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Posted: 4 years ago
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Usually I post my reaction to each epi in the discussion thread but I think yesterday's epi deserves a post of its own. The reason is that I have been waiting for both the main leads to go up a notch on their performance because I felt they both have that potential but the screenplay wasn't letting them explore it much. Even the first few emotional scenes of Sai pining for his mother was somewhere unconvincing for me. I could tell it was an act and didn't make me feel for RR as a character. But yesterday was different from both actors. I had problems with Pallu's character arc during the last few episodes where some natural compromises were made to the episodes. But I am glad that things are back on track from the characterization perspective for ML and FL of this show.


Pallu's reaction for the last few episodes for being accused of promiscuity vs. allegedly cheating her way to the top shows what she places value on. If i was in her place, when someone accused me of "gulcharre udaoyoing" at RR house when her daughter was intoxicated or when she accused me of "spending the night" and getting paid for it, Sulo would no longer be alive. But Pallu barely tries to clarify herself to Sulo and when Kaka tells her its not worth it she drops the topic. When she tries to explain herself to an upset Tina, she doesn't go about denying the affair but tries to instead establish that she didn't cheat and ofcourse she would have not let it happen if she was aware. When she storms into RR's house confronts him, she doesn't get emotional about her maligned character in the name of an non-existing affair but instead is upset that due to his actions she is seen as an unfair cheater and as someone who took someone else's deserved opportunity. I love that this is her focus and not on the gossip mongers. They don't get to her emotionally, its merely a disappointment she feels at the world at large which she has already written off because she feels secure that her family (namely Aai, Baba, Nihil, Mansi, Kaka) are there for her and understand her. So the opinions of others rarely phase her. But she cannot live with being seen a cheater.


The crux of her argument with RR (which btw was an amazing confrontation) was that while RR will use any means to get what he wants (shy of hurting innocent folks...which she doesn't know fully yet)...she will only use the textbook version of right and wrong to choose her path. This drew the line that they both have been them. RR is one who lives in the grey because he has matured into the ways of the world and acclimated to it to the extent that he can make his way without relying on others. Pallu on the other hand is just starting off...starry eyed and idealistic. She staunchly believes in the white and black, to some extent like RR's mother who struggles with her son's grey world. Its not easy to tow that line. Its a struggle all of us have gone through or will go through at some point in life. Neither can you fault the idealist nor can you blame the seasoned for being on different sides.


The angst RR still feels at his intensions being misunderstood however, are a reflection of how much he himself struggles with being in the grey. He so desperately wants the validation from those who hold the idealistic jhandaa high. Same way a few epis ago I felt that Pallu seeks for RR's validation of her merit. In that they are both the same.


The epi was surely a solidifying factor in the talent both actors posses but also love the characterization we have in them. Hope it stays consistent and when they do change its organic rather than a sudden shift like is usually common in these shows.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Such a detailed and accurate description of the characters👏

I also felt today sai and shivangi did amazing job.

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Your post sums up how I feel, too!

It was really refreshing that the argument Pallavi brought to Raghav dealt with factors over sentiments ... she had a point to make about honor and character which would have been totally diluted with concern about “what others think or say.” If she had approached her root of frustration from a perspective based on a fear of what people think of her - RR would have been even more brutal in his attempts to cut her resolve. It’s absolutely terrifying when someone says a person is “zero” or worthless, if she had mentioned the gossip, he would’ve added the fuel of “everyone thinks so, too” to the fire.


Personally, grey-characters are my favorite bc they’re constantly battling btwn their light and dark sides but most of the time, they’re overall good. It’s their struggle that makes them endearing.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I prefer grey characters too because they more realistic and we can connect to them better

Hope they keep raghav the way he is

raghav had a trauma in early age that must have shaken him and made him more mature and rough

He realise at young age that being ideal is not the best way to face the world s hardship and challenges

He some how reminds me of viju in agneepath

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Such a compelling post! Yesterday's episode really did draw some amazing parallels between the leads.. Like you said, eventhough one is or atleast tries to be textbook idealistic, the other one is a seasoned player who values idealism but knows how things work around here, both seek for acceptance and validation from their parents.. The explanation he gave as to why he helped her win the competition though unfair sounded practical and justified.. In her rage she also missed that he actually acknowledged her talent.. and the fact that given a fair chance she would have won the competition..his frustration at always being misunderstood when his intentions are to help the people he cares for, was quite palpable yesterday.. You gotta feel for Pallavi too.. and eventhough her outburst on Raghav was understandable.. I wish she could say something in her defense yesterday because her silence validates all the false accusations.. Kaku showing that cheque as her ''raat ki kamayi'' was way out of the line.. That was the moment I wished she said something even if she didnt feel the need to clarify any of the other stuff.. Things in her family are not the same as they used to be.. There's only so much Ayi can say in her defense when her own baba doesnt trust her anymore.. I can understand why she wouldnt want to explain everything threadbare infront of an outsider.. but her reason for not explaining herself infront of ayi baba who matter the most to her, could be because she has a guilt somewhere and also because maybe she has resigned to the fact that baba is not going to trust her on Raghav's issue no matter what she says.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Accurate.


