Sushant Singh Rajput got admitted for depression says Rumi Jaffrey - Page 10

We had a lady in the opposite flat who used to talk suicidal a lot and family were aware of it.

One day she had lunch with her sister, brother in law and husband, had a little tiff with husband so went to her room and when she didn’t come out for few hours they unlocked the door to find her hanging.

Another lady in same building who used to make rotis for family, she finished job at this house and left saying I’ll be back in the evening for help. And in the afternoon she was found hanging. Literally no one knew/knows what happened or what triggered.

If someone is suffering from depression, even with all the love, care and family just in next room they can take such extreme step.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

I was the one who spoke about his gym spottings , restaurant spottings . No i dont think mental illness is disgusting . I have never run away from the fact that he had depression. But i will reiterate i do not think had he been this ill and suicidal his family and his bff would have left him alone. It's impossible. I cannot say about Rhea and that Pithani guy but his family and his bff truly loved him. If there were signs and if the docs would have told them also , I refuse to believe they would have left him alone.

I'd like to share an anecdote. In my residency we discussed a real life case that our psychiatrist brought up as a teaching point. The question was, should we as general doctors refill antidepressants without following up regularly with pediatric patient (15 years old) if the family is asking for refills, the patient has been seen by a psychiatrist and family feels that she's doing ok.

The case was just that. A general doctor refilled an antidepressant because the 15 yo girl was started on it by the psychiatrist and just needed refills. He talked to the mother and the mother reassured the doctor that the girl as doing very well and was responding to the medication. A few days later, the girl committed suicide.

Mother sued the doctor with claims that the antidepressant prescribed increases the risk of suicide and the case went to court. Doctor's defense was that the suicide could also have been caused by worsening depression, not just the medication. But in court, the doctor still came under fire because he should have talked to the patient directly and assessed for suicidal ideation before refilling the medication. The physician should have seen the patient regularly, frequently to make sure she was responding and not just relied on family.

Moral of the lesson for us: DON'T JUST TRUST FAMILY, TALK TO THE PATIENT. If mother, father brother and all are saying patient is doing well, we still have to talk to the patient. Because sometimes they don't know. And for this this was so terrifying. Because I had refiled depression medications multiple times for young patients based on family requesting for refills and knowing that the pediatric psychiatrist had started the treatment. Teaching point for me.

Originally posted by: desigal90

I'd like to share an anecdote. In my residency we discussed a real life case that our psychiatrist brought up as a teaching point. The question was, should we as general doctors refill antidepressants without following up regularly with pediatric patient (15 years old) if the family is asking for refills, the patient has been seen by a psychiatrist and family feels that she's doing ok.

The case was just that. A general doctor refilled an antidepressant because the 15 yo girl was started on it by the psychiatrist and just needed refills. He talked to the mother and the mother reassured the doctor that the girl as doing very well and was responding to the medication. A few days later, the girl committed suicide.

Mother sued the doctor with claims that the antidepressant prescribed increases the risk of suicide and the case went to court. Doctor's defense was that the suicide could also have been caused by worsening depression, not just the medication. But in court, the doctor still came under fire because he should have talked to the patient directly and assessed for suicidal ideation before refilling the medication. The physician should have seen the patient regularly, frequently to make sure she was responding and not just relied on family.

More of the lesson for us: DON'T JUST TRUST FAMILY, TALK TO THE PATIENT. If mother, father brother and all are saying patient is doing well, we still have to talk to the patient. Because sometimes they don't know. And for this this was so terrifying. Because I had refiled depression medications multiple times for young patients based on family requesting for refills and knowing that the pediatric psychiatrist had started the treatment. Teaching point for me.

My thought exactly! Sometimes family is the least reliable source when it comes to ones life as they are either kept in the dark or are in denial.

Sometimes it's also a way to cope wit the guilt of not having seen anything.

It's really sad and I think the fact that the case got so much coverage doesn't help either. I hope they'll be able to find peace.

Also, in the first reports wasn't it said his sister stayed with him or something like that because he was mentally unwell ?

Originally posted by: desigal90

I'd like to share an anecdote. In my residency we discussed a real life case that our psychiatrist brought up as a teaching point. The question was, should we as general doctors refill antidepressants without following up regularly with pediatric patient (15 years old) if the family is asking for refills, the patient has been seen by a psychiatrist and family feels that she's doing ok.

The case was just that. A general doctor refilled an antidepressant because the 15 yo girl was started on it by the psychiatrist and just needed refills. He talked to the mother and the mother reassured the doctor that the girl as doing very well and was responding to the medication. A few days later, the girl committed suicide.

Mother sued the doctor with claims that the antidepressant prescribed increases the risk of suicide and the case went to court. Doctor's defense was that the suicide could also have been caused by worsening depression, not just the medication. But in court, the doctor still came under fire because he should have talked to the patient directly and assessed for suicidal ideation before refilling the medication. The physician should have seen the patient regularly, frequently to make sure she was responding and not just relied on family.

