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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: sonapari

A guy who shouts,screams at people has manners???
A polished guy would pull dori of a stranger???
A Harvard educated guy who doesn't understand difference between an affair & blackmail???
My definition of mannerisms is if you are angry,don't shout,don't break things...
Keep your feelings under control...
Just because you are angry doesn't mean you should go on rampage...
For me a polished guy is someone who knows how to behave with everyone...
How to treat everyone with respect,dignity ...
A guy who is man enouggh to say sorry when he is wrong...
So I can't connect to ASR at all...
I am a very hot headed person...but thankfully I don't shout,scream,throw things when I am upset...
That's what we learnt in preschool...
I am an engineer too...
But I don't look down upon people who are not educated...
May be I was fortunate enough to be born in wealthy,highly educated family...
I just did well in school...That was enough for me...
But some people don't get that chance...
Orphans are not that lucky ...they are given up by parents even before they are mature enough to know meaning of a parent...
I don't think class has anything to do with money,education...
Nani in ipkknd might be uneducated but I will call her polished & classy...
Polished or classy person will never touch dori of a stranger in first place...
Polished or classy person will never leaveAny human being from first floor...unless it's for self defense...
Polished or classy person will never refer to A poor girl as gold digger.without any proof...
...period...
So may be definition of classy,polished,well mannered is different in our books...😊



Most of the complaints you have are against the CVs not ASR
The inconsistency in character is due to poor writing and the drama factor
I doubt people would have watched this show, if not for all the halla that ASR made.
They have said time and time again, that it was deliberate.
The more extreme the person, the more the change is noticeable.
The sooner you realise this, the lesser maansik traas you will have.

TBH, I really loved the highlighted scene, because of the shock factor.
Also because I am aware that I am completely capable of doing that myself if pushed far enough.

If ASR was a more realistic character, right from the beginning, he would have ignored Khushi, because she was insignificant and irrelevant to him. But then again, we would have had no love story. Realistically speaking ASR-Sanaya and Barun-Khushi make a much realistic and probably pair. Arnav-Khushi can happen only in fiction.

And yes, our definitions of polished and classy are miles apart and in completely different planes. We might just never agree on them, but then again, we don't have too. I personally feel suffocated in company of people like Nani, Khushi, Garima, Payal. I appreciate that they are kind, honest, sweet and everything that is nice under the sun. Many of my relatives are like them. I love them to bits but our horizons are different but I feel brain dead in their company. Thank goodness I have my Dad!

PS: My dad lost his parents very young. But he is the one person I am very proud of. People are, what they make themselves, no matter what the conditions. And people who do, earn my respect. Giving excuses is far easier than achieving results. Did you hear about the para-olympics? The person who won the swimming competition, had no arms! Hats off!

Edited by -sanika- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aviation-ca

I think one line answer to:

Sanu the question she is asking Y girls defend him
because we know he is not acting out of malice.. unlike Shyam who while on surface charming acts with malice..
This is parallel to P&P.. Arnav is Mr. Darcy.. aloof, full of pride.. until the right woman came along.. Shyam is Mr. Wickham.. full of charm.. yet runining everyone around him...
As Mr. Darcy said to Miss Elizabeth Bennet:

''I certainly have not the talent which some people possess,'' said Darcy, ''of conversing easily with those I have never seen before. I cannot catch their tone of conversation, or appear interested in their concerns, as I often see done.''


So just bcos he is not acting out of malice its OK if he manhandles her, physically harm her (threw her from first floor), mentally/emotionally abuses her? ...That too without any proofs, without attempting to find truth.

Well even in case of an hit and run accident wher victim dies, judiciary world wide punishes the driver, yes that driver did not intend to kill the person, yes he ran bcos he thought of his self interest.


Shyam is out an out criminal so he I would just leave out from here
Darcy was snobish but not abusive..
Edited by memyselfandrshi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: -sanika-



Most of the complaints you have are against the CVs not ASR
The inconsistency in character is due to poor writing and the drama factor

I doubt people would have watched this show, if not for all the halla that ASR made.
They have said time and time again, that it was deliberate.
The more extreme the person, the more the change is noticeable.
The sooner you realise this, the lesser maansik traas you will have.

