Hypocrisy thy name is Virat Chavan! - Page 4

Originally posted by: GandiAai

There are scales to these things - we *have* to recognize them.

Not all jealousies are created equal. There is toxic jealousy, which results in abusive actions like withholding food and physical forcible prevention of leaving the house (and whatever will come next, and I'm sure it won't be pretty), and there is healthy, rational jealousy, which results in verbal communication revealing how a person's actions make the other feel.

And then we get to the justification of the jealousy. Sai has never given any indication that she would stray, and it is contrary to every aspect of her character he/we have seen. Virat already has had a relationship with someone else, to whom he has promised his love, who acts consistently with that love, has never really dispelled those feelings to Sai (avoiding it when confronted), nor has he ever told Sai what his current feelings are.

So not only are Virat's responses to jealousy more explosive and toxic; they also come from far flimsier evidence, as opposed to Sai's milder responses to stronger evidence.

These are just not equal situations.

You have chosen the wrong post to quote because I didn't compare the jealousy level. 😆

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

You have chosen the wrong post to quote because I didn't compare the jealousy level. 😆

It's being done automatically when "both-sidesing" them.

Originally posted by: KJSairat

It isn't this black and white. Your first point - he doesn't stand up for the daily taunts because he's normalised to them. He has seen his Aai, Karishma and even Sonali compromise with it and according to him it's normal. We can't blame him, he grew up with the mentality not to question the golden trio and act according to them. Not saying it's right but it's very human and doesn't make him a bad human. Moreover he knows Sai herself can deal with the daily taunts - he's proud of her and has told her even that she has his back. He does stand up for Sai when it's necessary, but in his own style. Not making a scene out of it - to the point. If he'd blast at them, it would create an unnecessary scene whereas he prefers handling it with tact, he has an unconfrontentional nature. Moreover we do see a slow but steady progression in the way he stands up to them, and it will continue. It takes time to change as a person, usually someone else will change thou perspective and that is what's happening. Virat is learning a thing or two from Sai, much realistic!

Your second point, Sai was also much jealous and so is Virat. Virat is much more in love with her than Sai is with him and this affects how they react. Sai is right now where Virat was a few months back. Virat is extremely insecure, this is the right moment to deal with their insecurities and emotions. Lets not jump to conclusions, we're not sure how they'll handle it, whether Virat actually will raise questions on her character. It won't affect him having her a male friend or not once they actually share a bond of trust, love and mutual understanding. There's still lots of time to reach that point. All this is new to him, he is discovering it and he'll learn with time and so will Sai. It's all very real! Sai is much younger than him and so he feels that he has some kind of liberty to guide her, to be sterner with her than he his with his ghar ke bade - very much real too. He did point out to Pakhi that he will never emotionally blackmail Sai and force his emotions on Sai like she does because they respect each other. And he won't. There is some development in their relation, he first wants to be sure of her feelings before telling about his own.

Well said. You covered all points. Agree with you.

This is what I always see or feel for every sai vs virat argument that both the characters are deeply flawed. We cant pick the idealistic one among them because no one is actually idealistic and thats the beauty of sairat.

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Exactly. The number of time she questioned Virat about his vaada and feelings, even called him a khilona. If this is not insulting than what is it ? And now she has fallen for that same khilona ? So why see hypocrisy only in Virat. Why even bother if she actually considered this as a deal mariage ?

TBH if we start seeing it like this we will never enjoy the show nor SaiRat. This Virat vs Sai spoils the beauty of it. The way I am questioning Sai now I never did before because I looked the beauty of a girl who can't stop herself from getting attracted to her deal wala pati. Had I started to see it in a negative way, I don't thing I could have appreciated them.

@bold very true.

We should not forget that this is itv. We can't have high hopes from it when it comes to characterisation. And TBH the cvs don't care about it also. We dont give trp to them. We just come here to crib about it. The trp aunties love such family drama and bahu pratadna. Its a relief that sai is shown as muhfatt not some dukhiyari like gopi bahu. If we keep indulging in this sai vs virat debate then its not going to serve any purpose and we will end up killing the very essence of sairat.

