Hypocrisy thy name is Virat Chavan! - Page 2

He did fail big time in not standing up for her when people were hurling insults at her or harassing her. Yes, it wouldn't make sense when the same person say "I am your husband" but that also came because of the feelings he has for her. Sai herself considers her as his wife. She would do the same if she was in his position, trying to exercise her rights as a wife even if they have had issues. Why so? Because both want each other. Husband and wife can have many issues but at the end it all comes to what they want. Sai wants the same as him. She was happy he stopped her because that was something she expected him to do even in the hospital. What does it show? In a way it is showing that she is valuing her relationship more than anything else. I don't know whether it is right or not. In general, I wouldn't want anyone to compromise on their self respect like this especially after what had happened. But I am a person who actually values relationship more than anything else. It is subjective.

I can tell you what made Sai stay back. Yes, they had all insulted her, yes, he had let her down by not accepting a few truths, no denial. However, as you would have noticed, she herself gave it a thought about what Virat said. Virat told his mom that Sai has misunderstood and wasn't listening to him. Well, that's true. He couldn't answer her when she asked him the previous night which is normal because he was taken aback thinking if he could have been a reason for Samrat to not return. He was in denial. But he did try to sort it out the next day and it was natural for her also to stay upset not willing to talk to him. So, Sai could see that she could have also been wrong in her understanding, she knows that he did try to sort it out. When a person thinks if they had a contribution to an issue, they would like to give a chance for the other person to explain or would give a benefit of doubt to the other person. This benefit of doubt only means that she was also wrong in misunderstanding him and asking him questions especially in front of everyone. Yes, Pakhi triggered her and it turned out to be this way because Sai never planned to bring it up this way, she was pushed to ask Pakhi questions because Pakhi was making her life a hell everyday and Pakhi cannot get away saying Sai was behaving that way only because Sai couldn't tolerate her talking with Virat. She was blaming Sai with something that wasn't true and the truth was quite an ugly one and the lady had the audacity to blame it on Sai. She didn't stop it there but also shared that Virat slept on the couch.

Anyway Sai knows that one part of what she knows is true, which is their past but the other part that he was still honouring the waada or not is not something she knows for sure. And it is this realisation that brought Sai to the hospital and most importantly made her stay back when she was stopped from leaving. Sai also knows what all Virat has done for her, she knows his nature, his character and his qualities. In general, a person always considers all the good things that their spouse has done, they look at or think about how they have been as a person before takimg any decisions. One should not neglect the good deeds of a person.

About getting hurt that she gave away the necklace. Even if he has failed in a few ways, his feelings for Sai is not fake. He does have feelings for her and wants to spend his life with her. So, it was very natural for the guy to get hurt that what he had bought with love for her was given away to Kaku. He wasn't aware of what had happened that made Sai do it but he did understand later when he spoke to his friend that whatever it is, Sai is a person good at heart and she would have not given it to anyone because she didn't care about his feelings but would have given it only out out pure love. He had also noticed how she loved it and wore it excitingly, so he did understand that Sai would definitely alue him and his gift.

What I would say is that they both did not get married under normal circumstances. When people can have issues even when their marriage is a normal one, there would be a lot of issues in this relationship. Both of them will have an insecurity that will go away only when they come to know what the other person wants. Hatred that his family has for this girl isn't helping them. Obsessiveness of his past for him is also not helping, they are causing issues between the two.

Both want only one thing, to be with each other. I am not saying Sai should end up coming to him at the end of everything, both of them have rights to end it when the other person fails and hurt them very badly. His intentions are not bad, he is not doing a few things which he should be. That is also not because he doesn't care, it is just that he has got used to many things in the house, he is failing to see how it is affecting Sai, he hasn't got a full picture a few times as what is happening in the house. It is also because his family is his weakness. All he has to do is start acting bold and take a certain issues more seriously. His feelings or intentions for Sai are sincere, he just lacks a few qualities.

Sai also lacks a few qualities and she also is flawed, it is just that his past and his family is his biggest enemy which is not in favour of him at the moment. Sai is suffering ofcourse because she is subjected to the hatred by his past and his family added to his inability to tackle it. He has always had feelings for Sai, has always tried to make their relationship work, has given a lot for this relationship but failed big times during a few tests.

