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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

abzs sweety thanks for reply it means so much dear... agree with ur each word ... Death uncertain and unavoidable, yet unacceptable..

Void or the emptiness is something which cannot be removed yet can be refilled with something different.
memories are treasures to be cherished to get strength to move ...
remember them when u feel things are not right and not moving ... they are memories .... which means "when me -- no worries "


awww aarthi its my pleasure and honour 2 reply 2 such sensible and useful topics and posts.

@AHHHHHHHHH yes unacceptable.demise of one person especially who is very much near and dear 2 u.it becomes so hard for u 2 digest the FACT.it looks as if the whole world has stopped.the memories with in seconds gush out.u feel left out.tears start pouring down like it has never poured before.

but aarthi emptiness even takes memories with itself right? what do u do then? sumthng different cannot take the place of the memories right?

yes ofcourse.but my doubt is according to the quotation u move with new characters.yes u move on but the memories.u dont leave them behind right cuz once u start along with new characters and new pple u hav new memories so wont they replace the old ones?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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okie me off frm this topic now.will b back 2mrrow! cya aarthi!🤗🤗 love u!🤗🤗🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aabha.M


awww aarthi its my pleasure and honour 2 reply 2 such sensible and useful topics and posts.

@AHHHHHHHHH yes unacceptable.demise of one person especially who is very much near and dear 2 u.it becomes so hard for u 2 digest the FACT.it looks as if the whole world has stopped.the memories with in seconds gush out.u feel left out.tears start pouring down like it has never poured before.

but aarthi emptiness even takes memories with itself right? what do u do then? sumthng different cannot take the place of the memories right?

yes ofcourse.but my doubt is u the quotation says u move with new characters.yes u move on but the memories.u dont leave them behind right cuz once u start along with new characters and new pple u hav new memories so wont they replace the old ones?

abzs its the emptiness is what we need to fill with something new... the memories are there behind as treasure.. for eg like say a chain of gold given to u by ur grandmom ... u cherish it, u wear it on regularly , but at times when certain words or incidence reminds you of her and u remember ur moments with her ... yet u buy new ornaments of say even daimonds and treasure them along with time .. yet the simple chain gifted by our grandmom is always the most cherished and percious one for u which u will never part..
Same goes with the characters/people ... they come , they give unforgetable memories which we keep for life time , in days to come u add new characters/people and their memories, yet the one which touch ur heart remains forever and no one ever can steal that. they return when u least expect them or when u need them.. because sub consciously u keep remebering them... they are never away from u they are just taken a back seat. they will come fornt when u need them to push u ahead. or say just need them.
and thats what was shown so beautifully by the CVs thru mayank ,he has moved in life, achived he dreamt of, yet at times of need he sees nupur around him talking to him, guiding him .. she is physically not there yet she is in his subconscious mind along with him...
Same goes with Samrat may be not by death but physical distance he is same as mayank ... he physically way from gunjan, yet with each step in he takes remembers hers subconsciously talks to her asking her for reasons which he himself does not have...
Mayank knows Nupur will never return, he has only the memories to live, but for sam he has the guilt and hopes for her return and forgiveness which makes him worse. as for him he cant live with the guilt and cannot die because of the hope...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Honestly....One of the most beautiful posts I have read in this forum so far
And I had always felt that their actions were justified
I can't imagine losing my mom but one day my mom had left the house and I was already crying because she wasn't picking her cell phone (it was also raining and flooding that day)
So even 3 years isn't as long as it may seem
3 cheers to Mohit though because he is expressing that anger and guilt VERY WELL
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Posted: 15 years ago
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agree with you yr....

Gunjan...she lost her dearest sister...the one who had risen her since childhood...the one who loved her the most...the one...who looked after her when her mother past away...and last but not the least the one who was in the place of her mother.....she was her everything...but she went too far..that there was no way back....when she found out about her sisters death...she was shattered...she was shocked...she didnt use her heart instead she used her mind....she held samrat responsible for the accident...which changed their lives....she was thinking from heart but from her mind... same with mayank..

