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@putturani

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Posted: 14 years ago

#71

Love your post Nikki (can I call you that?). You made a very fair analysis of all the characters.

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: putturani
Love your post Nikki (can I call you that?). You made a very fair analysis of all the characters.

Thankyou! Yes of course you can call me Niki. Oh by the way, I came to know you write. Can I have a link of your story please? 😃

Edited by nikitagmc - 14 years ago

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

#73

@Niki,

I guess I'm seeing everything they've shown so far while looking at any character's actions/ intentions. They might very well have changed the track 2 days back, but I can't forget what happened before that because I want to. And since I'm neutral, I choose to remember everything that has happened so far while writing my opinions. Varsha is equally bad as Archana; and like I said, Archana does love her baby. But the question remains. Assuming Soham returned to Archana, will Archana be able to keep him if Varsha goes into depression or severs ties with her/refuses to keep any contact with her? The latter has already happened several times so far; Varsha doesn't hesitate to cut ties anytime she doesn't get her way. And a lot of people, including Archana, Satish and Sulochana have enabled it. But that's not the point. If that happens, is it in Archana's nature or character (atleast what we've seen so far) to ignore her sister and focus on Soham? If she can do that, then she should keep Varsha away from Soham from now. He will of course get used to her and it works well for everybody. But I'm highly doubtful about Archana being able to ignore Varsha, and then what happens to Soham? It'll be back to passing the parcel.

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam
@Niki,

I guess I'm seeing everything they've shown so far while looking at any character's actions/ intentions. They might very well have changed the track 2 days back, but I can't forget what happened before that because I want to. And since I'm neutral, I choose to remember everything that has happened so far while writing my opinions. Varsha is equally bad as Archana; and like I said, Archana does love her baby. But the question remains. Assuming Soham returned to Archana, will Archana be able to keep him if Varsha goes into depression or severs ties with her/refuses to keep any contact with her? The latter has already happened several times so far; Varsha doesn't hesitate to cut ties anytime she doesn't get her way. And a lot of people, including Archana, Satish and Sulochana have enabled it. But that's not the point. If that happens, is it in Archana's nature or character (atleast what we've seen so far) to ignore her sister and focus on Soham? If she can do that, then she should keep Varsha away from Soham from now. He will of course get used to her and it works well for everybody. But I'm highly doubtful about Archana being able to ignore Varsha, and then what happens to Soham? It'll be back to passing the parcel.

@blue: I too am a neutral party where Archana and Varsha are concerned. The only one to whom I'm slightly biased (or rather regarding whom you can claim that I'm being biased) is Manav, no one else- and I criticised him too in the post calling him a dumbo and a wimp. I am not chosing to ignore the past track 'cos I want to' or to defend the leads, rather cos I feel evaluation ad understanding of characters will be better that way. Anyway, as I already said, each to his own. I just wanted to clarify that I was not doing this to give leeway to any one character- cos I was evaluating all characters in that way, not just ArMan.

About RED, there are three things I want to say:

Archana needs to be firmer and when she comes up with stupid suggestions, Manav needs to firmly ask her to SHUT UP.

As you rightly said, Satish, Sulochana, Bhavana, Archana- ALL are responsible for spoiling Varsha- its not just Archana alone who does it. Like dolls they all dance to whatever she says and ultimately give in- though Satish deserves credit for trying to control her, and he did it effectively today. Its a combined effort, one person cannot change anything.

Thirdly, Varsha needs a counsellor.

I saw signs of first two today. Archana and Manav were stronger and accepted that they have to work on the situation rather than cry and be disappointed, and Savita, Satish, Sulo all handled Varsha well. Once this is tackled then there shouldn't be a problem ahead.

Where your argument is concerned that Archana does not deserve Soham cos she has given Soham to varsha bending before her sister (an argument taking into account her past behavior) and can do so in the future again- even I can make a few arguments against Varsha deserving the baby, taking into account HER past behavior.

Varsha had rage problems. In that rage, she killed a child and was responsible for death of another indirectly. Even now, she shows signs of rage and mental disturbance and selfish, spoilt behavior and attachment- talking badly to Savita and leaving in a huff, crying with doors closed scaring the hell out of everyone, yelling and screaming that she wants Soham, hiding Soham from others and so on. She has shown signs of selfishness by separating Soham from his parents also. (Yes, they were also responsible, but her fault cannot be ignored)

So what guarantee is there that Varsha will also be a good mother? Who knows when she will go beserk again?

Note: My point is not to say that Archana is better or deserves Soham. Again and again I'm trying to say the same thing- Varsha is no better than Archana. BOTH are bad.