But i do think dynamics are different a little with pallu and sulo and deshmukh fam. While she does conider them family.. at the end thry still are her husbands family so i think she walks on egg shells with them.


Thebpeople she considers FAMILY she is more her self with and i think thats whay we are seeing with her and raghav. She is normal with him.. herself. And when she is with him she can sah what she feels bindaas. But her actual family is technically not hers and she has no omr else so she also probably doesnt want to loose that.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NESRIA

I prefer grey characters too because they more realistic and we can connect to them better

Hope they keep raghav the way he is

raghav had a trauma in early age that must have shaken him and made him more mature and rough

He realise at young age that being ideal is not the best way to face the world s hardship and challenges

He some how reminds me of viju in agneepath

Even Sai mentioned that he took inspiration from Amitabh character from Agneepath... If he reminds you of that then we can say that Sai has succeeded in that

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

Usually I post my reaction to each epi in the discussion thread but I think yesterday's epi deserves a post of its own. The reason is that I have been waiting for both the main leads to go up a notch on their performance because I felt they both have that potential but the screenplay wasn't letting them explore it much. Even the first few emotional scenes of Sai pining for his mother was somewhere unconvincing for me. I could tell it was an act and didn't make me feel for RR as a character. But yesterday was different from both actors. I had problems with Pallu's character arc during the last few episodes where some natural compromises were made to the episodes. But I am glad that things are back on track from the characterization perspective for ML and FL of this show.


Pallu's reaction for the last few episodes for being accused of promiscuity vs. allegedly cheating her way to the top shows what she places value on. If i was in her place, when someone accused me of "gulcharre udaoyoing" at RR house when her daughter was intoxicated or when she accused me of "spending the night" and getting paid for it, Sulo would no longer be alive. But Pallu barely tries to clarify herself to Sulo and when Kaka tells her its not worth it she drops the topic. When she tries to explain herself to an upset Tina, she doesn't go about denying the affair but tries to instead establish that she didn't cheat and ofcourse she would have not let it happen if she was aware. When she storms into RR's house confronts him, she doesn't get emotional about her maligned character in the name of an non-existing affair but instead is upset that due to his actions she is seen as an unfair cheater and as someone who took someone else's deserved opportunity. I love that this is her focus and not on the gossip mongers. They don't get to her emotionally, its merely a disappointment she feels at the world at large which she has already written off because she feels secure that her family (namely Aai, Baba, Nihil, Mansi, Kaka) are there for her and understand her. So the opinions of others rarely phase her. But she cannot live with being seen a cheater.


The crux of her argument with RR (which btw was an amazing confrontation) was that while RR will use any means to get what he wants (shy of hurting innocent folks...which she doesn't know fully yet)...she will only use the textbook version of right and wrong to choose her path. This drew the line that they both have been them. RR is one who lives in the grey because he has matured into the ways of the world and acclimated to it to the extent that he can make his way without relying on others. Pallu on the other hand is just starting off...starry eyed and idealistic. She staunchly believes in the white and black, to some extent like RR's mother who struggles with her son's grey world. Its not easy to tow that line. Its a struggle all of us have gone through or will go through at some point in life. Neither can you fault the idealist nor can you blame the seasoned for being on different sides.


The angst RR still feels at his intensions being misunderstood however, are a reflection of how much he himself struggles with being in the grey. He so desperately wants the validation from those who hold the idealistic jhandaa high. Same way a few epis ago I felt that Pallu seeks for RR's validation of her merit. In that they are both the same.


The epi was surely a solidifying factor in the talent both actors posses but also love the characterization we have in them. Hope it stays consistent and when they do change its organic rather than a sudden shift like is usually common in these shows.


Beautifully expressed and cant express the grey that is needed as you rise up the ladder..be it in business or corporate..not everything is black and white. Pallavi being a business woman will learn it as time passes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: subbuappu

Even Sai mentioned that he took inspiration from Amitabh character from Agneepath... If he reminds you of that then we can say that Sai has succeeded in that


Situation is kinda similar too as in Agneepath where the mother wants her son to stay away from her and her daughter.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Beautiful post and I totally agree these two are very talented and need more scope to perform. They are settling into the characters now and have established a good rhythm. I was always expecting Shivangi to do well but Sai really surprised me with his growth. His emoting in those delicate scenes is improving but his comic timing is precious!

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