Question to moderators: Why disclaimers in posts?

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nandita singh

@nanditasingh

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Posted: 14 years ago

#31

@Topic Maker - Nice post.

Now the question here was asked to the moderators but since all sharing their views & me being one of the few who added, rather recently felt the need to add the disclaimer it makes me pretty much eligible to answer 'Why disclaimers in posts?'

My reasons - I agree this is an open 'Discussion' forum & all are free to discuss & 'agree to disagree'.

But sure this is not debate forum.

Discussion calls for healthy exchange of views not contesting others pov. but stating yours & this difference lately is very less maintained & thus giving head start to argument.

If anyone cares to check through my old links I never felt the need to add it before, not that I changed my stand ever since but the forum conditions for few of us has changed.

Changed since I saw people get away questioning fellow female members character over their strong appreciation & admiration of the male actor.
Ever since I saw pathetic mockery made & questions raised at fellow members 'mental status'.

This has been & is happening when clearly IF's Code of Conduct stresses
Direct or Indirect attacks on members of any form including mockery, sarcasm, snide comments etc will NOT BE TOLERATED.

Why go far..my post itself which of course is the 'latest & fresh' example of a disclaimer added post contains few fine examples that can answer 'Why disclaimers in posts.'
https://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1667022

Even after Mods note & after the 3 notes by Viewbie the ongoing mockery dint stop.

Now when the members so carelessly take DT's note or warning, me being a member 'only' I felt a need to add the disclaimer for the sanity of my own mind &..not really & never to hear 'I agree'.
It was my feeble attempt to choose to stay away from 'unhealthy' comments only.

Now in future will I be adding a disclaimer? Yes I 'll be.

Since last I checked none of the IF Code of Conduct nor that of Geet Forum Rules contain any such rule that says a disclaimer cannot be added to a post.
Having said that I will make sure my disclaimer does not give an impression that I want to curb anyone's right to 'discuss' as such.

Thank you for the post it really gave me a platform to share my thoughts on the given topic & saved me from making one for stating my reasons that were questioned regarding the disclaimer at my post & instead of convincing me that I was wrong few comments made ...only went ahead to prove as perfect examples to stress my reasons for adding it.

Thanks again.

Edited by nanditasingh - 14 years ago

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@Silentsoul

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Posted: 14 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: -pixie-

I never understood this concept of negative discussion? What exactly is a negative discussion, if not one where another person disagrees with you. If that scares us then arent we better off keeping our opinion to ourselves?

Attacking someone mental level or intelligence or Direct attack on other member thorough sarcastic or snide comments are something classified as negative discussion. Are we promoting this on forum either we should not express our true opinion (given its adhere to strict IF COC ) or be prepared for our own character assault or snide remarks for expressing our opinion which I witness quite frequently . I am only responsible for my code of conduct and but if other chose not to follow it, why I shouldn't be given right to protect my right to express my opinion with self respect.

Edited by kuls11 - 14 years ago

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delhigirl

@delhigirl

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Posted: 14 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: kuls11

Attacking someone mental level or intelligence or Direct attack on other member thorough sarcastic or snide comments are something classified as negative discussion. Are we promoting this on forum either we should not express our true opinion (given its adhere to strict IF COC ) or be prepared for our own character assault or snide remarks for expressing our opinion which I witness quite frequently . I am only responsible for my code of conduct and but if other chose not to follow it, why I shouldn't be given right to protect my right to express my opinion with self respect.

I completely agree with Kuls and Nandita. Many of us have been forced to add disclaimers because of they way we are attacked for our views and even to the extent as to questioning our womanhood. So yes i will put disclaimers which clearly mean to stop bashing us for our topics/views and not meant to stop discussions.

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Opti

@Opti

Stunner

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Posted: 14 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: jyoti06

But Geet forum has not yet reached to that extreme stage ..so here still there r no such restrictions on any discussion post😊

Despite there being no restrictions, Jyothi, people still put this caveat that those who do not agree with them should not post. I dont venture out in the main forum much but there was this post which I read that I felt gave only one perspective. It had the caveat but I chose to ignore it and still commented. I was told that this is not a debate forum and only discussion forum. Here is the link to that thread

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/geet-hui-sabse-parayee/1654457/sweltering-pain

My comments and the poster response are on Page 9. I would have responded to her counter but I felt it was not worth the effort as she seemed to want only comments from people who agreed with her. I think if the dev team comes across such posts it is best to warn the posters that they cannot have such disclaimer and also add a comment for all the rest that they are free to respond as long as they do so within the IF code of conduct.

