end of Ashutosh's JA and beginning of K Asif's mughal-e-azam!-DTNTPg11

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hi folks!

i was going to make a post earlier but prior commitments kept me away from it and finally i got the time to jot down some of my thoughts on how this show might shape up!

as we have seen so far ekta has presented us the detailed version of Ashutosh Gwarikar's johda akbar!..after watching the movie, although i loved it i felt that it was missing something and that it was incomplete..ekta took the bold initiative and went ahead to complete those missing parts with pieces of history and chunks of natkiye rupantars..now some NRs were appealing while the others were not but then that is how daily soaps work, in order to cater to the trp audience some
nonsensical stuff needs to be incorporated..for which i forgive ekta, not for all NRs but for some!

now with maham's end an era of JA has ended or i would say one season has ended..MC was going to replace her but could not stand for long as Ashwini's MA is incomparable..it will be impossible to fill her shoes..and i would not be wrong in saying that Ashwini has immortalized maham anga just like rajat has immortalized akbar..whenever i think of real MA i think of ashwini's face and whenever i think of Akbar i think of rajat's face..this is the impact of the great show that has managed to stay on top of the trp charts inspite of being surrounded by controversies on and off!

now with all the main villains coming to an end..the phase of akbar's 9 gems and the next generation has started..we have already seen how MS and TM are actively involved and are the most trusted men of Akbar's..in other words they are his eyes!..now since all the negative people are being eliminated what is there in this show that will keep the audience engaged..lets dissect..

romance was high trp puller factor up until the sr, but now that seems to have taken a back seat and it has become stale and repetitive, as the leads do not seem to be at that comfort level where their scenes can be enjoyed, instead they just go unnoticed as there is nothing new and special about them, therefore romance to become the trp puller for this couple will not work!
then what will work..politics? incidents from akbar's real life? his administrative achievements? wars?..i doubt if ekta will go that root as it would need a highly paid creative team and a lot f money spend on war scenes and costumes..!..for her its easier to show simple sbs style harem politics as she knows that it is a guaranteed trp puller...but with maham's character gone how will that happen! ruk can be shown as completely negative but that actress is not as powerful as ashwini was and might not be able to hold it too long on her shoulders...now what is needed and here is what i think ekta might do...

ekta will take the show slowly into its season 2 phase where the story of K Asif's mughal-e-azam will start..now those of you who have not seen the movie watch it on you tube it was a very powerful film even more powerful than Ashutosh's JA!..and if she follows the same story line and gives us the detailed version of the film i think this show might give us record breaking trps depending on how good the cast is! and the new negative female character might be the one who wanted to mary salim and i believe bahar was her name...

some of you might be thinking what will happen to akhda if the show shifts to salim anarkali..nothing will happen to them their roles will become stronger and powerful..the missing romance and passion will be filled in by the new couple and this time ekta will be extra careful in hiring and will get legal documents in place so that the actor or actress don't disagree to fulfill what the role demands!..and i think this phase will start with a small leap when salim is still a little boy just like how it was in the movie and then the major leap when he grows into an adult and then the whole anarkali kissa starts..i think nothing might happen until end of this year but be prepared to see more changes by the next year..as i have read somewhere that auditions for young salim have already started and MP's akbar went for that audition as per his tweet mentioned by sara!

so guys i do not think that the leap will be that bad in fact it might be more interesting, and it will not kick in soon but will kick in as per trps..if they begin to fall then yes might happen sooner than anticipated but if the trps are stable then ekta might take her sweet time!..so let me know who all are excited to watch season two in the name of mughal-e-azam😊





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ghalibmirza thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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the post is updated, please read and do give your precious comments as to what you all think of it😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hmm. ...
Ruku can't be full time vamp for obvious reason that she was not tht bad in reality nor looks good in negative character... When ever they show harem full polics jodha vs ruku trp gets down only those Sbs works where all harem works together like mirchi war
Let's see trp puller tracks

Ruku MC
Vishpan week
Mirchi war
The concluding week of atifa track
Adham atga historical week

There is no high trp track which supports Sbs with jodha vs ruku

Only mirchi war was fully women power oriented where both jodha and ruku were standing shoulder to shoulder

So I believe jodha akbar trp audience are not interesting in chawl type Sbs tracks in this royal historical love story ...they want to see grace of royalty
War they can't show as u already described ...first of all jalal must have to go out from his haunted harem... He is really one most useless free soul in Agra palace... It can't happen according to daily soap formula ... Most of the heros remain at home roaming around heroin or they have no role in show ...

