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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanaia


You all are saying Swara is "too good", "mahaan" etc etc.

Really, she is so "mahaan", then why didn't she pat Sanskaar on the shoulder and told him "she is disapponted but not angry?"

If she is so "mahaan", then why did she said that they would not be friends anymore?

Her mission to unite her parents has become her aim of life to a fault. And being this good, still loving her sister despite knowing her evil, still supporting her brother-in-law does not make her "MAHAAN"...

It describes her weakness...She loves her parents dearly...so she does not want anyone to distract her from her mission...not even Sanskaar.

And that her biggest flaw...she forgives too easily...she gives second chances without hesitance and accept the apology even if its fake.

Thats not being "mahhan" but being a "flawed " person.

Its her biggest weakness that she is so good and thats what makes her human.




because thats the definition of mahaan in TV land.

The heroine is pristine and pure who can fall in love only once. She will bear all insults by the said love but never stop loving him. She gets offended by even the idea of another man caring about her. And the only way she will even love another man is when she is forced to marry him. In that case they will be strangers for 2 years before she finally accepts him bec it is her patni dharm

This is what generally TV heroines are. Pick up any tv heroine and see if you ever find them angry at their "love" who insults/ humiliates them at every chance. ANY heroine


... And swara seems to be going the same way. Is she ever shown angry with lux ? Ever ? She has accepted the fact that he is married to her sister but has she ever called him out for what he did ?

All the things you call flaws - loving parents to insanity, forgiving the person who tries to kill you - these are not flaws in TV land. These are tools to show you that look how goody goody is our heroine
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

I would have been more surprised if Swara had not reacted the way she did today. Intentionally or not, the creatives of this show have hit the right note with Swara's characterization today.

I understand how rude it sounds, hearing Swara telling Sanskar he betrayed her.. but it is perfectly understandable given her history on this subject and I do not mean what Sanskar did to separate her and Laksh.

Swara has come out of a bad relationship, a relationship that started out as friendship and was a one-sided love from Laksh that changed to her falling in love with him and we know how that ended. She sees Ragini and what she sees is a one sided affair that is destroying many lives including her mother's and hers.

She is in a marriage that she knows is false and now she has the added knowledge that Sanskar has fallen in love with her. She is burdened by this and she is lashing out.

To her, the fact that Sanskar could even think of their relationship in this way is currently too much to take. Swara is intelligent enough to understand that somewhere she is the reason for Sanskar falling in love with her and she does not want that now. She cannot love him back, not now. And she was in this same situation before.. With Lakshya... We know how that turned her world upside down..

Maybe she will develop some feeling for Sanskaar later on, but currently, she is not in that place where she can confidently look at a person who she considers a friend and tell him that she does not love him.. And she thought Sanskaar was so different from Lakshya.. So no wonder she was wary and angry.

I like Sanskar's answer though. He told her that he cannot change the way he feels about her and will not apologize for falling for her.

When Swara gets time to breath sometime in the future, she can probably think back to this and understand the difference between the way Laksh reacted when he was in a similar situation and the way Sanskaar is handling it now. She will then probably understand that she has no reason to freak out.

I understand your perspective and I agree to an extent that she was reacting due to a certain amount of frustration and fear of the unknown in the current situation.. my problem is not that she was irritated or even that she chose to react in such a way with Sanskar my biggest issue is with the way the entire confrontation was depicted...

She fears falling in love yet again with a man she has not only begun relying on for emotional support but has trusted above all else with her secrets and her mission.. that alone requires a certain amount of understanding of him as a person.. her thinking over the entire fiasco according to her before she comes to the conclusion of ridding him completely from her life.. does he not deserve even that much consideration.. I have no problem with her yelling, fighting etc I have an issue when she would rather find the easy way out of the situation rather then think and talk it through with him as a real friend..

How ironic is it that she states our only mission now is to reach our destination (emphasize our even though there is nothing between them anymore😳).. yet she fails to realize here is the man who will continue to support you on every level regardless of a broken relationship without expecting anything in return.. also according to me when sanskaar said simply okay to her outburst she was shocked not because he did not apologize but because he so easily accepted her ultimatum.. how different he is from the other one..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips




I would agree that this could be an excellent reason for her behaviour HAD they shown it.