TBH, I really loved the highlighted scene, because of the shock factor.
Also because I am aware that I am completely capable of doing that myself if super pissed.

If ASR was a more realistic character, right from the beginning, he would have ignored Khushi, because she was insignificant to him. But then again, we would have had no love story. Realistically speaking ASR-Sanaya and Barun-Khushi make a much realistic and probably pair. Arnav-Khushi can happen only in fiction.

And yes, our definitions of polished and classy are miles apart and in completely different planes. We might just never agree on them, but then again, we don't have too. I personally feel suffocated in company of people like Nani, Khushi, Garima, Payal. I appreciate that they are kind, honest, sweet and everything that is nice under the sun. Many of my relatives are like them. I love them to bits but our horizons are different but I feel brain dead in their company. Thank goodness I have my Dad!

PS: My dad lost his parent very young. But he is the one person I am very proud of. People are, what they make themselves, not matter what the conditions. And people who do, earn my respect. Giving excuses is far easier than achieving results. Did you hear about the para-olympics? The person who won the swimming competition, had no arms! Hats off!


Sanika ASR is a reel fictional character so he is what the CV's make him. We cannot say that for all his characters that u like CV's were bang on and then for the other stuff script is faulty. We r Basically ASR comes to life he will have the good traits u admire and the dark traits that I condemn.
Edited by memyselfandrshi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#74
So happy to see such post!
I love when asr does something good...like yesterday when he kept his promise.he came and they got married ;even after a lot of tears but they got together

and i condemn and will carry on to do so...to critize, condemn or bash as people like to call all his evil acts


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Posted: 13 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: memyselfandrshi

Sanika ASR is a reel fictional character so he is what the CV's make him. We cannot say that for all his characters that u like CV's were bang on and then for the other stuff script is faulty. We r Basically ASR comes to life he will have the good traits u admire and the dark traits that I condemn.



I agree. But the characters are not real. But they a real like characters with exaggerated qualities. Just like Harry Potter. I still liked so many characters from it. But just because of that, I did not believe in magic. I know how to separate fiction and reality.

What I am trying to say is I admire many of his traits and I do not mind his dark traits. I have no problem at all with how he behaved with Khushi. You do. What you condone, from where I stand was simply good tactical decision. What you feel or condemn, doesn't affect my viewpoint of him and vice versa.

But one thing for sure, if Barun quits, I might just quit watching IPK, ASR or no ASR. It will be hard to relate to a new person.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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memyselfandarshi..
So just bcos he is not acting out of malice its OK if he manhandles her, physically harm her (threw her from first floor), mentally/emotionally abuses her? ...That too without any proofs, without attempting to find truth.

Well even in case of an hit and run accident wher victim dies, judiciary world wide punishes the driver, yes that driver did not intend to kill the person, yes he ran bcos he thought of his self interest.

To show the contrast.. they had to blow up the bad traits..they have to show him in negative light to bring about the positive change... yet to contrast that.. he has rescused her numerous times too..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#77
Dahling...

Just making sure we r not talking abt the actors and only the characters.

U see we all empathise with different characters in the serial. Some girls flipped for ASR and some joined Khushi in her journey. Ultimately all of us lived through the ups and down in the perspective of the one they empathised the most with. U see I have a nani u sees each episode twice. One at 8 pm and once next day rerun.
See was so stronly with Dadi , understanding her views , understanding her talk and ego . Only in the last when IPPKND dadi tried to derail the wedding did she finally say may be she should have not done it. Also she totally in on anjalis side. All she says is in our days women were indeed so less complicated. They married and their husbands were the most perfect creatures. While i could not get Poojali at all.
So us see girly are not bashing ASR because they condone that type of action int heir lives but simply living though IPKKND being ASR.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: -sanika-



Most of the complaints you have are against the CVs not ASR
The inconsistency in character is due to poor writing and the drama factor
I doubt people would have watched this show, if not for all the halla that ASR made.
They have said time and time again, that it was deliberate.
The more extreme the person, the more the change is noticeable.
The sooner you realise this, the lesser maansik traas you will have.

TBH, I really loved the highlighted scene, because of the shock factor.
Also because I am aware that I am completely capable of doing that myself if pushed far enough.

