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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: neesha19

Yes Abhay, yesterdays episode was too good.. though no romantic scenes were there it was very fast moving episode. many things happened. Salims concern for Jodha was good but I hated the fact that he went first to Rukiaya and not to Jodha. Hamida will force Jodha to change her religion. Jo will be in a dilemma but will succumb to Hamida's wish. But if she changes her religion it will be a defeat for Jalal . I liked the way Jalal spoke to HB, He was so firm but yet showed his respect to her but did not bow to her wishes. That is the level of love and respect we wish to see between Jodha and Salim as well.

And once it was good to see Jalal using his brains and following the maid to reach the real culprit. All in all lot happened and lot of drama to be expected. Yesterday no SANAR scenes was another good thing.

One more thing came to my mind about Rukaiya begum. She may try to take everything from Jo.. whatever Jo likes..she tries to take that.. but one thing she can never take from Jo is Jalal's "Dil". Whatever she may do she will never get it.. Thats the only thing that is precious for Jo..

And I hope Salim will also realise one day about Rukaiyas intentions like Jalal realised about Maham.




Neesha,

Episode was, no doubt, a good one. Reviews from all fans have been great on this thread till now. BTW, it is time, Salim should be made aware of the plans of his "Ammi Jaan Ruqs" asap, because only after that can the relation of Salim stabilize with his parents.


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek




Charu,
Very Nice summary. :D

Though, i am picking up the portion where you mentioned Salim.
Don't you think, CV's will NOT show Salim revolting against Akbar.
And, neither will Akbar come to the stage of punishing Anar.

I feel, Anar will "herself" go away from Salim's life and Salim will miss her simply for some time and later be fine. I don't think there would be an open revolt of Salim. Actually, the image of Akbar is such in the show, he can not shown punishing Anar. What you think ?



Thank you Abhay.

I completely echo your thoughts about Anarkali. Having hurt Salim by anointing Murad as Sha-i-Shah, I don't think Jalal will take extreme steps to keep Anarkali away from him. I foresee Jodha's influence in Anarkali distancing herself from Salim.

Salim may try meeting Anarkali again, this news will reach Akbar via Murad or the security staff. Akbar may pose harsher restrictions on their interactions. Before the lost and confused Salim tries anything stupid, Anarkali at the advise of Jodha may the leave the mahal on her own. So far Anarkali's character has shown positive traits only, I see her sacrificing her love for Maan Bai. A shattered Salim will drown himself in 'afeem'.

Rukaiyya will again act goody goody towards Salim, oozing with fake love and understanding making best use of the delicate situation, to poison him against Jalal/Jodha, therefore continuing to manipulate Salim emotionally and also keep the equation between parents and child tension filled.

Even though I don't imagine Akbar's direct involvement in Salim's unhappiness, I still see only a strained relationship between them. I hope to see an improvement in the equation between Jodha and Salim. However this can never happen with Rukaiyya in the picture. It appears as if the character of Rukaiyya has been retained only to mess up Salim's thought process. I do not see her presence as substantial to the progress of the plot at all. I wish her duplicity is exposed and Jalal sends her far away from Agra.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: neesha19

One more doubt. Abhay.. I had read somewhere that When Jodha gave birth to Salim.. before she was officially given Marium-Zamani title.. she had to convert to Islam.. Is that true? She converted to Islam and if you some images of MUZ with Akbar which are there on the net..Jodha is wearing Mughal clothes and not rajasthani attire.. I also had one more doubt that is it because she converted to Islam... whenever she visited Amer after that she was not treated properly.? Radhika, ABhay, please give your inputs. Anyone who has knowledge about this can write. These are just doubts..I am not so sure of this.




Neesha,

@Bold...This was old wikipedia page of MUZ. It said that after birth to Salim she got converted and after that she received MUZ title. Acc to that, she got MUZ title after conversion, though that was given after birth of Salim.

And about ill-treatment in Amer, i have answered this SO many times. :(
Ok. Writing one more time.

It was NOT her OWN family who insulted her.
If that was the case, they would have never got Man Bai married to Salim.

When she visited Amer at the death of her brother, that time, it is alleged, some other rulers who were present on the mourning had taunted her. This was also mentioned nicely in an old history thread of mine by a member in details.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: najma123

Jodha never converted right?



Najma,
You know the customs more than me. If you ask me, i'd say, she did not follow Islam.

Have planned to write a post on this.
Religion those days was something different than the form it has taken these days.
I will inform you when i make that post. :)

BTW, Are you watching JA, again ?