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Ratika

@-Rati-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#35

IF's COC have no rules that one cannot add any disclaimer & there should be no need to add a disclaimer if IF's COC are really followed by all.
Members are forced to add it to not to be targeted to snide comments, mockery, question on their intelligence & twisting of words to suit the debator's purpose.
Now if such members are to be warned for adding disclaimers then the people who do the above to force there point, add instigating interpretations that was not meant by the post maker & make personal remark on the post makers understanding should also receive the warnings as its such people whose comments make way for such disclaimers.

Edited by -Rati- - 14 years ago

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Binge

@Binge

Rocker

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Posted: 14 years ago

#36

I agree with Opti. One such thread where I had put my views and a member called it "absurd" view only bcuz I did not agree with the TM. And my reply wasn't sarcastic or insulting the opinion of the TM, either. I chose to ignore and refrain getting into such threads thereon for my own sanity! After all, my reason for foruming is to relieve stress from real world and not get into breaking my head thereby adding more tension into my fragile brain. Thereafter, I'd stopped reading such threads which were not open to diverse views. Whats the purpose of such threads in the forum where the replies only say "I agree" or "Awesome post" ?

Such disclaimers only give rise to groupism. And the saddest part is that unlike other shows, where there are different groups for couples, here it is within the couple! And its not about bashing a character, but instead of reasoning or asking ppl of why a character is behaving in so and so manner, those threads either elevate or go ga-ga over their favourite character, overlooking the faults blindly.

Edited by shreya- - 14 years ago

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@Silentsoul

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Posted: 14 years ago

#37

Attacking someone mental level or intelligence or Direct attack on other member thorough sarcastic or snide comments on topic maker in quite common these days in GF. Are we promoting this on forum either we should not express our true opinion (given its adhere to strict IF COC ) or be prepared for our own character assault or snide remarks for expressing our opinion which I witness quite frequently . I am only responsible for my code of conduct and but if other chose not to follow it, why I shouldn't be given right to protect my right to express my opinion with self respect.

But I think before giving warning to anyone who put disclaimer when there is no mention like this in IF COC, atleast personal warning should be given to those who openly make sarcastic comment on other member and mock their intelligence level in their own thread as this thing is already against IF COC rule no. 13-16.
We should first atleast all follow and adhere to all given rules of IF COC (19 rules ) before adding few more.
Believe me if all those 19 will be followed diligently, you will not need this new addition because noone will be afraid of open assault and not need any disclaimer to voice her opinion for her self respect.

Edited by kuls11 - 14 years ago

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-MansiKohli-

@-MansiKohli-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#38

this is a discussion forum and every one is free to express their respective opinions and point of views.but when a post maker is being made mockery they are forced to add a disclaimer to prevent any further bashing of himself/herself.every one has the freedom to voice out their opinions but no right to attack the post maker by mocking their intelligence level(which i have seen in some of the threads) which is against the IF code of conduct.

further there is no rule in IF COC so as to not add a disclaimer in the posts.and the sole reason for the disclaimer is not for preventing people from voicing out their opinions but reminding to do so within the limits of IF coc.

Edited by mansi95 - 14 years ago

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Opti

@Opti

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

#39

If people are personally bashing someone, then the mods have a right and duty to warn such a person but even before any such violation happens, for the poster to take a pre-emptive action is not called for I think. Then what is the role of mods if everyone decides they will take measures themselves by putting in such caveats? Differing with one's POV does not tantamount to questioning their intelligence. If one sees it that way then I would say that that person is questioning the intellect of the person who thinks differently from her. If the comment is sarcastic or derogatory, the poster has the right to defend herself and report such comments. But other than that there should be room for free interchange of ideas and opinions. That is the purpose of the forum.

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Ratika

@-Rati-

Explorer

Posted: 14 years ago

#40

When people see that rules are not followed and bashing is full in swing to avoid facing same they are forced to add it, its more of a necessity than choice. The tone of posts and remarks made question others intelligence when one directly assumes as what they interpreted thats only what the topic maker intended and hit on them with remarks.
Isn't it asking too much that one should welcome such comments to garner proof.

Edited by -Rati- - 14 years ago

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