I have already said this in some other post, he is a guy who is experiencing some new feelings for someone very new and unique like Sai whom he is not used to. He is like an object in an experiment who has no clue how to act to certain circumstances and is failing. He will only learn from his mistakes, will have to work on his flaws so that he passes the test which he is subjected to. Sai is also not an easy person, she is unique in her own ways and can also cause trouble sometimes due to her nature like stubbornness or impulsiveness which is again not helping him. He is not used to anyone like her, he wants her for who she is, has feelings for her but doesn't know how to react to a certain situations when it is about her. As I have already said, his family and his past are the hindrance in their life. Just like how Sai feels that she doesn't know how to live in a joint family, he also doesn't understand how to tackle issues that gets created between him and Sai due to his family and his past.

About his accusation, I would want to wait for the actual track to comment on it since it is too early to comment about it. I know a few things that he is too possessive of Sai, he just cannot expect that she shouldn't talk to any of her classmates or grow angry due to that and it would come out as double standards when he can act friendly with his past (even if he considers her as just a food friend and his brother's wife) but Sai cannot talk to a male friend. Again, it bothers him mainly because he doesn't know where they both stand in their relationship, it is his insecurity which will be playing a part for him to get jealous. She is someone whom he has started to have feelings, he just doesn't know how to react, has no control over his emotions and hence is acting that way. Let's anyway wait for the episodes to get aired before concluding anything. Both Sai and Virat are possessive, we feel this way only because Sai had to witness the friendship of Virat and Pakhi always. Virat should be made to realise how Sai would have felt or what would she be going through to see him and Pakhi together and especially when Pakhi keeps showering love on him. They both will cross this bridge too. This is just another test they have to pass and will help them in strengthening their relationship. It is another padaav in their relationship which will help them build trust on each other, help them realise the feelings of the other person and act more considerate towards other's feelings in the future.

Both Sai and Virat are very realistic, relatable characters. They're not too mahaan, neither they are too greyish. They both have their own good traits and bad ones. But Virat seems to be always on the receiving end while it comes to criticism from the viewers.

As far as I've observed here in IF, many have the issue that he doesn't stand for Sai every time she's insulted. But this character trait of Virat not talking back to every taunt and bad mouthing that's thrown at him or his mother, has been shown from the start of the show. From the first episode, he never retorted strongly back at Bhavani for taunting his mother all the time. I remember the first episode itself, she taunts Ashwini that Virat knew how to show difference in respect between herself and his aai. He could have said something rude to his aunt, but instead he simply says that aai is in my heart so I hugged her, but you have my respect so I touched your feet.

Same goes to the times when Sai would taunt him during the Gadchiroli days regarding the VRS approval. Just because he asked Kamal to stay with him for a few days she taunts him so much every time they meet and unfairly hates him. Virat didn't have the need to listen to them as he was a higher official than Kamal Joshi. He could have easily shut her up with authoritative words. But he never made it a big issue. He reprimanded Sai a few times but with no bitter words at her. Virat's nature is like that, he doesn't feel the need to taunt and talk back everyone everytime just because they don't keep their mouths shut.

When the complete necessity rises he does that, but in his own way. His family members , their situations and his upbringing play a huge role in this.

I also agree that, when he gets jealous of someone due to his insecurity and feelings related to Sai, he behaves irrationally. But again he's just a human, people who don't relate to him call it hypocrisy and I'd prefer the word flawed.

As someone who is much older than many of u and has gone thru love & a happy marriage while being privy to many other not-so happy relationships, let me give u some unsolicited but solid advice:

Some amount of jealousy is normal in a relationship and it manifests as insecurity & desire for attention. Usually it fades away as the relationship gets longer & stronger.

But possessiveness is different - it looks passionate & sexy & attractive but it is not an expression of love. It is a patriarchal mindset combined with a sense of ownership in a man for “his woman” & a controlling nature. It is also to do with how a man perceives his own manliness. It leaves no room for trust, freedom, space or respect. It almost always turns ugly in real life. Please don’t get carried away by it!