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

back after two days of outing, and reading abt episode updates.. seems i missed two interesting episodes...

so... Abhay , i think, scared by threats from Shah E Iran, HB will ask Jo to convert and will even try to use her title of MM to make Jalal agree... but instead of agreeing her, Jalal might threaten to leave the throne and even Agra along with Jo (naturally she will go with him) and that he might even threaten to break all relations with everybody except Jo, as nobody cares for Shehenshah's POV or his orders or decision...and this might put HB and everybody else to choose btw Jalal and his decision, and relationships with Shah E Iran...

this is what i feel can be the story... coz Jalal's one threat of leaving the throne and breaking all relationships, is definitely enough to bring everybody back on ground and accept Jalal's wishes...

but this is just my theory... and i think like this CVs will also get max opportunity for big NR full of melodrama, just like they love to show...

what do u think?



Diksha,
Yes you missed two good episodes. Watch them, when you get time. ;D

Coming to your theory, it is possible. But, personally, this time, i want Jalal not to threaten, but to simply disagree with HB. He is the ruler, and i think his voice is counted as superior among all, no matter "HB or MM" agree or disagree.

But, before that, we have to brace up with today's episode where Salim and Murad were fighting. :-P

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



When they start showing politics then they go too much overboard and show some exagerrated NR. :-P And, on the other hand we keep getting dose of 'fancy' VK's.

That marriage issue is controversial.
I will send you a PM, later. :)



Aah! Exaggerated NR, we all know about that war of Akbar's where he was captured and beaten brutally by Abul Mali! One our worst Poltical NR's ever!

These CV's and their obsession with 'evil' women behind Jalals life! 😆

Please do! I would love to hear more about it! :)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Charu.S


Thank you Abhay.

I completely echo your thoughts about Anarkali. Having hurt Salim by anointing Murad as Sha-i-Shah, I don't think Jalal will take extreme steps to keep Anarkali away from him. I foresee Jodha's influence in Anarkali distancing herself from Salim.

Salim may try meeting Anarkali again, this news will reach Akbar via Murad or the security staff. Akbar may pose harsher restrictions on their interactions. Before the lost and confused Salim tries anything stupid, Anarkali at the advise of Jodha may the leave the mahal on her own. So far Anarkali's character has shown positive traits only, I see her sacrificing her love for Maan Bai. A shattered Salim will drown himself in 'afeem'.

Rukaiyya will again act goody goody towards Salim, oozing with fake love and understanding making best use of the delicate situation, to poison him against Jalal/Jodha, therefore continuing to manipulate Salim emotionally and also keep the equation between parents and child tension filled.

Even though I don't imagine Akbar's direct involvement in Salim's unhappiness, I still see only a strained relationship between them. I hope to see an improvement in the equation between Jodha and Salim. However this can never happen with Rukaiyya in the picture. It appears as if the character of Rukaiyya has been retained only to mess up Salim's thought process. I do not see her presence as substantial to the progress of the plot at all. I wish her duplicity is exposed and Jalal sends her far away from Agra.




Charu,
You have recently posted this point on latest thread also. Somehow, if Salim comes to know that his mother is going to convert , for his sake, it is possible, his thinking might change regarding his mother. It is possible that he might be the one, who would interfere in the conversion process, instead of Ruqs or Jalal.

But, i would like to see, Jodha standing upto the ideals of Jalal only, as he asked her in the last episode.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Najma,
You know the customs more than me. If you ask me, i'd say, she did not follow Islam.

Have planned to write a post on this.
Religion those days was something different than the form it has taken these days.
I will inform you when i make that post. :)

BTW, Are you watching JA, again ?


Hey Abhay... Nope. I am not... I have lost interest in JA actually. I casually came to this Forum, I still have stories going on.. xD Saw WU. And, promos keep airing. I know religion can be a very tricky issue... Will they show her converting? That would just be so sad... :/ Wait, I remember reading in your posts that Akbar used to have a temple next to the court room or something. And someone said, she had to convert for the title. I'll wait for your post anyways. Tell me when you do. But, personally, I don't think MM can have the authority to force MUZ to convert IF the Emperor is against it. But then, I believe, no one can force anybody to do anything. So. LOL. Anyways, thanks for clearing!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi Everyone
Great discussion happened here that I missed :(


Charu: I hope your doggie is fine now! I love dogs and cats and it's so sweet that you have 2 of them 😊

Harshu: It's ok - even I am not able to like posts when i read from mobile. Your post really meant a lot! 😊 And I too enjoy reading your views :)

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