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Wonderful posts evry1...i loved reading them😊 and i agree with all of u.(except yasri)
@Yasri- I will reply to ur post in bits:)
Based on what we saw till now, their reactions are not justified......
Leave sam apart......he is under nerves breakdown, so his condition/reaction can't be controled........and I beleive he is the only one who didn't move on......!!
i disagree he's not under a nervous breakdown, he works like any other trustee in excel college.
We saw him so broken because it was the day when everything changed for the worst...and his behaviour is continuing bcoz after years he saw mayank again, and now thinks its time to express his guilt. So basically he has moved on after nupur's death, but wat stops him is the guilt tht he was the reason.
his FB's portray mayank and gunjan more.
tht means he misses all tht he lost after the accident, and is not mourning on the loss of nupur but on the loss that came along after tht. He has accepted nupur's death.
We can see that both Mayu and Gunji did some effort to reach at where they are now........Mayu, a professor is a job that can't be get untill you are focused and giving your 100% effort..........so he moved on coz he had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
Gunji, though didn't show much about how she became councellor,.........but we can expect that she was focused too and gave her 100% till she had this job........so she moved on coz she had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
But Sam is a trustee coz his Mum invested in Excell......and it seems she put him as a trustee.........he never had to be focused or give his 100% to be in that job..........so there is no evident that he really could move on..........
Yes he works and act as a trustee.............but is it because he really loves this work and dreamt about it?!!..........is this work satisfies his own desire or satisfies the conditions around him.......?
No i think mayank reached US coz he already had an offer with him, thru his hardwork yes, but his way ahead was clear.
Gunjan yes i agree abt tht, she has surprised me with her attitude, she took all the positivity in her from the incident...and has indeed made her life stable.
About samrat no i dont think so...What u have to understand is tht samrat's pain is worst among the three, bcoz he lost his best friends, his love and is also blaming himself for evrything, Anger(mayank) is easier than guilt(samrat).
It doesnt matter anymore if the job of a trustee satisfied his dreams.
He is a dead man now...he doesnt dream, doesnt want a future.
His aim is clear, to not let others make the same mistakes he did.
And something very similar gunjan is doing...helping others.
He has only 2 emotions, to end his life at night doin all tht freaky dangerous things and the morning of hope, that things wud b back to usual, tht chashmish will come back to him. His subconscious mind saw gunjan stoppin him from jumping off the cliff.
It wasnt gunjan it was him only...those thoughts were his.
I dnt get the defintion of moving on u wish to portray does moving on means searching up a job and getting settled? i dont think so.
That is life which moves on. But moving on is different, none of them have moved on in the actual sense.
Gunjan- total cut off from the world doesnt mean moving on.
Mayank- Anger on samrat doesnt exPress his moving on...Hallucinatin nupur doesnt either...he thinks of her she comes when he needs her. He is still not over his mourning.
Because when one is actually done with the mourning, its not tears that stung the eye, but a smile(sad one ofcoz) that forms up when we think of the beautiful moments we had, when our heart doesnt ache but instead says. 'Its over, she wont come back, this is life'
He said I won't let anyone else do what I did..........I think this indicates what really is driving him to work as a trustee...............The guilt feeling........his work is only a part of the whole process of punishment he is making himself go through.....
He still not muture as you said........otherwise, he wouldn't try to kill himself...... a person who try to help students at morning whereas try to kill himself at night............this is more complicated than maturity!!!
Well so u mean when one does stunts, and tries to end his life it is not maturity? true, but thts him, wat will he live for now? he wishes death over this miserable life of his.
But doing dangerous stunts is something very different.ever wondered why slitting the wrist or anywhere on the skin feels bliss? why riding in high speed feels good?
u r right its punishing oneself.
He has learned tht life is not how he assumed it to be...not a child's play.
He doesnt want to kill himself bcoz he has hope tht gunjan will come back, he imagined her, stopping him from jumping, it was his own mind. He doesnt want to die, but the pain and guilt is too much, tht he feels gud while punishing himself.He also learned from the incident, he left all the things he thought were his life. BB..just a game..Music...just a timepass....
so he has somewhere matured...not reached the level of high maturity, but to an extent😊
Mayu's actions aginst Sam is not justified in my pov........and so is Gunji's..........living in greif doesn't give the right to hurt or ruin other's life..........how if that other is a friend or fiancee who shared your happiness and pains......!!.......it seems like Mayu forgot all the support he got from Sam to get marry Nupur...........and Gunji forgot the days when Sam could lose his life just to bring back happiness in her life...
