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Winzy

@nicegirl_good

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Posted: 12 years ago

#51

I don't believe in marriage
But I don't believe in pre marital sex either
If you are preaching about values , sanskaars etc
Pre marital sex is not acceptable
No matter which part of the world you are from

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@Naysayer

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Posted: 12 years ago

#52

@archis_2013

Awesome 😆...Arjun would have been called unprintable names by now...btw, wasn't Purvi dissed for ditching Arjun after sleeping with him.. I vaguely remember her being accused of using him for sex even...although, .at that point, she did not even know she was going to ditch him...but well, Arjun and Purvi did it outside of marriage...and that is a cardinal sin to beat all sins...!

Edited by sharadrocks - 12 years ago

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Winzy

@nicegirl_good

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Posted: 12 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: archis_2013
Let me ask you this question -

If the tables were turned, if it was Arjun who had decided to leave Ovi, if it was Arjun who, with that knowledge sleeps with Ovi, if it was Arjun who left the video message for Ovi the next morning that he was sorry for whatever issues he had caused in Ovi's life, he wanted to establish his identity,he knew her heart wasn't his but decided to spend special moments with Ovi for the last time and that she is free to go and do what she wants to-

Would you call Arjun a cad or would you applaud Arjun?

And pls remember Ovi is Arjun's legal wife and if the outcome of the night results in a child, it is a legitimate child too.

Is Arjun morally right or wrong?

I wouldn't say anything if he LOVED her, and left her because she loved someone else after sleeping with her
I don't know about others
But if Arjun genuinely loved Ovi and left her for HER and Himself
Realizing she loves someone else I would rather applaud him

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pallavi25

@pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: archis_2013
Let me ask you this question -

If the tables were turned, if it was Arjun who had decided to leave Ovi, if it was Arjun who, with that knowledge sleeps with Ovi, if it was Arjun who left the video message for Ovi the next morning that he was sorry for whatever issues he had caused in Ovi's life, he wanted to establish his identity, he knew her heart wasn't his but decided to spend special moments with Ovi for the last time and that she is free to go and do what she wants to-

Would you call Arjun a cad or would you applaud Arjun?

And pls remember Ovi is Arjun's legal wife and if the outcome of the night results in a child, it is a legitimate child too.

Is Arjun morally right or wrong?

👏👏 Good question, Vasu!

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pallavi25

@pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird

I wouldn't say anything if he LOVED her, and left her because she loved someone else after sleeping with her
I don't know about others
But if Arjun genuinely loved Ovi and left her for HER and Himself
Realizing she loves someone else I would rather applaud him

You left out the sex part...what if he had sex with her even after realizing she would never love him back... and then he left the next morning? Wouldnt he have been cursed all the way to Hell and back? He would be accused of using her and dumping her...😆

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: archis_2013
Let me ask you this question -

If the tables were turned, if it was Arjun who had decided to leave Ovi, if it was Arjun who, with that knowledge sleeps with Ovi, if it was Arjun who left the video message for Ovi the next morning that he was sorry for whatever issues he had caused in Ovi's life, he wanted to establish his identity, he knew her heart wasn't his but decided to spend special moments with Ovi for the last time and that she is free to go and do what she wants to-

Would you call Arjun a cad or would you applaud Arjun?

And pls remember Ovi is Arjun's legal wife and if the outcome of the night results in a child, it is a legitimate child too.

Is Arjun morally right or wrong?

If Ovi treated Arjun the way he did during the marriage to her, I could never be upset with Arjun for having one more night and going off to find himself. Remember no one mentioned divorce, and even if that was to happen, I would never condemn the ill-treated spouse.

It is also hard to answer your question because, you are not understanding, that our only point is that it matters not what Ovi did before walking out after spending time with Arjun. It is justifiable because she is very hurt, besides the fact that she insisted on holding Arjun to his initial promise of marriage via a deal (where in real life Arjun would have been in big trouble with both families and probably forced to marry Ovi any ways), Arjun treated her like dirt. Now, in my Point of View, I am not impressed by any man who has to ill-treat another woman to prove how he loves another. My view of him, is that he is not a good person overall and does not deserve either women.

