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Posted: 10 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: history_geek



Sayeri,
Hit the PM button visible below all of my posts. :)
And then a new window will open. Enter some subject of the message.
And, enter your message in the given space. And send it.

PS : You can call me by my name only. Dont address as Da. Its embarassing for me to accept so much respect. There are many members senior to me here, though i also address most of them, by their names only.. :)

Will send you a pm soon, I think some app is disturbing the opening of that site. And lol ok I will call you Abhay, I am actually habituated to calling elders da and di, its a must in bengal, people get very angry if younger people call them by names only.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Yeah, it was a terrific episode. Today I enjoyed watching the only 2 shows I watch these days :)

1. Salima Begum spoiled the party for me today. Oh, why did she have to stop Ruq? 😭 The poor maid - no one spared her a thought. Everyone was busy comforting Ruq... Hamida Banu didn't even bother to meet Jodha and inquire about her well-being, though she rushed to see Ruq. Salim too first went to Ruq ammijaan and then came to Jodha.

I satisfied myself by thinking that he came at least now.

I remember the earlier scenes of Hamida Banu and Jalal. Hamida always greeted Jalal with a kiss on the forehead. I wonder why Jodha and Salim don't meet like a typical mother-son.

This constant rattle of MEH and SS for his parents is so irritating with regard to Salim's dialogs. 😡 When Jalal mentioned he was glad that Salim was with his mother, he replied something like it was his duty as a prince. !! Sheesh!!!

3. How come so many of Jalal's men couldn't catch the maid who brought the shawl, but the hawk-eyed Salima Begum could just look and catch sight of her, scurrying away??

It was indeed a treat and a shock too to watch Jalal actually PUNISH someone...And that too, with so much feeling /passion...


4. Salim was a changed man today. Sometimes I seriously think this Salim has multiple personality disorder. 😆

8. I mentioned this in yesterday's thread also. Why is Hamida suddenly worried about maintaining relations with the Shah?

She was initially against Jodha's conversion and asked Jalal to decide course of events. She didn't say anything when Sheikh Mubarak was reminding Jalal about the Shah's favors to the Mughals. She was quite approving when Salim announced in DEK that Akbar should take decision on his own and not be dictated to by the Shah.

Abhay, can MM go against the decision of the emperor?

10. Khudabanda??!! He was a weak and ineffective ruler. Here he is strong and "independent." At least I know his name now 😆

11. Yes, I also feel (in fact, earlier also I felt) that Hamida really wants Jodha to convert this time. But the CVs have introduced this most inconsistently. If they wanted this, then right from the beginning of the track, they should have shown Hamida siding with the Shah.

Precap: that's it! This scene should have been avoided. The brothers were fighting like roadside ruffians today...

Abhay, yeah, you are right - today's episode was something we could sink our teeth into - it had a great deal of substance and the story is moving well despite the NR. Let's hope this continues . till end of track.😊


Brilliant post Radhikadi. I wanted ruku to wear that shwal😭. I so wish CVS had shown salim loving his parents, I always wanted to cherish akdha with Sal;im, the sign of their love. Cvs have mercilessly sacrificed the bond between parents and the son grnated to them after so many struggles.Jalal was superb, the way he was slowly walking behind khwaja moin when he was escaping, and the way he killed him, it proved he can never endure someone victimizing Jodha. Liked the chess scene, this couple shows a beautiful relation of trust and comfort, which is something very inspirational. Hamida's stand is very weird I mean if the father had done favours to humayun doesnt mean the son cant dictate upon Jalal, as the mariam makani she should not let some other dynasty control what will happen in her kingdom, she very well understands if Malika e hind converts, the position of hindu subjects in the kingdom will be troubled, non hindu subjects will feel they are superior to the hindu subjects and shahenshah has granted islam as the main religeon of the kingdom.Liked the way Jalal refused her, with respect. Liked his principles and his firmness in sticking to them
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Posted: 10 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Charu.S


Thank you Radhika.

Yes, my youngest child, is fine. His left paw is in a 'cast', he is wearing an Elizabethan collar,( to prevent him from licking the affected area and also ripping up the cast ) that he despises. He looks sad, confused and cute.

