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Posted: 9 years ago
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Using age as a buffer to cover all your mistakes is just so wrong and our whole country needs to understand that and the sad part is she understood why he did it .. She was in pain just like he was 10yrs ago .. Still she did not apologise or give away her ego .. Instead she labelled it bachpana .. Sumo just refuses to understand the gravity of her mistakes even now .. They let the juvinile in nirbhaya rape case go cause he was a juvinile .. While certain mistakes can be attributed to lack of understanding as an adolescent some mistakes are too horrible and cannot be considered an act of bachpana and forgiven .. Its just wrong .. But the worst part of it is she doesn't even realise that now .. If all her troubles and sorrows give her any maturity at all she would have understood this by now ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .SankaDevi.


#Hallelujah
#THANKGOD #SomeoneHadToSayIt
Finally someone sees the light.

First things first I AM ALSO A TEENAGER, and I DO NOT see the argument that teenagers do not understand the gravity of their actions or their consequences (that is, the impact these actions will have on others.)

It had just become rather difficult to hear people tell ME what I am like (that is teenagers do not understand the severity of their actions, etc.). And then being told that I'm in the minority for having the basic understanding of right and wrong does not exactly help.
but then again, I respect everyone's right to an opinion, though I do reserve my right to question it.

With regards to your post, I discuss something similar on my live-reaction thread: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ek-duje-ke-vaaste/4592799/episode-live-reaction-3-21-16-let-it-hurt. I have the live-reaction and then a analysis (aka "my thoughts") at the bottom, and frankly I'm too lazy to restate what I've basically said there, so I'm just going to copy it for here 😆. Basically the same idea:

Ok after this, my sympathy for Shravan has just gone up just a bit MORE. This is because I'm putting myself in his situation (and I highly recommend that you all do too, before judging his character in the idealistic manner many seem to do), if something like that happened to me, and the one person who I trusted to be my "best-friend" would've reacted THAT way, after 1.) I look clearly depressed, dishevled. and in need of a friend, 2.) I repeatedly tell her that it's something important, and 3.) I f**kING EVEN TELL HER SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY AFTER SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN IN MY HOUSEHOLD, I probably would've taken it MUCH worser than Shravan did.

I'm sorry but I just CAN'T hold it against Shravan for being this pissed at her, and the fact that he DID try to ignore her makes me want to give him a standing ovation. Agar main hoti, toh straight from the get-go I would've demanded some answers as soon as this person tried speaking to me and jatao-ing their place as my "friend" (best-friend toh DOOR ki baat hoti). And then when she said "itni bhi badi baat nahi thi" and then the "bhagoda" confrontation that re-opened his wounds...I never have and never will support the way he did it, but man do I UNDERSTAND WHY.

And the way she spoke of his personal matters in public, something along the lines of "I don't care if your mom and dad had a fight again!" How would you feel, honestly, if you were in his place, having just found out this awful news about your mom, being humiliated by your "friend" and now being humiliated in public with everyone ALSO knowing the daily happenings of his family behind closed doors!? I'm sorry but mujhse toh dekha bhi nahi jaa raha tha, can't imagine how he actually lived through that experience.

Seriously how is this bachpana (might make another ENTIRE post on this topic), how can you just label this is as teenage bewakoofi and move on? HOW? I AM young Suman and young Shravan's age right now, maybe that's why I see this much clearer than a lot of people. Because this isn't about bewakoofi and what not, this is about simple right and wrong, something I was taught in freakin KINDERGARDEN. Having said that, I love today's Suman, and like Pushkar said, she isn't the same person anymore, I want to know more about what lead to that transformation. It doesn't mean I support easily forgiving her past mistakes, but I do support the idea of Shravan looking into her transformation and now that his bhadaas is out. As for when they mend their friendship, I believe that's Shravan's call to make, whenever he feels like he's seen and heard enough to move on from his past hurt (which is significant enough for me to let him be the character that calls the shots in this department).

