioned previously as well what khatri did could have been done during tara mandal incident too..Yes Khatri's incident could have helped them melt a bit soften a little more in continuity to Bose house progress..But this whole past attack that happened didn't look connected here..Sonakshi help him..thats good then he should have thanked her she should have politely accepted it..telling him to help him of he need any..Thats it..This hangover of 7 years got washed away in matter of minutes..I am sorry I am guilty ..you were not wrong ..I broke the promise..I misunderstood Jatin..My mouth was like :O scratching my head thinking ye kya hua

Now talking about Khatri sequence as his presence without Ishwari had a very incomplete meaning coz she was prime char here..He wasn't required at this point of time..They could have showed him post Ishwaris come back in Dixit house..Coming to their confrontation..Shavi I couldn't connect this truce with Soha as their conversation didnt indicate so..(though they should think about her happiness, but thats a whole different point all together,will elaborate it some other time) it was purely related to the mistakes they did and confessed their share of guilt..though later Soha came in to picture where Dev felt guilty that he left without informing her and I believe this would have even happened once his anger had subsided ( as in their confrontation didn't play much role here)

One more thing I want to mention here is Soha..I don't know if its purposely done to realise Dev how important he is in Soha life or to indicate how imperfect he is but still is very perfect in Soha's eyes..But Soha's "perfect" "superhero" thing which looked kinda understandable at one point now looks weird ..infact how she transforms from a 6 year old stubborn kid who forced her parents to stay together to a very mature one for her age who wanted to celebrate her separated parents anniversary then tells her mothr to be with her fathr since he needs her..These flips from kid are not convincing enough..With Golu I feel more consistency

I dont know how are they gonna proceed further..They can not justify this realisation part now Sighh :(


My POV No offense

Edited by sjain - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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One of my favorite weekend activities is thinking about Krpkab apart from all the other things. 😆 . This week my thoughts were on some of the things that have been kept consistent throughout the series. They are --

1) samosas -- There has been regular mentioning of samosas throughout the series. When Dev takes Ishwari and Sonakshi to the young achievements award party. Where Sonakshi brings a plate of salad to Ishwari in front of the ministers wife, Ishwari defends Sonakshi by saying that she is a good nutritionist, but is also strict. She says she has been dying to eat "samosas". The day Ishwari throws Sonakshi out of the house as a nutritionist, before that happens it is shown that Vickky brings special "samosas" for Ishwari, maami and himself. Sonakshi stops Ishwari from eating them following which maami makes a big hungama and gets Sonakshi fired. On the Diwali time it was shown that Dev brings kachori and "samosas" for breakfast. In Friday's episode, maami again mentions samosas and tells that Sonakshi and Suhana are like the chilliest in them. I feel this is in reference to looking beyond what is directly visible. i.e. The soft and savory interior inside a hard shell.

2) Fire and Burning -- I feel the reference to fire and burning is shown throughout the series in one way or the other. Maami and Vickky are shown to burn with jealousy in regards to Dev and Ishwari and their prosperity and are still feeling it. Maami was shown to burn her own house down in order to come and live in IN. She burned with the way Dev treated Ishwari, something she wanted for herself meaning she wanted Vickky also give that kind of respect to her. We also have the wedding fire, fire during SR where it burns bright with passion, in Shimla where the fire of love is extinguished, the farmhouse fire which consumed their relationship, fire at summer camp where both Dev and Sonakshi realized that they can still read each other and the fire in the forest where they realize that their hatred is actually a facade to cover the anger and disappointment that they have with each other.