Salim Anarkali plot don't support Mahri jodha shakti andolan... Salim Anarkali story has sad end ... Acc to story ...love lost with the power ... How can it be possible when there is Ekta jodha ... Do u remember k asif jodha 🤣

Now compare both jodha ... There is not a single thing common in btw k asif jodha akbar and Ekta jodha akbar ...
K asif jodha didn't dare to argue akbar she's requested which was denied by akbar strongly
Here Ekta akbar can't dare to talk to her in loud voice ... Area yah tau agar moti sae bhi without big smile baat kr lega tau akbar the great ... Greatness comes on stake ... Tau according to mahanta and and prem shakti andolen theorem whether Anarkali should be vamp herself like benzo and atifa ... Or if she will be like k asif Anarkali how can this papoo akbar can'go against love ... Did u forget his speech in DEk about Shivani and d kangi man ...

Locha hae Bahai bohat Locha hae
Edited by smile.sara - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mandy the current scenario of JA no longer has a single villain - hence it will have to go the route of multiple villains - and the saazishes that did have high trps were those against the Emperor where the Emperor was shown as detangling it with Jodh being used as a pawn - except for Ben track and Mirchi war track all the others fit this norn - which does mean that the current Ruqs and subsequent SD track too will need to be a claim on the throne and kingship using Jodha as a pawn for high trps - and in such a scenario we can have 2 more short tracks in the same manner with the hand of kabul in the attack - but with that this would have to end warna it would just get repititive - which then brings us to the leap and Salim Anarkali - and I do see that Sara has a point - which would also mean that Anarkali would be the pawn in the power struggle for the throne and so would Salim - and thus the puppet master would need be someone else - thus the fight again between Akbar and this new puppetmaster for the throne of Hindustan.
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Never i do not agree to salim anarkali crap bcoz akdha is akdha as u say akbar and ma are imortalized by rt ashwini jo is also immortalized by pari and do not eliminate her and no mughal e azam itz jo akbat
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Posted: 11 years ago
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lovely post mandy...i feel leap is due...falling trps will ensure it...frankly speaking JA is fast loosing its charm for me...and yes new era is going to start as MA has left a void...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mandy...
1) Salim Anarkali is pure lore...no reality...some lores mention Anarkali as Akbar's concubine, n Salim n Anarkali fell in love...I for one, find this disgusting...🤢



2) but i agree with you about the non passion element of JA as of now...bland khichdi. ...n audience is craving for chicken biryani. ..😆...Looks like EK has begun ground work for SA...with MA's curse. ...n will show Salim as na farmaan. ...frankly, a womaniser ' s romance with a concubine does not appeal to me...not one bit 😃...im a bit old fashioned in these matters...😳


3) But one thing I'm sure of...I dont wish to see this JA any more...im being unable to tolerate this nonsense any more...i didn't see the ME yesterday...n reading the update, I don't intend to, either 🤢...frankly, if leap comes, n they show SA romance, i dont really know how interested I might be in watching it, however much passionate it might be...😃


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I find your ideas interesting but regarding the leap, I think anyone who makes the Jodha Akbar serial will be tempted to take time forward to the Salim Anarkali phase. That is a given, the only question is when?

Some people say that the serial no longer holds any interest for them and they would welcome a leap, fine, but even now the average TRP is only 20% less than what it was getting at it's peaks. A top 3 position maintained after months of trashy tracks speaks volumes of how strong the base audience is.

My feeling is this audience base will disintegrate if there is a significant leap. Anarkali is too weak a character to hold interest for long, and besides viewers have invested in Jodha Akbar, any new story with new characters will face a backlash.

The best solution even now is more romance between Jodha and Akbar, to build on viewer base and then to hold them with good drama.

Since it is an 8 PM show, not too hot a romance, give something like what was shown in old 60's or 70's hindi movies. Surely that can be managed, provided they atleast try it once.

It is very difficult to get a high ratings show, with a good international following(which somewhat balances the need of revenue from domestic sources). Now to put all that at risk by taking a leap, makes little business sense.

But as you said, it depends on the ratings. The ratings right now are satisfactory.
Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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JA is my favourite movie...when I saw Ashutosh's JA I loved it so much that I felt he should make JA part-2 also so that we can see more of Jodha n Akbar. Due to the movie I felt like watching JA show as it is a show we will get to see more akdha.
I have also seen Mughal-e-azam but the story is not as interesting as akdha. I never watched that movie again.
So I don't thonk salim anarkali can creat the magic which is created by akdha. I will stop watching JA after they introduce salim-anarkali track
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Posted: 11 years ago
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mandy, akbar was not the hero in mughal-e-azam. new entries mean rajat will be side tracked. this is EK's JA & it will be like pavitra rista where after entry of arjun-purvi, manav had almost no existance. so if u feel akbar will be strong after salim's entry ur wrong. infact, there can be many tracks which can show strong akbar even without the leap. his social reforms, his fatherly emotions, introduction of din-i-elahi. so im really ok with current JA love story rather than salim-anarkali.

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