Samrat when one person blames the other person...the other person also thinks the same....and same happened to samrat.....when gunjan and mayank left him cause of the accident they blamed him for...he too felt guilty....he too lost his friend nupur....and when mayank and gunji left him...he felt guilty of loosing his friends which made him feel guilty for the accident too...he felt like his friends are right....but he was in pain too....they all didnt see his pain...he too lost a friend....but when he needed his friends gunjan and mayank...they left him lying in the hospital bed....he just never thinked about himself...he thinked from his friends mind...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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WOW dear what a superb topic you deserve this 👏

logo ko akasar kehate suna hai ki kisi ke jane se jindagi ruk nahi jati lekin jindagi main lakho log milane se ush ek ki kami puri nahi hoti

yes this is truth of all three ,death of mayank's wife, gun's di and sam's buddy changed everything nup made them mature ,responsible this is positive side but in this accident all three lost their real identity and all three made their life deserted all three who used to be in one frame now ignore and don't face each other

here sam thinks he is responsible for all this and makes his life like hell as in morning he only follows his responsibility as trustee but in night he becomes real guilty and vulnerable and everyday tries to kill himself only to punish himself but his chashmish's love always stops him bcz he knows only she can understand him really very well 😳

gunjan gosh this girl took all positivity from this incident and to make herself engaged with work and to help others she becomes counsellor and with her experience she always help others , her di's memory supports her to motive other's to move on and get life

mayank who lost his partner and better half made himself engineer and now prof 😆 who's life is moving around only memories of nup and only accept excel's job for justice and living deserted life

here ppl r blaming and sharing their views who is right and who is wrong but i think all r right but situation is wrong mayank is angry on sam yes bcz of sam's mistake he lost his wife ya he also told him for high speed but he lost his wife how can he think all this but with time he will understand sam for sure

gun is i think knows very well it was destiny and mistake as sam is not responsible for this but she lost her di and her di's love made her to move away from him but only she is the one who can understand him well so she will be there for sam

and sam with help of mayank n gunjan will realize destiny had chosen him for this and it was not his fault at all
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

abzs its the emptiness is what we need to fill with something new... the memories are there behind as treasure.. for eg like say a chain of gold given to u by ur grandmom ... u cherish it, u wear it on regularly , but at times when certain words or incidence reminds you of her and u remember ur moments with her ... yet u buy new ornaments of say even daimonds and treasure them along with time .. yet the simple chain gifted by our grandmom is always the most cherished and percious one for u which u will never part..

Same goes with the characters/people ... they come , they give unforgetable memories which we keep for life time , in days to come u add new characters/people and their memories, yet the one which touch ur heart remains forever and no one ever can steal that. they return when u least expect them or when u need them.. because sub consciously u keep remebering them... they are never away from u they are just taken a back seat. they will come fornt when u need them to push u ahead. or say just need them.

okie....so u trying 2 say that characters just move on just like a cool sweet breeze.it is just the memories which carried over 2 the next phase of life!but aarthi can it b like the memories are always with u? like whatever u do it reminds u of that person?

and thats what was shown so beautifully by the CVs thru mayank ,he has moved in life, achived he dreamt of, yet at times of need he sees nupur around him talking to him, guiding him .. she is physically not there yet she is in his subconscious mind along with him...
Same goes with Samrat may be not by death but physical distance he is same as mayank ... he physically way from gunjan, yet with each step in he takes remembers hers subconsciously talks to her asking her for reasons which he himself does not have...
Mayank knows Nupur will never return, he has only the memories to live, but for sam he has the guilt and hopes for her return and forgiveness which makes him worse. as for him he cant live with the guilt and cannot die because of the hope...


Oh god aarthi i cant tell u how beautifully CVs hav portrayed this aspect of life.THE SHOW MUST GO ON WHATSOEVER!

the best example of this would b gunjan!i am not being biased now but that is what i feel.she has perfectly moved on.she is trying 2 help others and even help herself out of this trauma.she is trying 2 reduce her pain by spectating others pain and trying 2 help them too.

mayank.he is more sort of emotionally practical in life.he became the engineer and his only intention(lesson frm his own life) was 2 change the life of other people.give them a life.just a try.fortunately it has proved him lucky.

samrat.well i am a bit unsatisfied with his growth.yes he has matured.but still he is not following the rule of life.LIFE MUST MOVE ON!yes it is true that teh guilt kills him every other day but somewhere down the lane he too needs 2 accept the truth and needs 2 move on!he needs 2 be practical in life!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I appreciate your topic but can't agree with you.......!!