Today's episode stood out from all the episodes since Monday. Applying good dramatization, I wish the Creatives show the relations between Salim and Jodha improving. The impediment in the form of Rukaiyya, needs to be eliminated.

aww charudi I loved the way you called you dog as your youngest child, I love animals, specially dogs, and really admire people who love them. hope the little one is fine soon😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Sayeri

Yes, I liked the way Khannum stood up for her father's principles at the cost of her own marriage. 👏 Those days, it was tough for royalty to find suitable grooms for a princess. Though Hamida Banu was unnerved by the breakup of the alliance, Khannum was unwavering in her support to her father.

Her brothers should learn from her how to respect and support parents.

The 1570s and 1580s were so FULL of events in Akbar's life. There is so much to show and all the CVs can think of is a vishkanya. Fine, such girls were sent to attack Akbar but we have already been there earlier. Why repeat the same again as if there was a dearth of plots? 😕

Yes in comparison to sons I like Jala's daughters, be it the cute aram banu, or the respectful khanum, or the sweet shakrunnisa who is not shown often but is not troublesome. I reallly dont like this vishkanya or churail type of track, why cant they show some male assasain attacking jalal like in the movie, it would be much more enjoyble
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Posted: 10 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0



Abhay and Harshu

Actually whatever happened in history, the CVs can't show conversion of Jodha because that would mean Jalal accepting "defeat" and "bowing down" to Shah-i-Iran.

The CVs like to show that everything is going against Jalal (andJodha) and they literally claw their way back from the brink of annihilation for maximum impact. We saw this in the God track also where Jalal was hated a lot by the people and he had to go to great lengths (even get whipped) to get his authority over people back. The same tactic is being used again.

Everyone will want Jodha to convert for various reasons. The awaam will turn against Jalal and Jodha. Then in the very end, Jalal will be shown to emerge victorious with a rousing speech.

Since the CVs are not shying away from the religious angle, I wish they had had the courage to show a passing reference at least to Ibadat Khana, religious discussions with people of various faiths etc.

May be it can be shown as part of NR that in order to put down the Shah-i-Iran, Akbar started the haj pilgrimage from Surat via the Arabian Sea and sent royal women on the first pilgrimage by sea.



hiii radhika, m luving ur update analysis a lot u write so apt abt d episodes I really njoy reading dm bt unfortunlty my like button is v unpredictable most of d times it wrks bt sumtimes it doesn't and so it alwlyz happns dat wen I click like on ur post it doesn't gt liked and I m left feeling guilty ki yaar lik nahi hua...so I tght of replying u dat I really luv ur post its jst d button is bhaving v odd wid me 😆 k... cumin bk 2 d epi ya I agree wid u radhika dat watevr may b happnd in histry bt cvs cnt show jodha converting in 2 islam... cz it wil goes angst jalal's promise his stand on d tolerance of all religions and allowing ppl in his sultanate 2 follw der own religion widout forcing ny1 2 convert in 2 islam...dats wat evn he hd xplaind 2 jodha dat iran wants 2 follw daru-islam and jalal wants 2 follw daru-sula... I hope I hav said it rite dese 2 wrds 😆 so I m damn sure jalal wil by ny case b firm on his stand and wil support jodha and I thnk evn he wil nt accept hamida's decision of jodha's conversn...cz if jodha gts convertd dn I feel der wil b another revolt angst jalal its like u r nt true 2 ur own stance wat u said or follwd...nywyz I m v mch intested in knwing hw dis track wil end...moreover it shold b a propr ending cz if u see cvz creativity wen it cums 2 climax its jst lik sitting on a bullet train u dnt knw wat happnd and evrythng is goody goody...happy endin...u said abt ibadat khana bt 1st place fatehpur sikri shold xist whch nevr xisted in d show...do ibadat khana wil b a doubtful place bt I hope dey shold atlest mention abt it...if propr dramatization and moreover dialogs are properly givn dn I thnk d religious discussions in ibadat khana wil b a treat 2 watch...bt I doubt our cvz creativity...so xpecting nythng and dn falling flat on our faces wuld b bad for us... 😆... I thnk dis ws enuf srry I wont bore u more 😆 I cnt bliev I wrote such a big reply... 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#86
back after two days of outing, and reading abt episode updates.. seems i missed two interesting episodes...