If both don't want to cont their relation with him,.......then fine, no problem it's their own choice........but to affect emotionly on others in a way that hurts, like blaming everything on them,........then this is not correct or even justified.......
When one mourns its doesnt necassarily proves him right, they are wrong, but their behaviour is justified, now u r gettin confused with my pov m sure lol.
If we look at it logically just like u r doing then their actions r not right, but if we understand the character then their behaviour is justified.
As per me mayank hasnt moved on yet, which is why he likes to blame samrat.
Recently when nirbhay answered abt love u saw the look mayank gave sam? It was of ermm satisfaction. He feels gud when samrat gets sad...he likes to see sam in pain.
Anger as i said is a part of mourning, and it is tht which mayank is gong through.
Irrationally he blames samrat, he is justified because its true, it happens in real life, people do blame others some blame god. Its only natural...and when he stops blaming samrat tht will be truly when he gets over his mourning, when his anger will die.
Secondly gunjan doesnt blame samrat but she left him, as i said total cut off from the world proof is tht She told mayank as well, i dont wanna talk abt excel and related people.
I've lost my sis in a similar accident.........the driver was driving fast..........so police caught him to be judged in court.......but my mum forgave him.............and she kept visiting his family and support them untill the end of his trial..........I wondered then why she is doing so....?!!
She told me " I forgave him coz my doughter won't come back anyway, and I believe pictures of the accident that he would see everynight before sleepnig would be more than enough to make him never repeat his mistake...........and I keep visit his family coz now I realize the meaning of losing a dear, so I can feel their pain and I don't want my doughter to be a reason for ruining the life of a whole family (his wife and kids)"
It was one of the best lessons I've learned from my mom......
Don't you think in Nup's few scenes after death she showed her dissatisfaction ragarding this seperation between Mayu and Sam..........Do you think she is happy seeing this seperation between the 3?!!!
That's indeed a gr8 lesson, ur mom is an angel😊
@blue- And u hit it! U r bang on right! but it was not nupur, thats the whole point why mayank is justified. It is mayank's imagination his subconscious mind.
All that nupur said is wat he thinks. He knows its not right to blame samrat, he knows it all..but he cant acceot it, cant implement the same, because his heart doesnt let him, his undying love for nupur doesnt let him.
myself,..............by leaving and blaming him in such a way............is the friendship and the love we saw in season1 was so easy to be broke in such a way and for such reasons...?!!................what if Sam could succeed in killing himself............wouldn't both Mayu and Gunji be a reason for his death and hurting his family....?!!!
And knowing Mayu and Gunji for 2 years now..........I'm 100000% sure there is a forth party who played games on them............coz both have pure hearts that can't hurt anyone.........it's just impossible!!.........I have full trust on these 2 ...........Otherwise, their actions are not justified in my pov........
About the fourth party maybe thts right..i dont knw..but leaving those assumptions till now watever has been revealed to us, i still side with the three...their behaviour is justified.
About Mayank and Gunji...pure hearts, yes gunjan doesnt blame sam..its her purity, but her weakness also reflects she cant face him...he reminds her of everything.
mayank- Pure heart...well seeing him from past 2 years, i think he is an impulsive guy, he has fought with nupur so many times, i think that the accident and the loss of his wife, is enough reason for him to behave like this.
I liked ur post honestly eventhough i dont agree with u
Because u have expressed plain logic in ur post, which is right.
But logic is something the 3 cant touch on right now.
Their grief is more...and very painful too.
They know..for Gunjan its very clear she stil rememers sam, misses him not with hatred but tears, she understands and mayank he knows as well tht his anger towards sam is not right. Because again watever nupur said is wat he thinks..his subconscious mind.
but his heart rides him.
Its not the characters who are responsible for the end of the beautiful bond of fndship n love portrayed in season 1 but it is the situation tht tied them up and pulled them apart.
And tht is wat MJHT season 2 is about.
about these 3 as the name says 'Miley Jab Hum Tum' again...their journey from that point.
Its how they get over their mourning...and again come together...find shelter among each other.
Samrat, Mayank And Gunjan together again. the thought itself is a bliss. but pain as well. coz nupur is..dead..i hope she comes back. oops gettin offtopic now.