Edited by nikitagmc - 14 years ago

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#75

Varsha making a remark abt Archu can learn and find all the lil things about Soham but he will always remember Varsha's gaud. Now that was hiting below the belt. First she borrows the child for one day. Ofcourse the airhead sister gives her own baby to the sister. Than keeps feeding into V arsha's fantasy about being a mother to Soham. Ofcourse by 4 yrs Soham is not going to know Archu nor Archu will know small things about Soham either. Soham will only know Varsha as a mother figure. Archu never gave her self a chance to be his mother.

Soham should not be with either one of these 2 ladies as they both are wrong in their decisions. Varsha wanting her sister;s baby and Archu giving up her baby to sister. Silly decisions by both and husbands supporting them on and off was totally wrong.

Why could Varsha not adopt a baby from the orphanage? Beggars can't be choosy as she aborted her own baby. Take what you can get from the AA. Don't eye on your sister's baby for god's sake.. She needs psychiatric help for her rage and depression both. She is yet not a right person to be a mother. Just b/c she loves Soham does not make her a mother meterial.

Neither one of these 2 sisters deserve to be mother. Even Sachu should be sent back to Shrav.

Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#76

Bang on right Varsha Di! I also didn't like the way Varsha taunted Archana. She is one of the major factors in the mess and she was the one who started this temporary mother game anyway. (Of course I will always blame archu too for agreeing to it.)

I also agree with what you wrote in the end: Just being attached to Soham or loving him does not make her mother material. No way.

EDITED:

Okay I disagree with the Sachu part. Whatever Archana is, but she is good to Sachu and loves him truly like a mother. Same for Manav. And Sachu seems to love them both.

Rather than Sachu leaving ArMan, I want to see Archana and Manav improving themselves. Soham ke baare mein to abhi main bhi undecided hun.

Edited by nikitagmc - 14 years ago

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

#77

@Niki,

I guess I'm not able to express my question properly. In my opinion, both Varsha and Archana are bad moms. One is always ready to possess anything she sets her eye on; and one is always ready to give or atleast make pretense of giving due to her foolishness, naivete, desire to feel good by "sacrifising" or whatever. Both are bad; and if the baby sharing or kidnapping or whatever had not happened and not been enabled, then there's no question of Soham living anywhere else other than with his parents. But Varsha did kidnap him, and Soham's parents allowed him to be kidnapped. My question is, will Soham be protected from further kidnap or sharing by his parents (they are the only ones who can and should protect Soham coz he's their son, not anybody else. First right and responsibility is parent's alone); or will he be allowed to be passed from one mother to another again? Will Archana and Manav allow Varsha to take Soham again if she threatens to cut relations or goes into depression (both of which are very likely and already there are signs for it)? If they do, what's the condition of Soham?

Again, if Soham gets a permanent and stable home with his parents, I'm all for it. But my question is, if he will get a permanent and stable home taking into account Varsha's stubbornness/obsession and Archana's quest to please Varsha at all costs, and Manav's bowing down to Archana's wishes.

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#78

Savita was bang on and What Satish said was right..Soham leaving with Varsha is not a good solution. There will be plenty of interactions between Joshi & Deshmukh families as Archu & Varshu are sisters. Not a good place for Soham to be in..This would defo confuse this kid and problems in future.

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#79

@Sowmya: Can be done, if the adults behave a bit maturedly. Satish showed a lot of maturity today in trying to handle the situation and resolve it somehow. Archana Manav accepted their decision and weakness was wrong and inspite of being heartbroken and depressed that their baby doesn't recognise them anymore, they decided to be strong and try again. Varsha, though unwilling, agreed to go without Soham. All the elders are also supporting ArMan, inspite of Varsha's crying and yelling.

What I do not agree at all is that since there is no security that baby is safe with ArMan, they will give it anyway, the baby should be given to Varsha. NO WAY! That is only going to spoil our 'miss ever so spoilt- selfish Varsha' more and be bad for the baby in turn.

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: nikitagmc
Bang on right Varsha Di! I also didn't like the way Varsha taunted Archana. She is one of the major factors in the mess and she was the one who started this temporary mother game anyway. (Of course I will always blame archu too for agreeing to it.)

I also agree with what you wrote in the end: Just being attached to Soham or loving him does not make her mother material. No way.

EDITED:

Okay I disagree with the Sachu part. Whatever Archana is, but she is good to Sachu and loves him truly like a mother. Same for Manav. And Sachu seems to love them both.

Rather than Sachu leaving ArMan, I want to see Archana and Manav improving themselves. Soham ke baare mein to abhi main bhi undecided hun.

Niki the reason I said Sachu should go back to Shrav because I truly believe all kids should be with their biological mothers. It was wrong of Savita to emotionally blackmail shrav into leaving Sachu behind. That is it. We will see what happens if Soham is left with ArMan what happens to Sachu. Will Archana be able to handle 2 kids? Will she be able to love them both fairly?