Based on what we saw till now, their reactions are not justified......
Leave sam apart......he is under nerves breakdown, so his condition/reaction can't be controled........and I beleive he is the only one who didn't move on......!!
We can see that both Mayu and Gunji did some effort to reach at where they are now........Mayu, a professor is a job that can't be get untill you are focused and giving your 100% effort..........so he moved on coz he had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
Gunji, though didn't show much about how she became councellor,.........but we can expect that she was focused too and gave her 100% till she had this job........so she moved on coz she had ambition after Nup's death and could achieve that ambition
But Sam is a trustee coz his Mum invested in Excell......and it seems she put him as a trustee.........he never had to be focused or give his 100% to be in that job..........so there is no evident that he really could move on..........
Yes he works and act as a trustee.............but is it because he really loves this work and dreamt about it?!!..........is this work satisfies his own desire or satisfies the conditions around him.......?
He said I won't let anyone else do what I did..........I think this indicates what really is driving him to work as a trustee...............The guilt feeling........his work is only a part of the whole process of punishment he is making himself go through.....
He still not muture as you said........otherwise, he wouldn't try to kill himself...... a person who try to help students at morning whereas try to kill himself at night............this is more complicated than maturity!!!
Mayu's actions aginst Sam is not justified in my pov........and so is Gunji's..........living in greif doesn't give the right to hurt or ruin other's life..........how if that other is a friend or fiancee who shared your happiness and pains......!!.......it seems like Mayu forgot all the support he got from Sam to get marry Nupur...........and Gunji forgot the days when Sam could lose his life just to bring back happiness in her life...
If both don't want to cont their relation with him,.......then fine, no problem it's their own choice........but to affect emotionly on others in a way that hurts, like blaming everything on them,........then this is not correct or even justified.......
I've lost my sis in a similar accident.........the driver was driving fast..........so police caught him to be judged in court.......but my mum forgave him.............and she kept visiting his family and support them untill the end of his trial..........I wondered then why she is doing so....?!!
She told me " I forgave him coz my doughter won't come back anyway, and I believe pictures of the accident that he would see everynight before sleepnig would be more than enough to make him never repeat his mistake...........and I keep visit his family coz now I realize the meaning of losing a dear, so I can feel their pain and I don't want my doughter to be a reason for ruining the life of a whole family (his wife and kids)"
It was one of the best lessons I've learned from my mom......
Don't you think in Nup's few scenes after death she showed her dissatisfaction ragarding this seperation between Mayu and Sam..........Do you think she is happy seeing this seperation between the 3?!!!
Now this makes me ask myself,..............by leaving and blaming him in such a way............is the friendship and the love we saw in season1 was so easy to be broke in such a way and for such reasons...?!!................what if Sam could succeed in killing himself............wouldn't both Mayu and Gunji be a reason for his death and hurting his family....?!!!
And knowing Mayu and Gunji for 2 years now..........I'm 100000% sure there is a forth party who played games on them............coz both have pure hearts that can't hurt anyone.........it's just impossible!!.........I have full trust on these 2 ...........Otherwise, their actions are not justified in my pov........
Edited by yasri - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aabha.M


Oh god aarthi i cant tell u how beautifully CVs hav portrayed this aspect of life.THE SHOW MUST GO ON WHATSOEVER!

the best example of this would b gunjan!i am not being biased now but that is what i feel.she has perfectly moved on.she is trying 2 help others and even help herself out of this trauma.she is trying 2 reduce her pain by spectating others pain and trying 2 help them too.

mayank.he is more sort of emotionally practical in life.he became the engineer and his only intention(lesson frm his own life) was 2 change the life of other people.give them a life.just a try.fortunately it has proved him lucky.

samrat.well i am a bit unsatisfied with his growth.yes he has matured.but still he is not following the rule of life.LIFE MUST MOVE ON!yes it is true that teh guilt kills him every other day but somewhere down the lane he too needs 2 accept the truth and needs 2 move on!he needs 2 be practical in life!

Abzs exactly Cvs have given again a positive msg that life must move on... time and life does not awaits for anyone..its always on move...
and as u said both mayank and gunjan have accepted the loss of one person who means life to them and have moved ahead with time with each other as support ... but for sam as not moved in life is because its not the void created by just one person its because of three people in his life who meant everything to him, and here where gunjan will play an important role to make him accept the truth and move ahead with her along.. because at present samrat is like a child who need someone important whom he can have confidence to hold his hand and take him ahead even with out his will.. and thats only possible by gunjan his soulmate...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

Abzs exactly Cvs have given again a positive msg that life must move on... time and life does not awaits for anyone..its always on move...

and as u said both mayank and gunjan have accepted the loss of one person who means life to them and have moved ahead with time with each other as support ... but for sam as not moved in life is because its not the void created by just one person its because of three people in his life who meant everything to him, and here where gunjan will play an important role to make him accept the truth and move ahead with her along.. because at present samrat is like a child who need someone important whom he can have confidence to hold his hand and take him ahead even with out his will.. and thats only possible by gunjan his soulmate...


i just went through yasri's post and it says samrat isnt matured.i agreed with her point aarthi.she says samrat hasnt moved on still.he is the trustee of the college only under his mom's will.samrat has matured.yes he has.now he knows what life is.what pain is.what happiness and that is part of maturity.maturity i gain by age and sumtimes experience.

yet again i agree with her.samrat helps the students in the morning and helps himself die in the night.thats not called maturity.he needs 2 look up and the world like gunjan and mayank does.he needs 2 learn how 2 reduce his pain and yes ofcourse guilt can never be reduced!

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