Originally posted by: archis_2013
I don't believe this. First, pls stop being rude to people and if you are truly intersted in my response, read further. If you take the stand of my way or high way, let's call it quits.
I thought yours were the reasonable response of the lot who answered my question and if I ask you back on what you wrote, are you painting my thoughts were dirty?
My question which was plain and simple. What would you say if Arjun had turned the tables on Ovi in such a scenario? Would you find it morally right or wrong?
You brought in the point of ill-treated spouse that implies Ovi was one. If I had to talk about two unknowns, why would I not say X and Y, why would I say Arjun and Ovi? When you have gone in lengths to paint Arjun as the mean guy and defend Ovi's actions which was no way related to my question, why cannot I read your reference on ill-treated spouse meant for Ovi
Let's not hide behind the semantics, let's atleast have the basic honesty in these discussions as we both are not going to gain or lose anything material..
And if I ask you back why do you think he was ill-treated by arguing and counter-arguing on who was ill-treated, you find it tit-for-tat? I am sorry, in my world, it is called as debate and if you are like the rest who are not ready to hear anyone questioning your post, we are both wasting our time, aren't we?
And on my point on sex vs love making, it was a question to you as you as you were the one who suggested what was wrong in the act as it is common for husband and wife to have sex. This much I know dear, the question was - is that right after she decided to leave him.
So, all I have done is repeating your points and debating with counter questions. pls stop taking the high grounds here.
One thing I do agree with you is indeed, what has the world come to? You would find me lamenting on the same in few of my posts.
You know what, my apologies for not answering you with more patience strictly because you chose to say that Ovi backstabbed Arjun via the deal and Arjun not mourning "Ovi's" baby makes them even.
especially because he never knew the baby...can you see why I would be shocked by your statement? This is the only part where I meant tit for tat, because you are saying Ovi hurt him so it is okay for him to hurt her back in such a horrible way.
I found those statements, shocking, why because the baby belongs to both of them and a man should mourn his dead child, no matter who the Mother is or how he feels about her. It is not about my way or the high way, but if you are going to say it is okay he did not mourn the death of his own because Ovi backstabbed him with a deal, I can't relate at all. You see what I am saying? If you think it is okay, then I don't know how to dialogue with you, because we will not be reasoning on the same level.
I answered your question about Arjun twice. What I am saying is that if Arjun was in Ovi's position I would not have a problem with him walking out, even after sex, because he was ill-treated during the marriage.
Now, what you are not understanding from my point of view, is that I am justifying the action as right, if you are ill-treated you have all rights to leave.
However, you cannot ask me such a question when you have already concluded that Arjun was ill-treated and I have concluded that Ovi was the one ill-treated. So, you see the inequality in our beliefs so we cannot arrive at an agreement because we both have a different perception of the situation.
In My Point of View.
Arjun was ill-treated by Purvi and Purvi only by using his love for her against him for her Mother. It was her perception that this choice was right, it was her perception that Arjun and Ovi should marry, because Ovi never mentioned marriage, she only said give me back my Arjun. If Purvi had even gone ahead with this so-called deal, by just not marrying Arjun, and let him decide what to do after, then life would more than likely have been different for everyone involved.
Yes, Ovi should not have tried to get back Arjun in such a way, for her own self-respect.
No one put a gun to Arjun's head to marry Ovi, Arjun went ahead any ways, whether or not he knew about the deal at first. Purvi's statement to him was an indirect admission of part of the reason why he should marry Ovi.
So, how did Ovi really ill-treat Arjun? She certainly did not ill-treat him during the marriage either.
Ovi left because she realised she will never be completely loved only by Arjun. that Purvi is who he loves. Pari's existence was like a pinch for her to wake up.
She is leaving with her bags, her Father was taking her away, Arjun pleaded, even went as far as to say Pari was given back to Purvi. Ovi still in love listens to all his pleas, and she had a moment of weakness, she wanted sometime with him, maybe to see if there was some hope, who knows, we don't know. The only thing we know is that she left after and went on a plane to find herself, leaving a video. The video was the most honest thing done by any of the characters in this show. Ovi spoke her heart, she was honest in her Video and no one can take that away. It is never too late to be honest and humble. Arjun is now free to do what he wants.
If Purvi was so wonderful to him and loved him so much, then here is her chance to go back to him.
Arjun and Purvi did not break up because of Ovi, it is the weakness of their love that broke them up.Purvi buckled under pressure. she made decisions for Archana, Archana is an adult she can make her own decisions.
So this is my view on why I believe Arjun was not ill-treated by Ovi only by Purvi.
Therefore, I cannot answer your question about Arjun being in Ovi's place because now I understand what you were really trying to infer and make me answer to.
I also said that yes, nothing is wrong with her having sex with him then moving on or taking a break, because married couples always go through such things. they have fights and sex comes into play and they still go ahead and break-up because they still cannot get over the situation.
If you are asking me if Ovi did it on purpose to hurt Arjun (premeditated), no that would have been the last thing on her mind, because he was the one who instigated it, she only went along with it.
I know as a woman, in love with a man, you can become weak for a moment and do things that are not premeditated but only swept by emotions. I just figured you would have understood that, so I was puzzled by your constant reference to the sex/lovemaking between the married couple, whether they broke up after that or not. Plus that moment of weakness cant be wrong because they are married.
Well, I hope I have answered your questions this time and Dear don't feel bad about my impatience previously.
Edited by hillydee - 12 years ago
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