so... Abhay , i think, scared by threats from Shah E Iran, HB will ask Jo to convert and will even try to use her title of MM to make Jalal agree... but instead of agreeing her, Jalal might threaten to leave the throne and even Agra along with Jo (naturally she will go with him) and that he might even threaten to break all relations with everybody except Jo, as nobody cares for Shehenshah's POV or his orders or decision...and this might put HB and everybody else to choose btw Jalal and his decision, and relationships with Shah E Iran...

this is what i feel can be the story... coz Jalal's one threat of leaving the throne and breaking all relationships, is definitely enough to bring everybody back on ground and accept Jalal's wishes...

but this is just my theory... and i think like this CVs will also get max opportunity for big NR full of melodrama, just like they love to show...

what do u think?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Yeah, it was a terrific episode. Today I enjoyed watching the only 2 shows I watch these days :)

1. Salima Begum spoiled the party for me today.
Radhika, Salima begum, not heard, the song, Party to Banti hee😉😆so she spoiled party.
Oh, why did she have to stop Ruq? 😭 The poor maid - no one spared her a thought. Everyone was busy comforting Ruq... Hamida Banu didn't even bother to meet Jodha and inquire about her well-being, though she rushed to see Ruq. Salim too first went to Ruq ammijaan and then came to Jodha.

isse kahete hee Ruk kaa, Vazood,😆Ruk Ammijann not avoided,jo bhee hoo jye,😆

I satisfied myself by thinking that he came at least now.

Aur poor Audience Kar bhee kya sakte hee.😆

I remember the earlier scenes of Hamida Banu and Jalal. Hamida always greeted Jalal with a kiss on the forehead. I wonder why Jodha and Salim don't meet like a typical mother-son.

SAlim has Elergy problem its calls parents Elergy,😡
This constant rattle of MEH and SS for his parents is so irritating with regard to Salim's dialogs. 😡 When Jalal mentioned he was glad that Salim was with his mother, he replied something like it was his duty as a prince. !! Sheesh!!!

Salim has too much igo problem, His heart came him, But satisfing own igo,he replied his duty,Salim you need a Tight class.Because Mom hearts feels pain when child creats these type of stupidness.



3. How come so many of Jalal's men couldn't catch the maid who brought the shawl, but the hawk-eyed Salima Begum could just look and catch sight of her, scurrying away??

Yee salima begum, yaa CV kee Almonds Khanne kaa result hee.😆



It was indeed a treat and a shock too to watch Jalal actually PUNISH someone...And that too, with so much feeling /passion...

liked, After limit crossing, he decides tight punishment, i think he thinks forgiven period stops here😆so he decides aaapka samay khatm hota hee bas😆


4. Salim was a changed man today. Sometimes I seriously think this Salim has multiple personality disorder. 😆


Radhika you right thinks problem is this his parents not thinks this
s

8. I mentioned this in yesterday's thread also. Why is Hamida suddenly worried about maintaining relations with the Shah?

i think, HB is where standing, she is feeling grateful, for shah Iran good deeds, But Jalal is thiniking, outerly +broadely, +his own dignity +words this time, will effect, if he will not take right decesion this time.

She was initially against Jodha's conversion and asked Jalal to decide course of events. She didn't say anything when Sheikh Mubarak was reminding Jalal about the Shah's favors to the Mughals. She was quite approving when Salim announced in DEK that Akbar should take decision on his own and not be dictated to by the Shah.

Abhay, can MM go against the decision of the emperor?

10. Khudabanda??!! He was a weak and ineffective ruler. Here he is strong and "independent." At least I know his name now 😆

11. Yes, I also feel (in fact, earlier also I felt) that Hamida really wants Jodha to convert this time. But the CVs have introduced this most inconsistently. If they wanted this, then right from the beginning of the track, they should have shown Hamida siding with the Shah.

Precap: that's it! This scene should have been avoided. The brothers were fighting like roadside ruffians today...