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Exactly. The number of time she questioned Virat about his vaada and feelings, even called him a khilona. If this is not insulting than what is it ? And now she has fallen for that same khilona ? So why see hypocrisy only in Virat. Why even bother if she actually considered this as a deal mariage ?

TBH if we start seeing it like this we will never enjoy the show nor SaiRat. This Virat vs Sai spoils the beauty of it. The way I am questioning Sai now I never did before because I looked the beauty of a girl who can't stop herself from getting attracted to her deal wala pati. Had I started to see it in a negative way, I don't thing I could have appreciated them.

Hey Ray agreeing to all the points.. but this one.. She did not call him khilona per say.. She said h9s gharwale treats him as a khilona that Could be used for entertaining Patralekha.. thats what she perceived from the whole Ladakh issue and it certainly turned out true later on when Kaku got in Patralekha in the room to be fed by Virat..She wanted Patralekha to be fed by Virat even after knowing and accepting that they might have had a past and now they are devar bhabhi..The family has the tendency to use him for keeping Patralekha happy..She saw how nobody questioned her at all for creating a scene..wasting money..instead blamed Virat for hurting her...She knew the whole them going together on a trip and asking to roam arround with Patralekha since she was upset even when he insisted he has work was atrocious..And ultimately we did see a scene where Virat was treated by Kaku just like she mentioned.. She did not call him a khilona...she mentioned he is being treated like that in this house..for PP.. her observations were so true..

Regarding the other things.. I guess both Virat and Sai are possessive about each other..infact Sai did try to tread into his personal space during GC everytime he indirectly mentioned Patralekha or talked to her..She has been possessive when she would hit out at Pakhi when Pakhi was sane..and controlled.. just after their marriage.. Virat's insecurity comes from the fact that his feelings are not reciprocated and Sai might get involved with someone younger since she does not still consider this marriage a marriage..

The only problem with his characterization is he flips as per convenience..He calls her his zimmedaari, want to protect her and at the same time in the fit of anger throws her out of the house late in the night. Flipping for smaller matters are fine but situations like these are a huge deal.. Even Sai flips a lot but her actions are not life threatening..Both are flawed that way..

Sai's insecurities however cannot be compared with Virat..she has to live with that woman, get taunted by her and at time sthe husband in question let's it go and the family believes that the woman has more rights on Virat than Sai..Sai is on daily basis tortured with that past of his.. Virat's insecurity is more to do with his existence in her life, his importance in her life, his position in her life..

I am fine with jealousy track till they don't go the blame on character way just by seeing the two talking in the bed room.. That will yet again butcher Virat..

I find this whole jealousy thing so childish. We are living in 2021 and not 1950s. Women and men interact with each other everyday, for a number of reason. And Sai is a college student. Anyone who has gone through that phase will know how we chat with friends all the time, for many reasons. There is no need to be jealous of that. Just because Sai is married doesn't mean she has to compromise with her social interactions. That is a stupid expectation.

Coming to Virat's accusations and character assassinating Sai, I will actually wait for the episode to air. He hasn't done that yet, so let's cut him some slack for the time being.

I think they are trying to show that Virat is jealous because he is unsure of his position in her life. Their deal marriage has no commitment and this makes him jittery. Perhaps, once their marriage becomes normal like any other couple, he won't get jealous at such petty things.

But generally I'm not fond of jealousy tracks either - they are neither romantic nor cute. I'm fine with showing A little jealousy to highlight someone's insecurity but when it is pronounced or stretched, a little goes a long way.

Originally posted by: janecastle

I find this whole jealousy thing so childish. We are living in 2021 and not 1950s. Women and men interact with each other everyday, for a number of reason. And Sai is a college student. Anyone who has gone through that phase will know how we chat with friends all the time, for many reasons. There is no need to be jealous of that. Just because Sai is married doesn't mean she has to compromise with her social interactions. That is a stupid expectation.

Coming to Virat's accusations and character assassinating Sai, I will actually wait for the episode to air. He hasn't done that yet, so let's cut him some slack for the time being.