As a viewer how can i figure out what the character is thinking unless you show it through actions or dialogues

Which dialogue conveyed that she is scared of history repeating itself ?

... And neither did her expressions.

She just looked royally pissed. I didn't see her look scared or confused ... she just looked inconvenienced - like dude we have a mission and dont waste my time with this nonsense


Swara has never expressed her emotions fully to anyone, accept dida n shomi,

And now she expresses some of them to Sanskaar.

But you know what, she never said "I love you " to Laksh, she never told him her feelings, she never expressed anything but that didn't mean that she did not love him.

Its a given that she hides her true emotions under layers of other matters.So now she is not gonna tell Sanskaar that she is scared or anything like that.

She has channeled all her feelings into one emotion that is anger and it may be a flawed means of venting her frustration but that makes her character much more understandable...well atleast for me.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am okay with swara saying that...because Sanskaar reacted to it satisfactorily.

The thing is I would have been a tad confused and unsatisfied if sanskaar's reaction was anything but what it was shown to be.

The same thing happened with thapki (I was a dhruvki fan).I watched maybe a month and then after the wedding I had a problem w ith how Thapki was blaming Dhruv, the person who was affected the most after her.Now If Dhruv's reaction was other than what was shown like him telling Thapki and her family what happened with him and trying to bring out the truth I would have watched tthe show even with the utterly unrealistic pairing that has replaced dhruvki.
But because of Dhruv's character being made to disappear I am out.

So I am happy with how Sanskaar reacted ,

I was more confused and unhapy when Swara said to ragini " main gharwaalon ko sachayi bataake, unhe dhoka nahin dena chahati".
This dialogue does not make sense "sachayi bataake, unhe dhoka" does not make any sense.This is a criticism of the dialogue, not swara.
Edited by naran1986 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutyeeedoll

Another thing came to my mind.Swara should have understood sanky's love because once even she had been in love with her bestfrnd laksh! Sanky didnt cheat you ACTUALLY swara. He never said that he wants to get engaged with someone else n then came to you saying that actually he loves YOU. Falling in love with a besfrind is quite normal n situations are not handled this way. Instead that one sided love is given a support of friendship so that he can move on if you are unable to love him back. If you deny this way breaks all ties then that person might lose hope in love forever. You might have broken friemdship if he ever would have tried to touch you forcibly. I agree she s too afraid to fall in love all over again but swara sanky never asked to do that. You are living with him as fake wife. He could have forced himself upon you n you would not have been able to say anything as you are pretending to be his wife. He never asked you to get married to him. Even now he s kidnaping lux ji to save you n ur mission.
Actually many a times CVs give compltly wrong dialogues to their characters. That was not at all good today 😭
Hope no one is annoyed with my so big big posts



Very wonderfully articulated. I have been saying the same thing, this is not the way you handle a situation when a friend falls for you. It is like literally the worst way to handle it.

Edited by CogitoErgoSum - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36
I agree with your post Swaara was completely wrong in the way she handled Sanskar's reaction.

I feel like her friendship with Sanskar was so genuine that she never really thought about how she acted around him or what he thought about her actions. They understood each other. If he is in love with her, she has think about how she acts around him.

When a friend is in love with you and you don't feel the same, the friendship changes. You take steps and create some distance just so you can get perspective. The problem is Swaara needs her friend and they cannot separate because they are "married." She doesn't want to leave and she cannot stay.

