Question to moderators: Why disclaimers in posts? - Page 3

Originally posted by: jyoti06

^^ The link is old but rules r updated and r still followed by all IF-Dev team members

Now when it comes to disclaimers there r different sections of fan grps putting disclaimers in every thread..so in that case we will hv to warn all the thread...

for example...

there is a thread saying "Only for Gurtians..others don't enter"(that is also a disclaimer..right ?)

Another thread for which your question is raised is saying "Those who don't agree..plss don't reply"(this is another disclaimer)

Then another thread is devils den thread of which pixie(who made this thread) as well as I m the member ..which is also hving a set of disclaimers...(pixie can answer this one)

So in that case if I had to warn..I will hv to b neutral and put warnings for each of these threads and not just the specific one...

Thats why warnings r not give for each and every issue unless the issue is really offensive and crosses certain limits of the IF code of conduct😊

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Hindu4lyf:See u hv a point and u r right as well but then if we go on to curb all these rules then almost all posts will end up with a warning😆

If warnings are sent out then that should be enough to discourage other members from doing it too. I am not asking to warn each and every post, what I am asking for is that if you are going to warn one set of members for putting their views forward, then the least you could do is do it from a neutral point of view without constantly putting down and warning just one set of fans and making them feel like they are being targeted because it is extremely unfair.

...we do ask members not to put such type of disclaimers in the posts and thats why those mod notes r put there as we never support such disclaimers as well

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw a note from a mod saying 'avoid usage of disclaimers' but now that you've said it, I shall keep an eye out for it and make sure the DT make it known to all that disclaimers should be avoided.😉

...but the other side who r putting such disclaimers also hv few valid points regarding how they don't want any sort of bashing in the post which to some extent is also right..

You cannot possibly put disclaimers in each and every topic simply because people might start bashing. Frankly, people 'might; start bashing in every topic, so shall we put disclaimers in them all?😕There will always be lots of if's and buts, that shouldn't stop up from having a normal discussion.

for example...

Gurtians feels if they don't put the disclaimer then Gurmina fans might come and start the bashing..

If they are true GurTians then they will stand up for what they believe is right and defend their views.😊

Then MSK supporters feel if they don't put disclaimer then Geet fans will bash MSK and vice versa

Maybe you're right but don't you think it is extremely unfair to the neutral supporters? What about people who like both Maan and Geet and just wish to have a discussion on the show and the characters? Why let a few spoil it for the rest..isn't that extremely unfair?

Problem here is if members r ready to discuss or debate things in a matured way without sounding mean to attacking anyone ,then noone will ever put any disclaimer...its only when forum is divided and several grps hv such clash with each other,members feel like putting the disclaimers not to attack anyone but to make sure attacks don't really happen there...

The problem here is that your definition of 'mean' probably differs from mine. Yesterday I made a point that I did not understand an analysis that someone posted and this was apparently considered mocking. When a teacher at school tells you that your work is not of a good enough standard, then do you complain to the headmaster? No, right?

Hving said that yes we do not support it but to oppose it fully ,we need equal co-operation from the members as well...Keeping a forum clean and peaceful is not just the responsibility of the mods...Mmebers r equally responsible to keep the unity and peace intact

Originally posted by: jyoti06

^^When notes r given its given in a neutral way only for either both fan grps or for the grp who hv actually violated the rule in that thread...but its just that every member hv their personal favourites and they want to see things from that perspective only ...

I beg to differ. Anyway, now that we have a new DT on board, I'm hoping that will change things a little. :) It's not about one topic, it's about warnings given to members in many topics where it's become clear that there seems to be a certain amount of biased behaviour towards one set of fans. I am not the only one who thinks this but I would loved to be proved wrong over the next couple of months.😊

Warnings r not given at one go..only when a member repeatedly breaks any rule,the warning is issued unless someone is rightaway abusive and in that case we give them instant ban...

In a forum there is place for everyone..whether u r a GC fan or DD fan or Gurti fan or Maaneet fan or MSK fan or Geet fan...all r equally welcome to put thier views and if someone does not agree with that view,all we ask is to discuss it in a civilised way without attacknig the member just because u don't agree with the member but that has not been happening in any post for sometime now and every fan grp in some way or the other r hell bent to attack each other...so unless this whole issue is resolved ...the issue of disclaimers cannot b resolved😊

Tell me something Jyoti, do you honestly think that the issue of bashing will ever be completely resolved? Has it ever been resolved in any forum on India-Forums for that matter? I think the obvious answer to that would be NO but that's no reason to try and tackle the issue of disclaimers instead of trying to avoid it.

Jyoti is governed by the rules and regulations of IF and she is very much right on her points. She is the perfect balanced moderator I have seen on the IF.

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Pixie: I agree with you that such disclaimers put up by users are preventing from having an active healthy discussion on their threads. The users are afraid that such discussions are turning negative and to prevent from their thread from being banned they are putting up personal disclaimers. These personal disclaimers do not hold any value cause we are all bounded by the rules and regulations of IF. This holds true for any forum or any website on the Internet.