3) Chori -- this term has been used across the whole series. The first time Dev and Sonakshi meet, Sonakshi tells Dev "ek toh chori uparse sinazhori". 😆 . Then the first time Sonakshi comes to IN and before Dev can introduce her as the doctor, Ishwari tells her that she is waiting for "safeed coat wali chorni". Then Sonakshi catches GKB stealing from Ishwari's room drawer leading to Dev saying that Sonakshi shouldn't have made GKB feel like a "chor". Then Vickky steals Dev's watch and when Dev reveals it stolen maami says that "sona khona aur paana dono apshakun hota hai". There was also mentioning of chori when maami sees gold watch on Ranveer's hands. After that it is Vickky stealing money from company account which Dev tells at home. This is during his wedding with Elena. The major accusation of "chori" in season 1 is to the Boses for the 5cr given by Dev.

In season 2, there was reference to chori again with the same proverb by Sonakshi in their forest fight. Now we have another major track involving the same "chori" by Ishwari.

It is amazing how the meaning of "chori" differs in each of the above situations and how it affects the person.


Apart from these contrasting themes, a couple of other highlights in last weeks episodes.

1) Ronita vs Sonakshi -- it was shown that Ronita's mom wants Ronita to interfere in Sonakshi's life and get her out of Bose house. But it was shown as Ronita refusing to do so and saying that her place is different than Sonakshi's and she already has that place. Here Ronita respected Sonakshi's privacy even though she has the rights to talk on that subject.

Although Boses did not say anything to Sonakshi, her actions were such that it seemed like she had a problem with Neha staying at IN. I am not doubting Sonakshi's intentions here. But just pointing out that her actions were misunderstood as such. Like she wanted to get rid of Neha.

2) References to Sun and Moon -- Sonakshi in her story to Dev when he was beaten up by goons refers to Suhana as her "sun". She also is shown waking Suhana with a song where she once again refers to her as "sun". In her talk with maamaji Sonakshi says "Dev kisi aur ka chand hai, who mera suraj kaise ban payega". But during the anniversary celebration, the same "sun (Suhana) has started to revolve around "moon (Dev). It was also interesting that in the poem that Suhana recited, it only praises Dev and not Sonakshi. I mean it was not Dev's birthday. It was the wedding anniversary of both Dev and Sonakshi, but the whole time Suhana mainly addressed Dev and he was the main point of view for her. I feel it was in reference to what Sam mentioned-- biological advantage.

I felt both the above parallels will play a role in the upcoming episodes. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i forgot to mention few things in my above post

Shavi you said its an incomplete realisation thats true..but apparently It reminds me of the their patch up post 1st break up ( thanks for reminding me Charu) where things were badly badly rushed..Even at that time no body tried to understand the reasons equation problems issues they just wanted the end result thats is Dev and Sonakshi's marriage ..Everything was pushed under the carpet to move ahead..And this time too their was a much needed analysing required by the couple which didnt not happen they resolved issues by apologising and admitting their faults but they still according to me don't realise what exactly and why it went wrong..Dev various times appreciated her understanding attitude during their married life but it didn't result in to anything positive..According to my point of view the hurdles need to be crossed gradually with several parallels created where they had gotten a chance to face circumstances which would have took them back in time..to help them dissect what and where they went wrong..equally involving Ishwari to see how she could not understand,adjust with Sonakshi or the difference between herself as mothr and Sonakshi as motnr..comparing it..Dev to feel realize where he couldn't be their for Sonakshi when she needed him and Sonakshi to understand Ishwari as mothr to witness the change between Dev and Ishwari's connection..Involving her in day to day activity of the house to depict the change in their personalities post 7 years ..to evolve ..to read each other well..to be in each other's shoes and feel for the other...Coz ultimate
y they have to live together so this journey of realisation has to be a team effort not just couple's..what problems they have as couple are separate but the cracks in their married life primarily started because of Dixits and Tripathis and Boses too..So mending should start in that way only

Well all this my wishful thinking which wont be happening anymore since the prime hurdle is crossed by the couple..sighh..Hoping for the best

PS random ..but like Bijoy Dev had fake truce for family and Soha..They could have shown something similar between Ishwari Sonakshi too it could have been a good start for them in repairing their relationship

My POV No offence

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