More of the lesson for us: DON'T JUST TRUST FAMILY, TALK TO THE PATIENT. If mother, father brother and all are saying patient is doing well, we still have to talk to the patient. Because sometimes they don't know. And for this this was so terrifying. Because I had refiled depression medications multiple times for young patients based on family requesting for refills and knowing that the pediatric psychiatrist had started the treatment. Teaching point for me.

Each and every case is different.

Let's see what the Mumbai Police reveals about the doctors . What they said. What the family was told. Lets see.

^^ Exactly. The family could be staying with them and they will still end their lives if they want to.

Even the tiniest of fight or negative feeling can trigger them to take such extreme step.

The only time suicide will turn in to murder is if police smells foul play, abetment to suicide or medical negligence. Let’s just wait to see where the case is going with dignity instead of blaming.

Imagine if at the end it turns out to be just depression, then at the end as a nation/society we’ve lost the opportunity to educate people about depression and mental illness because we were so busy in multiple theories.

I hope and pray that the family and his close friends gets a closure, their lives changed completely. As fans we will move on one day.

Originally posted by: K.Ahm

^^ Exactly. The family could be staying with them and they will still end their lives if they want to.

Even the tiniest of fight or negative feeling can trigger them to take such extreme step.

The only time suicide will turn in to murder is if police smells foul play, abetment to suicide or medical negligence. Let’s just wait to see where the case is going with dignity instead of blaming.

Imagine if at the end it turns out to be just depression, then at the end as a nation/society we’ve lost the opportunity to educate people about depression and mental illness because we were so busy in multiple theories.

I hope and pray that the family and his close friends gets a closure, their lives changed completely. As fans we will move on one day.

It was always depression . Doesn't take away from the fact that there were factors which made it worse . One being the negativity and toxicity he faced in the professional space needs to be spoken more. I wish the journalists and others who were party to this smear campaigning against him could be dragged to jail . Too wishful thinking that would be . Wishful thinking if vultures like Mahesh , Mukesh Bhatt could be taken to task for their damning sensationalist medical judgement on him.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

It was always depression . Doesn't take away from the fact that there were factors which made it worse . One being the negativity and toxicity he faced in the professional space needs to be spoken more. I wish the journalists and others who were party to this smear campaigning against him could be dragged to jail . Too wishful thinking that would be . Wishful thinking if vultures like Mahesh , Mukesh Bhatt could be taken to task for their damning sensationalist medical judgement on him.

Sorry didn’t phrase it right.

I mean death due to depression but no external theory like murder etc


BW mafia has to be called out and glad it’s happening.

The journalists and self appointed doctors must be sued by SSRs family I believe.

Originally posted by: Sashay01

So glad to know you made it out okay. It is not easy. Someone close to me went through a similar phase and yes, from what I understood certain people can be genetically predisposed to depression. Obviously, environment matters too. But a tendency of even mild depression or anxiety means we always have to be mindful of our thoughts and be very conscious of our inner dialogue.

The stigma is real, unfortunately. Kudos to you for handling it so well and thank you for sharing!

Depression is three four type

One is genetic : Like you see grandparent committed suicide than son and grandchild

One is because of lack of hormones, hormone imbalance: this becomes fine with taking tablets and exercise etc

Third is because of environment: How family treat you, how colleagues treat you, how neighbours treat you. This is toughest kind of depression because neighbourhood you can change, work place you can change but how to change family?

Bipolar disorder: Can be passed on from family or get it later. Age of getting is usually 25 -30 years.

He becomes questionable after the news about rhea

Was Sushant threatened to do this romw com as well !

Originally posted by: Sashay01

See what I mean? People are seeing conspiracy theory in just accepting that he had depression!!! NOBODY is saying that he got murdered for sure except for the most paranoid people obsessed with the underworld!! NEWSFLASH- corporates have held big money in the industry since 2010 and that influence is just growing and growing and the underworld has been on the wane ever since then. They're a shadow of themselves so please stop trying to say BS things about the police. i didnt hear anyone say that the police was corrupt under the previous Maha govt till 2019? Phir kya hua? Were those ministers involved too? Then what is your logic behind trusting the CBI, which would also be reporting to the center, which is the same political umbrella as the previous Maha govt? You trust them all of a sudden?

I know that some "interested parties" WANT to build the case in a certain direction and I have seen it on this forum as well so dont try to pretend otherwise. And I'll tell you what that case is - pick either SRK or Salman, say they had an imaginary and non documented grudge against SSR and that Dawood, their best buddy killed SSR as a "favour". This ridiculous theory is at the heart of it all!!! With no proof but because you BELIEVE it to be true.

Kabhi abetment ho jaata hai, kabhi murder by girlfriend Rhea, kabhi Bhatts, kabhi KJO sabotaging his own movie and now of course ISI or underworld and please dont forget to link it to Salman or SRK!!!!

WHY should ANYONE be vociferous about a CBI enquiry? Why should the Khans or the Kapoors, if SSR's own parents arent? Some of you are not even living in reality anymore because of your blind hatred.

Just let this brilliant man go in peace and use your prejudices for something else.

Get lost. Patna police is investigating now. Try something else and bug off.