I think that is happening because he is unsure about his position in Sai's life. He is still her deal husband and she still says I will go away. If someone is secure, there would be no such case of extreme jealousy where he will go this irrational. I also think he has a fear of Sai being harmed, because its kind of common at that age and when one is in college. Makers might not explore the latter part though..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Hey Ray agreeing to all the points.. but this one.. She did not call him khilona per say.. She said her gharwale treats her as a khilona that Could be used for entertaining Patralekha.. thats was she perceived from the whole Ladakh issue and it certainly turned out true later on when Kaku got in Patralekha in the room to be fed by Virat..She wanted Patralekha to be fed by Virat even after knowing and accepting that they might have had a past and now they are devar bhabhi..The family has the tendency to use him for keeping Patralekha happy..She saw how nobody questioned her at all for creating a scene..wasting money..instead blamed Virat for hurting her...She knew the whole them going together on a trip and asking to roam arround with Patralekha since she was upset even when he insisted he has work was atrocious..And ultimately we did see a scene where Virat was treated by Kaku just like she mentioned.. She did not call him a khilona...she mentioned he is being treated like that in this house..for PP.. her observations were so true..

Regarding the other things.. I guess both Virat and Sai are possessive about each other..infact Sai did try to tread into his personal space during GC everytime he indirectly mentioned Patralekha or talked to her..She has been possessive when she would hit out at Pakhi when Pakhi was sane..and controlled.. just after their marriage.. Virat's insecurity comes from the fact that his feelings are not reciprocated and Sai might get involved with someone younger since she does not still consider this marriage a marriage..

The only problem with his characterization is he flips as per convenience..He calls her his zimmedaari, want to protect her and at the same time in the fit of anger throws her out of the house late in the night. Flipping for smaller matters are fine but situations like these are a huge deal.. Even Sai flips a lot but her actions are not life threatening..Both are flawed that way..

Sai's insecurities however cannot be compared with Virat..she has to live with that woman, get taunted by her and at time sthe husband in question let's it go and the family believes that the woman has more rights on Virat than Sai..Sai is on daily basis tortured with that past of his.. Virat's insecurity is more to do with his existence in her life, his importance in her life, his position in her life..

I am fine with jealousy track till they don't go the blame on character way just by seeing the two talking in the bed room.. That will yet again butcher Virat..

Does it make less hurtful ? No matter the way she said it, he was still tagged as khilona. If we can get mad at Pakhi for insulting Sai and Mohit's relationship then how is it different from Sai insinuating what the family thinks of Virat. Doesn't matter how she said it, she still used the word khilona for him.

That's what makes SaiRat beautiful. They didn't want each other but they couldn't stop from wanting to be together and think good for one another. Then why make it Virat vs Sai. Both are right and wrong at the same time.

Virat goes extreme that’s why he gets bashed badly from anti Virats, neutral SaiRat fans (including me, I never spared him in my topics) and also Virat's fans. Just because his actions are worse we sometimes close eyes on Sai's mistakes.

I love their jealousy. Love how Sai bashes didi in jealousy or even questions Virat. I would love to see Virat jealous too. But as you said hopefully he won't again make it ugly.

Originally posted by: KJSairat

It isn't this black and white. Your first point - he doesn't stand up for the daily taunts because he's normalised to them. He has seen his Aai, Karishma and even Sonali compromise with it and according to him it's normal. We can't blame him, he grew up with the mentality not to question the golden trio and act according to them. Not saying it's right but it's very human and doesn't make him a bad human. Moreover he knows Sai herself can deal with the daily taunts - he's proud of her and has told her even that she has his back. He does stand up for Sai when it's necessary, but in his own style. Not making a scene out of it - to the point. If he'd blast at them, it would create an unnecessary scene whereas he prefers handling it with tact, he has an unconfrontentional nature. Moreover we do see a slow but steady progression in the way he stands up to them, and it will continue. It takes time to change as a person, usually someone else will change thou perspective and that is what's happening. Virat is learning a thing or two from Sai, much realistic!