So, with that said, Ovi did nothing wrong. In terms of the sex, it is clear based on watching the episode, that Ovi did not even plan on having sex. Arjun unexpectedly made advances. Remember they started out in the rain, which Arjun initiated.

this is what Married couples do, they have problems and sex is always involved, even if one is going to walk out temporarily or permanently. This is how life. goes. Overall they are married, and Ovi did not have sex and walk out the door on a man who was good to her. No matter what a woman does, she does not deserve to be ill-treated by any man, and I hope to God, you don't believe that. That would mean all the leaders in the world before us would have wasted their time fighting for women's rights.

Arjun and Purvi does not matter and their sex life should not be discussed as legit, because they were not married. They could not even get counselling from a Spiritual leader, because it is not covered under relationships out of wedlock.

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Winzy

@nicegirl_good

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Posted: 12 years ago

#57

What a debate we have two people who are married had sex , not for the first time and the wife had sex KNOWING she would leave the next morning
Wow what won't people do to defend Arjun
And what won't people do to blame ovi

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springkissed

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Posted: 12 years ago

#58

Reading some of your comments, I just wanted to ask a question. So is sex out of marriage really a that big of a sin? I mean I would say it's liberal and if you are talking about indian culture, it is looked down upon. But Is it really that big of deal that it becomes a sin? I know you guys are thinking from the show's perspective because they are very morally binding conservative indian family, but in the practical world, Is it really a sin? and it's not like it was planned out, They were passionately in love, and it just happened. Blaming purvi over and over again for that one impulsive moment is really not plausible because having it before marriage is not that ground breaking, lots of people around the world do it, I'm not supporting it, but I'm just saying if it just happened one time by chance then just let it go. It's not like they did over and over again out of wedlock. And coming to ovi and arjun, I'm not going to say anything as you guys have put many great points out. :)

Edited by coolpixie - 12 years ago

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#59

@Coolpixie,

Not everything done in the world is right. We all know deep down what is wrong and right.

In the world outside of India, it is also wrong to have premarital sex. That is why in the cultures of Christianity, when they become a Christian, they turn to celibacy before marriage. Not because some countries take God out of the schools, and people are fornicating like it is something good and there are a zillion religions with confusing rules, the basis of it all, is that you must not have sex unless you are married, if you are going about life God's way.

When you have premarital sex is like you are saying "You know what God, who cares what you think, I am just going to go ahead and do what I want without your blessings." Not to mention God may take a long time before he helps you out after your premarital sex decision, when you are in trouble..why? You have to learn the hard way.

Purvi is criticised not because she felt she was in love or Arjun loved her and not Ovi. She is criticised because yes she was wrong to have premarital sex, compounded by the fact that she judge Punni (because she felt the married man aspect was worse) not realising that premarital sex is premarital it matters not with whom and how, it is what it is, and dared to pretend to be chaste and cannot do such things. She had a lot of talk and could not walk the walk.

For me the addition to that was her after doing the deed, put that aside for what cause? Which one did she think would be worse for Archana? The disgrace of an illegitimate child or Ovi being upset with Archana for a few months? Even Ovi, would have backed off if she knew they had sex worse had a baby.

Yes some marriages may not have love, because some people don't involve God in choosing a mate or in their marital decisions, but choosing to have sex in a committed relationship with the blessings of God is the right way. So, at the end of the day, even if your marriage does not work out and you may have to divorce, you can always take comfort in the fact that you did try to live the right way and you can answer to that before God.

Please dont feel like I am preaching to you. This is just general knowledge.

Edited by hillydee - 12 years ago

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Priya

@Rhapsody

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Posted: 12 years ago

#60

hillydee- premarital sex really is the norm in Western countries (at least here in the US, where I'm from). There's a show called Girls, it's an HBO show, and perhaps you should check it out to get a sense of how entrenched sex is in our public dialogue; so much so that it becomes a narrative device for the show itself.

(obviously viewer discretion advised on this one)

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