I think she like him, when your in a relationship don't you blame your significant other for stupid things they have no control over and say it's your fault. She can push him away because he won't leave her.
Edited by jasmine_anih - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Swara though a girl with modern perspective, when it comes to relationship she is conservative than Sita devi. Her conservative thought about marital relationship and perhaps Sharmista's long wait made her think that Sharmista should be with Shekhar. But Swara should stop making decision for her mother. I still don't understand why she think that her mother need a spineless man in her life who refuse to support and believe her or thier daughter I am afraid whether Swara is gradually becoming Gopi bahu.
I have a different take on Swasan confrontation and Swara's outburst. I value friendship more than anything , but few years ago when my best friend proposed me , I felt betrayed , I felt like cheated . I gradually broke all ties with him. It was painful but I thought it was best for him and me. So I can relate with Swara and her felt cheated kind of thought. I think she knows that later Ragini will blame her for using Sanskaar , for giving hope for him. But one thing I don't understand , why she still feel that Sanskaar is obliged to be in her mission ? I noticed that when Sanskaar immediately accepted that okay henceforth we will concentrate in mission only ,she was bit shocked might be little disappointed. I assume after his confession Swara is more angry with herself for giving Sanskaar wrong indication.
And I am sure after a sleep she will think about Ragini's words ,Sanskaar confession and the moments she spend with him and she will eventually fall in love with him but will not disclose it.

But my Sanskaar is heartbroken. the 2 minute Swasan scene made up my weekend. The way he hold her hand, the way be blocked her, the intensity in his words and look ,mashaalla .
Today I realise one thing if the creatives plan Swalak track again Sanskaar will turn negative ,perhaps more dangerous than the old Sanskaar ,cause he will do anything to achieve his love.
Edited by Kamala05 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: jasmine_anih

I agree with your post Swaara was completely wrong in the way she handled Sanskar's reaction.

I feel like her friendship with Sanskar was so genuine that she never really thought about how she acted around him or what he thought about her actions. They understood each other. If he is in love with her, she has think about how she acts around him.

When a friend is in love with you and you don't feel the same, the friendship changes. You take steps and create some distance just so you can get perspective. The problem is Swaara needs her friend and they cannot separate because they are "married." She doesn't want to leave and she cannot stay.

I think she like him, when your in a relationship don't you blame your significant other for stupid things they have no control over and say it's your fault. She can push him away because he won't leave her.



Exactly. She needs this friendship. Which is why, it was so puzzling that she said "This friendship is over". Why re? Friends have unrequited feelings is not all that uncommon. It happens a lot of the time. Most people find a way to deal with it, and happily, many friendships survive the strain. Some become a couple, many don't, but if people just started giving up on friendships when this happened...well...that's an immature reaction and I sure didn't expect the makers to give Swara that dialogue.




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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree to your post in some points and in some other i have a different pov 😊
I too felt bad for Sanskar, maybe her words were too harsh.
I could see the pain in his eyes when she said that after the mission wo apne raaste aur Sanskar apne raaste jayenge
But on the other hand i somehow feel that everything seems so rushed in her life. She is facing lots of problems and maybe she doesn't have enough time to think about herself.
It's not easy for her, especially when she got heartbroken, her sister cheated with her, her parents separated once again Poor girl 😭
Well i can just hope to see Swara developing her feelings towards Sanskar soon 😳
Great post anyway 👍🏼 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanaia


Swara has never expressed her emotions fully to anyone, accept dida n shomi,

And now she expresses some of them to Sanskaar.

But you know what, she never said "I love you " to Laksh, she never told him her feelings, she never expressed anything but that didn't mean that she did not love him.

Its a given that she hides her true emotions under layers of other matters.So now she is not gonna tell Sanskaar that she is scared or anything like that.

She has channeled all her feelings into one emotion that is anger and it may be a flawed means of venting her frustration but that makes her character much more understandable...well atleast for me.




You did not get what i'm trying to say.

Its not about Swara ... Its about the direction of the show

You say that swara is scared to get hurt again ... Fine ... but how did you reach that conclusion ? ... the director/ actor/ dialogue writer - they have to somehow convey that idea to me.

I don't SEE any of the confusion/ frustration/ or grief of a past love - the scenes were not properly executed ... What you are saying is what you logically feel justifies the scene .. yet nothing in the Scene suggested anything of that sort

Hence the whole scene looks off given the character sketch of swara
Edited by bips - 9 years ago

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