I wud like to knw if ur pov changed after my post...if not wud love to discuss this topic more with u:)
@Yasri- I will reply to ur post in bits:)
Based on what we saw till now, their reactions are not justified......
Leave sam apart......he is under nerves breakdown, so his condition/reaction can't be controled........and I beleive he is the only one who didn't move on......!!
i disagree he's not under a nervous breakdown, he works like any other trustee in excel college.
We saw him so broken because it was the day when everything changed for the worst...and his behaviour is continuing bcoz after years he saw mayank again, and now thinks its time to express his guilt. So basically he has moved on after nupur's death, but wat stops him is the guilt tht he was the reason.
his FB's portray mayank and gunjan more.
tht means he misses all tht he lost after the accident, and is not mourning on the loss of nupur but on the loss that came along after tht. He has accepted nupur's death.
We can see that both Mayu and Gunji did some effort to reach at where they are now........Mayu, a professor is a job that can't be get untill you are focused and giving your 100% effort..........so he moved on coz he had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
Gunji, though didn't show much about how she became councellor,.........but we can expect that she was focused too and gave her 100% till she had this job........so she moved on coz she had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
But Sam is a trustee coz his Mum invested in Excell......and it seems she put him as a trustee.........he never had to be focused or give his 100% to be in that job..........so there is no evident that he really could move on..........
Yes he works and act as a trustee.............but is it because he really loves this work and dreamt about it?!!..........is this work satisfies his own desire or satisfies the conditions around him.......?
No i think mayank reached US coz he already had an offer with him, thru his hardwork yes, but his way ahead was clear.
Gunjan yes i agree abt tht, she has surprised me with her attitude, she took all the positivity in her from the incident...and has indeed made her life stable.
About samrat no i dont think so...What u have to understand is tht samrat's pain is worst among the three, bcoz he lost his best friends, his love and is also blaming himself for evrything, Anger(mayank) is easier than guilt(samrat).
It doesnt matter anymore if the job of a trustee satisfied his dreams.
He is a dead man now...he doesnt dream, doesnt want a future.
His aim is clear, to not let others make the same mistakes he did.
And something very similar gunjan is doing...helping others.
He has only 2 emotions, to end his life at night doin all tht freaky dangerous things and the morning of hope, that things wud b back to usual, tht chashmish will come back to him. His subconscious mind saw gunjan stoppin him from jumping off the cliff.
It wasnt gunjan it was him only...those thoughts were his.
I dnt get the defintion of moving on u wish to portray does moving on means searching up a job and getting settled? i dont think so.
That is life which moves on. But moving on is different, none of them have moved on in the actual sense.
Gunjan- total cut off from the world doesnt mean moving on.
Mayank- Anger on samrat doesnt exPress his moving on...Hallucinatin nupur doesnt either...he thinks of her she comes when he needs her. He is still not over his mourning.
Because when one is actually done with the mourning, its not tears that stung the eye, but a smile(sad one ofcoz) that forms up when we think of the beautiful moments we had, when our heart doesnt ache but instead says. 'Its over, she wont come back, this is life'
He said I won't let anyone else do what I did..........I think this indicates what really is driving him to work as a trustee...............The guilt feeling........his work is only a part of the whole process of punishment he is making himself go through.....
He still not muture as you said........otherwise, he wouldn't try to kill himself...... a person who try to help students at morning whereas try to kill himself at night............this is more complicated than maturity!!!
Well so u mean when one does stunts, and tries to end his life it is not maturity? true, but thts him, wat will he live for now? he wishes death over this miserable life of his.
But doing dangerous stunts is something very different.ever wondered why slitting the wrist or anywhere on the skin feels bliss? why riding in high speed feels good?
u r right its punishing oneself.
He has learned tht life is not how he assumed it to be...not a child's play.
He doesnt want to kill himself bcoz he has hope tht gunjan will come back, he imagined her, stopping him from jumping, it was his own mind. He doesnt want to die, but the pain and guilt is too much, tht he feels gud while punishing himself.He also learned from the incident, he left all the things he thought were his life. BB..just a game..Music...just a timepass....
so he has somewhere matured...not reached the level of high maturity, but to an extent😊
Mayu's actions aginst Sam is not justified in my pov........and so is Gunji's..........living in greif doesn't give the right to hurt or ruin other's life..........how if that other is a friend or fiancee who shared your happiness and pains......!!.......it seems like Mayu forgot all the support he got from Sam to get marry Nupur...........and Gunji forgot the days when Sam could lose his life just to bring back happiness in her life...