If ASR was a more realistic character, right from the beginning, he would have ignored Khushi, because she was insignificant and irrelevant to him. But then again, we would have had no love story. Realistically speaking ASR-Sanaya and Barun-Khushi make a much realistic and probably pair. Arnav-Khushi can happen only in fiction.

And yes, our definitions of polished and classy are miles apart and in completely different planes. We might just never agree on them, but then again, we don't have too. I personally feel suffocated in company of people like Nani, Khushi, Garima, Payal. I appreciate that they are kind, honest, sweet and everything that is nice under the sun. Many of my relatives are like them. I love them to bits but our horizons are different but I feel brain dead in their company. Thank goodness I have my Dad!

PS: My dad lost his parents very young. But he is the one person I am very proud of. People are, what they make themselves, no matter what the conditions. And people who do, earn my respect. Giving excuses is far easier than achieving results. Did you hear about the para-olympics? The person who won the swimming competition, had no arms! Hats off!

Yes as a person who has faced many health issues over years & still achieved my goal...
I am very proud to say that I am a strong willed ,determined person...
But for me I won't feel brain dead in anyone's company...even Sarah pAlin...
So Khushi appeals to me not only because she is selfless,sweet...
She appeals to me because rather than being a timid,defeated person like payal ,Khushi finds out a way to help out her adopted parents...
Khushi appeals to me because she is smarter than what some people think...
That Harvard educated guy couldn't figure out who kidnapped him,,what was camera company's bill about,where anji is secretly meeting & with whom she is in touch with ...
So common sense is not so common...as with ASR...
I also admire never say die attitude of Khushi...
Whereas in ASR's case he looked defeated when anji miscarriage happened...
A strong brother wouldn't have needed wife's shoulder to get strength to face anji...
So may be I don't connect to people who are so full of themselves...
I don't connect to ASR because I don't find him that smart as some other people think...
In this world there are so many ASR s...
Trust me I have found some traits of ASR in many people...
But my self experience tells me Khushi like people are a rare thing...
Because of people like ASR this world is such a not so nice place...
Thinking abilities separate us humans from animals...
Being brainy is great...
But beng brainy doesn't mean you can't be compassionate???
In contrast I would say compassionate ,sweet,selfless people are more evolved...
An evolution or god's magic...whatever you wan to call it...
Human beings are there to make this world a better place...
To help each other,to care for each other...
At least that's what I think...
But ASR is neither compassionate nor that smart...( anji & shyamu fooled him so...how smart is shyamu then??)
I didn't go to Harvard ...but being compassionate doesn't mean you are not brainy ,smart...
You can be a great human being & still you can be smart unlike ASR...
Edited by sonapari - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: shinaa

I think that as much as people deny to accept that its not the factor i feel that somewhere the very fine line between arnav and barun is blurred for them.and sometimes they see barun except of arnav and hence cant take any insult let alone a bad word against him irrespective of how much logical that word is.i remember that i cried that day when khushi was forced to fake a smile and distribute mithai after arnie announce his engagement with lavanya at the diwali party.honestly i cried.and the next time i cried was thurseday seeing that girl sitting in front of the fire but unlike previous time i am not mad at him because i also think that this time he is not at fault the situation and dadi is zimedar.but i still didnt forgive him for the diwali incident or gift nahi to tip or sab tumhare sadi se khush hain par tumhe dekhke lag raha hain jaisi tumhe abhi pata chala ke woh amir nahin hain line or apne amma bauji se najre kaise milati ho or innumerable occasion when he insulted her.but then also i see people defending him this lead the above conclusion sometime or should i say for some people the line got blurred.

Yep ...for too many girls ASR is in pain means BS is in pain...
So they can't relate to anyone's else pain as the abuser is ASR...
Unfortunate but true...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara

well very valid point u have raised!! but i guess the short and sweet answer is many girls don't look beyond the surface..
thus fail to care about the actual emotions of the characters, what they are going through as the appearances capture their attention more..

Also on IF the line b/w reel and real aspects of an actor becomes a blurred line..therefore supporting the character is synonyms with supporting the actor..which is very much wrong!

cz i have watched Barun himself criticizing somethings ASR does to Khushi!!

Anyway there r sane people here, who criticize both when and where it is due..

I think many people are not able to separate onscreen & offscreen personalities...
That's the reason...

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