Abhay, yeah, you are right - today's episode was something we could sink our teeth into - it had a great deal of substance and the story is moving well despite the NR. Let's hope this continues . till end of track.😊



Radhika today i wrote some light, because to much headache,

One more thing, about Ruk;;;;;;;;Ruk Funda, AAG lage Basti meem Humm too Apni Masti mee,

Bass Jodha begum, kisi bhee tarh see Down hoo jaye.Vese Brain naa hoo too koi Problem hee Nahi hee, 😆 Konikee Sari problem too Brain see hee Hoti hee😉, My Mother says, somepeople this earth You sacrificed your Everyblood drop, then will say, AApnee kya kiya Hamare liye, Ruk is one of them.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Yeah, it was a terrific episode. Today I enjoyed watching the only 2 shows I watch these days :)

1. Salima Begum spoiled the party for me today. Oh, why did she have to stop Ruq? 😭 The poor maid - no one spared her a thought. Everyone was busy comforting Ruq... Hamida Banu didn't even bother to meet Jodha and inquire about her well-being, though she rushed to see Ruq. Salim too first went to Ruq ammijaan and then came to Jodha.

I satisfied myself by thinking that he came at least now.

I remember the earlier scenes of Hamida Banu and Jalal. Hamida always greeted Jalal with a kiss on the forehead. I wonder why Jodha and Salim don't meet like a typical mother-son.

This constant rattle of MEH and SS for his parents is so irritating with regard to Salim's dialogs. 😡 When Jalal mentioned he was glad that Salim was with his mother, he replied something like it was his duty as a prince. !! Sheesh!!!

3. How come so many of Jalal's men couldn't catch the maid who brought the shawl, but the hawk-eyed Salima Begum could just look and catch sight of her, scurrying away??

It was indeed a treat and a shock too to watch Jalal actually PUNISH someone...And that too, with so much feeling /passion...


4. Salim was a changed man today. Sometimes I seriously think this Salim has multiple personality disorder. 😆


8. I mentioned this in yesterday's thread also. Why is Hamida suddenly worried about maintaining relations with the Shah?

She was initially against Jodha's conversion and asked Jalal to decide course of events. She didn't say anything when Sheikh Mubarak was reminding Jalal about the Shah's favors to the Mughals. She was quite approving when Salim announced in DEK that Akbar should take decision on his own and not be dictated to by the Shah.

Abhay, can MM go against the decision of the emperor?

In the show, anything can happen. :-P
In reality, HB would have not have bowed down before a foreign ruler and allowed him to interfere in the decision of his son.



10. Khudabanda??!! He was a weak and ineffective ruler. Here he is strong and "independent." At least I know his name now 😆

How can i forget his wife ? :-P
Though, she is not shown in the serial.


11. Yes, I also feel (in fact, earlier also I felt) that Hamida really wants Jodha to convert this time. But the CVs have introduced this most inconsistently. If they wanted this, then right from the beginning of the track, they should have shown Hamida siding with the Shah.

Precap: that's it! This scene should have been avoided. The brothers were fighting like roadside ruffians today...

Abhay, yeah, you are right - today's episode was something we could sink our teeth into - it had a great deal of substance and the story is moving well despite the NR. Let's hope this continues . till end of track.😊

Hmm...
I too hope for the same. :)



Radhika,
Quite refreshing post. Thanks. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tarunika13

Thanks for the wonderful update Abhay😊.

It was indeed a Dhamakedaar Episode👏. It gave a feel that finally we are watching a historical show.

It appears that entire khandaan of Jalal will get involved in this track which gave substance to this episode (as stated in your update that this episode had substance).
  • Besides Jalal, his 3 sons will stand up against Shah-e-Iran.
  • Jalal's daughter also gave her support by saying that she would never want to get married in a family who are against his father.
  • Marium Makani though does not agree with Jalal's strategy, but is hell bent on getting the issue resolved, even if it means asking Jodha to convert.
  • Jodha supports Jalal's decision.
Hope to see another action packed episode tomorrow😊.

Btw, it was Rajat all the way in this episode. He was spectacular in every scene👏.

One noteworthy point in today's episode - although Jalal did not agree with his Ammijaan, but it was conveyed in the most respectful manner without being rude and insolent. He stood by his stance without being arrogant and impolite.






Indeed a good episode Tarunika, which made efficient use of all characters. It was good to see inclusion of Rahim in the scene with Sheikh Moin.

@Bold...So apt was the difference between Salim and Akbar. Well said. :)

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Posted: 10 years ago
#90
hi abhay
still i hv a feeling that promo is a dream of HB.

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