If both don't want to cont their relation with him,.......then fine, no problem it's their own choice........but to affect emotionly on others in a way that hurts, like blaming everything on them,........then this is not correct or even justified.......
When one mourns its doesnt necassarily proves him right, they are wrong, but their behaviour is justified, now u r gettin confused with my pov m sure lol.
If we look at it logically just like u r doing then their actions r not right, but if we understand the character then their behaviour is justified.
As per me mayank hasnt moved on yet, which is why he likes to blame samrat.
Recently when nirbhay answered abt love u saw the look mayank gave sam? It was of ermm satisfaction. He feels gud when samrat gets sad...he likes to see sam in pain.
Anger as i said is a part of mourning, and it is tht which mayank is gong through.
Irrationally he blames samrat, he is justified because its true, it happens in real life, people do blame others some blame god. Its only natural...and when he stops blaming samrat tht will be truly when he gets over his mourning, when his anger will die.
Secondly gunjan doesnt blame samrat but she left him, as i said total cut off from the world proof is tht She told mayank as well, i dont wanna talk abt excel and related people.
I've lost my sis in a similar accident.........the driver was driving fast..........so police caught him to be judged in court.......but my mum forgave him.............and she kept visiting his family and support them untill the end of his trial..........I wondered then why she is doing so....?!!
She told me " I forgave him coz my doughter won't come back anyway, and I believe pictures of the accident that he would see everynight before sleepnig would be more than enough to make him never repeat his mistake...........and I keep visit his family coz now I realize the meaning of losing a dear, so I can feel their pain and I don't want my doughter to be a reason for ruining the life of a whole family (his wife and kids)"
It was one of the best lessons I've learned from my mom......
Don't you think in Nup's few scenes after death she showed her dissatisfaction ragarding this seperation between Mayu and Sam..........Do you think she is happy seeing this seperation between the 3?!!!
That's indeed a gr8 lesson, ur mom is an angel😊
@blue- And u hit it! U r bang on right! but it was not nupur, thats the whole point why mayank is justified. It is mayank's imagination his subconscious mind.
All that nupur said is wat he thinks. He knows its not right to blame samrat, he knows it all..but he cant acceot it, cant implement the same, because his heart doesnt let him, his undying love for nupur doesnt let him.
myself,..............by leaving and blaming him in such a way............is the friendship and the love we saw in season1 was so easy to be broke in such a way and for such reasons...?!!................what if Sam could succeed in killing himself............wouldn't both Mayu and Gunji be a reason for his death and hurting his family....?!!!
And knowing Mayu and Gunji for 2 years now..........I'm 100000% sure there is a forth party who played games on them............coz both have pure hearts that can't hurt anyone.........it's just impossible!!.........I have full trust on these 2 ...........Otherwise, their actions are not justified in my pov........
About the fourth party maybe thts right..i dont knw..but leaving those assumptions till now watever has been revealed to us, i still side with the three...their behaviour is justified.
About Mayank and Gunji...pure hearts, yes gunjan doesnt blame sam..its her purity, but her weakness also reflects she cant face him...he reminds her of everything.
mayank- Pure heart...well seeing him from past 2 years, i think he is an impulsive guy, he has fought with nupur so many times, i think that the accident and the loss of his wife, is enough reason for him to behave like this.
I liked ur post honestly eventhough i dont agree with u
Because u have expressed plain logic in ur post, which is right.
But logic is something the 3 cant touch on right now.
Their grief is more...and very painful too.
They know..for Gunjan its very clear she stil rememers sam, misses him not with hatred but tears, she understands and mayank he knows as well tht his anger towards sam is not right. Because again watever nupur said is wat he thinks..his subconscious mind.
but his heart rides him.
Its not the characters who are responsible for the end of the beautiful bond of fndship n love portrayed in season 1 but it is the situation tht tied them up and pulled them apart.
And tht is wat MJHT season 2 is about.
about these 3 as the name says 'Miley Jab Hum Tum' again...their journey from that point.
Its how they get over their mourning...and again come together...find shelter among each other.
Samrat, Mayank And Gunjan together again. the thought itself is a bliss. but pain as well. coz nupur is..dead..i hope she comes back. oops gettin offtopic now.
I wud like to knw if ur pov changed after my post...if not wud love to discuss this topic more with u:)
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