Your second point, Sai was also much jealous and so is Virat. Virat is much more in love with her than Sai is with him and this affects how they react. Sai is right now where Virat was a few months back. Virat is extremely insecure, this is the right moment to deal with their insecurities and emotions. Lets not jump to conclusions, we're not sure how they'll handle it, whether Virat actually will raise questions on her character. It won't affect him having her a male friend or not once they actually share a bond of trust, love and mutual understanding. There's still lots of time to reach that point. All this is new to him, he is discovering it and he'll learn with time and so will Sai. It's all very real! Sai is much younger than him and so he feels that he has some kind of liberty to guide her, to be sterner with her than he his with his ghar ke bade - very much real too. He did point out to Pakhi that he will never emotionally blackmail Sai and force his emotions on Sai like she does because they respect each other. And he won't. There is some development in their relation, he first wants to be sure of her feelings before telling about his own.

Unconfrontational when it suits him. Otherwise, he has no issues:

- Forcibly preventing his wife from leaving the house/eating in front of everyone else

- Arresting someone at their wedding without any evidence

- Throwing his wife out of the house in the middle of the night; acting harshly with Usha Maushi

- Blowing up at Omkar because it made *him* look stupid

- Yelling at Sai when she correctly posited the reason for Samrat's departure; sleeping on couch to make statement

But when it comes to actually defending his wife from bombardment from all sides (even from "outsiders" like Pakhi's mom), he makes squinty faces, pretends he's about to say something, and at best, musters a lukewarm "Pakhi please".

I can't believe he has the audacity to question Sai on anything after having abused her repeatedly (and enabled it from others).

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Does it make less hurtful ? No matter the way she said it, he was still tagged as khilona. If we can get mad at Pakhi for insulting Sai and Mohit's relationship then how is it different from Sai insinuating what the family thinks of Virat. Doesn't matter how she said it, she still used the word khilona for him.

That's what makes SaiRat beautiful. They didn't want each other but they couldn't stop from wanting to be together and think good for one another. Then why make it Virat vs Sai. Both are right and wrong at the same time.

Virat goes extreme that’s why he gets bashed badly from anti Virats, neutral SaiRat fans (including me, I never spared him in my topics) and also Virat's fans. Just because his actions are worse we sometimes close eyes on Sai's mistakes.

I love their jealousy. Love how Sai bashes didi in jealousy or even questions Virat. I would love to see Virat jealous too. But as you said hopefully he won't again make it ugly.

The difference between the two is the first was a lie, since Mohit has openly called Sai his sister. Thats the major difference. Cannot be compared.

The first one was a result of spite that Pakhi had towards Sai and Sai clearly understood. It was her revenge..Karishma also has never till date questionedThe second one is how Sai has seen Virat being treated by his ghar ke ache bade.. And that was again proven true when Kaku came in with Pakhi, in recent episode and honestly Kaku made him feel like a khilona and we all questioned that. Even I was against Sai speaking those words to Virat and they both were equally rude to each other.. However when I saw this episode where Kaku despite of agreeing to the truth revealed, wanted them to feed each other just like he does for Sai.. Just because she knew if Virat does that PP will eat. I realised yes to certain degrees he is a khilona to these people.. I had also posted how he seemed less hurt on being treated as Khilona than being told that he is that to his elders...For Sai it was evident during the whole Ladakh episode and she is brash , hence she came out with so rudely. But that was truth. Sai and Mohit's relationship insinuation by Patralekha was anything but truth. Yes I did not like her talking about him like that.. But when it actually happened, his reactions to it, even it was because of the writing , his reactions to be actually treated like Khilona was thanda..and normal. When whatever she stated back then in anger was actually playing out infront of him, he looked less hurt. So what she called him then was a truth.

Of course I agree with the whole, Virat vs Sai part.. I do not like that part here.. Virat's actions has been heinous and hence he is bashed more.. Like I mentioned in other posts, when it comes to jealousy even Sai has been irrationally possessive for him. She has kept on saying from beginning that she wont come in between Virat and Patralekha and yet she gets angry when they are together and blurts out things..

And also there is a lot of difference between Sai's insecurity towards Patralekha who has feelings for her husband and is close to him/her all the time and Virat's insecurity towards Sai's male classmate/friend.