Alright thanks Zozo for this lovely post 🤗

Peace,

Kriti ❤️

Edit: With regards to the law and bullying, I replied to a post with a similar theme on page 3 (towards the bottom). But long story short, in most countries teenagers AND children are held accountable for these actions, the law does see them as being able tell right from wrong and to be able to understand the implications of their actions.


All the bolded words were said SO WELL! Seriously people can't seem to get a simple damn thing understood. No one is supporting Shravan's way of humiliating her, but we DO understand WHY he did that and he IS justified where his feelings are concerned. Yes Sumo was young back then but what she did was out of MERE ARROGANCE/ EGO. If she's concious enough to hold a reputation I think shes concious enough to know the right from the wrong. Adult Suman sure has matured but the fact that she STILL doesn't see the gravity of hurt she gave Shravan till now makes her seem very selfish and oblivious to others feelings. All we want to see is the present Suman to simply REALIZE her mistake and accept it rather than brushing it off under the rug with her "bachpana" excuse. Shravan's words may have been harsh but it was the bitter truth, that she in fact still is very selfish and matlabi, no matter whats going on in her life, she clearly is only caring about her own feelings right now without considering his. Hopefully cvs will rectify that and redeem her character a bit. I'm not hating on her, but I'm not very pleased with the way she's been taking the whole situation lately either.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beauty14


YES.
Calling Suman's actions as simply bachpana is undermining and degrading Shravan's pain which is completely unfair to him. He too is a human, who has emotions and can withstand only a certain threshold of humiliation.
Incidents as impactful as these stay with you. You don't forget these. EVER.
So, for anyone to say this was something that happened in their childhood and should be forgotten, I find that completely wrong because the fact that this happened when he was at such a vulnerable point in his life really seals the deal. His mother, a figure in our lives we expect to receive only love and protection from abandoned him. And then when he goes to the one person he deems worthy enough to share HIS vulnerability she throws his insecurity and feelings right in his face IN A PUBLIC ATMOSPHERE WHICH HE ALREADY IS SO UNCOMFORTABLE IN. She didn't just ignore him because of peer pressure, she took his words and emotions and threw them in his face as if they meant nothing, he meant nothing, and their friendship meant nothing.

I would love to see how these two characters will progress from this!


EXACTLY. I agree with every word you said! I can't believe she still can't see what she did was NOT just bachpana it was damn stabbing a friend in the face in front of the whole world. That's damn cruel to say the least. And if after all this she still can't realize her wrong then sorry she DOES NOT deserve Shravan in her life UNTIL she realizes truly the gravity of her actions and sincerely feels guilt from the heart. I simply can't support Suman right now, I know she's matured but she still hasnt truly realized her mistakes and that's what bothers me.
Edited by Lyla.Khan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: longtime

Using age as a buffer to cover all your mistakes is just so wrong and our whole country needs to understand that and the sad part is she understood why he did it .. She was in pain just like he was 10yrs ago .. Still she did not apologise or give away her ego .. Instead she labelled it bachpana .. Sumo just refuses to understand the gravity of her mistakes even now .. They let the juvinile in nirbhaya rape case go cause he was a juvinile .. While certain mistakes can be attributed to lack of understanding as an adolescent some mistakes are too horrible and cannot be considered an act of bachpana and forgiven .. Its just wrong .. But the worst part of it is she doesn't even realise that now .. If all her troubles and sorrows give her any maturity at all she would have understood this by now ...


THANK YOU for saying it. Completely agree. The fact that she still doesn't realize her mistakes by purposely being oblivious is just not right. Really hope cvs change that soon.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: ttt1

^^^^ radha

You put it all together so beautifully nothing to add
Just one thing that it's easy to.attribute someone responsible for your misfortune ,its easier to hurt them with the pretense of.feeling better but may not help , I think that's what the prexap was about


Thanks ttt! Btw I didn't get your name. I enjoy reading your take. Like your writing.

Shravan being guilty for a change was a treat to watch in yesterday's epi. After a long time I saw an adult reaction in him.

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