Originally posted by: Bana

As someone who is much older than many of u and has gone thru love & a happy marriage while being privy to many other not-so happy relationships, let me give u some unsolicited but solid advice:

Some amount of jealousy is normal in a relationship and it manifests as insecurity & desire for attention. Usually it fades away as the relationship gets longer & stronger.

But possessiveness is different - it looks passionate & sexy & attractive but it is not an expression of love. It is a patriarchal mindset combined with a sense of ownership in a man for “his woman” & a controlling nature. It is also to do with how a man perceives his own manliness. It leaves no room for trust, freedom, space or respect. It almost always turns ugly in real life. Please don’t get carried away by it!

Agree with the post in general but not with the bold part. Possessiveness has nothing to do with patriarchy and manliness as there are many women also who are extremely possessive for their husbands or boy friends.

Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

Well said. You covered all points. Agree with you.

This is what I always see or feel for every sai vs virat argument that both the characters are deeply flawed. We cant pick the idealistic one among them because no one is actually idealistic and thats the beauty of sairat.

There's this "Sairat at all costs" thing that I find perplexing.

Flaws:

Sai = gets baited into arguments when abused from 50 sides

Virat = throws women out of houses

Equally flawed?

Originally posted by: GandiAai

There's this "Sairat at all costs" thing that I find perplexing.

Flaws:

Sai = gets baited into arguments when abused from 50 sides

Virat = throws women out of houses

Equally flawed?

Well most of us are here for sairat, arent we? I am sure none of us is kaku or ninad or karishma fan😆

So we know and want sairat to be the endgame.

I never said sairat are equally flawed. I said both are deeply flawed and not idealistic characters.

I have given up hope long ago from itv to present any lovestory with decent characters and near to reality.saas bahu, family drama, bahu pratadna, kitchen politics are main elements of any itv show. Majority of the viewers likes it also. They enjoy over the top drama without indulging in the good vs bad or morality vs entertainment debate. The trp of show says it all. And its not going to change anytime soon also.

In short, real life mein sai aur virat jaisa koi nahi hota. Ye sabko pata bhi hai. Sab itne mature hain ki koi inse inspiration to nahi lega. They are just fictional couple and we enjoy their chemistry and performance. So lets keep it restricted to here only. Enjoy the show for its main element which is sairat. Bar bar debate mein padke bhi kya hi ho jayega.😆

Cvs are not going to accept our demands because then they will have to change the entire storyline and characterisation🤣 so just chill and enjoy. Take it lightly. And if it still gets on the nerves (which I understand because it happens with everyone of us) then take a break and stop watching it for a while. I keep doing this😆

Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

Agree with the post in general but not with the bold part. Possessiveness has nothing to do with patriarchy and manliness as there are many women also who are extremely possessive for their husbands or boy friends.

Somewhat agree with you all this possesive nature is stiffling atleast for me. It makes me resent that person . Love or any relationship should support empower and liberate.

Some amount of j I can't still understand in the beginning. But controlling behaviour for me is a red flag. This is one thing I will probably not tolerate. I am an adult and I will keep in loop about where and whom I am going but don't try to control or tell me what to do. Suggestions are welcome but to agree or not is my headache

Every person has a threshold and things that they are not ok in a relationship. Pyaar ho na ho izzat aur bharosa Hona hi chaiye is what my grandpa used to say about fam relationships

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

Somewhat agree with you all this possesive nature is stiffling atleast for me. It makes me resent that person . Love or any relationship should support empower and liberate.

Some amount of j I can't still understand in the beginning. But controlling behaviour for me is a red flag. This is one thing I will probably not tolerate. I am an adult and I will keep in loop about where and whom I am going but don't try to control or tell me what to do. Suggestions are welcome but to agree or not is my headache

Every person has a threshold and things that they are not ok in a relationship. Pyaar ho na ho izzat aur bharosa Hona hi chaiye is what my grandpa used to say about fam relationships

Izzat, bharosa and self respect are the main pillars of any relationship.

These shows portray possessiveness, jealousy and over protective husbands as sexy and lovable but in reality its the most toxic things that can ruin any relationship.

Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

Izzat, bharosa and self respect are the main pillars of any relationship.

These shows portray possessiveness, jealousy and over protective husbands as sexy and lovable but in reality its the most toxic things that can ruin any relationship.

No one knows better than me ..I have been thru a dark phase due to this ...it was tough uphill battle