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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am not Karna Draupadi shipper.. but one thing is ironical is that it is only here that it is banned topic.. Why is because firstly IF is a place for shipping lead couples. Now whoever is the good looking one has many fans blah blah blah.. and the one who has done shows previously..they ship their fave with the heroine of whatever. So the most recent show based on MB is Swastik's Mahabharat. There it is Shaheer and Pooja who were shipped as ArDi. So that is why shipping Draupadi with anyone else is heresy. Yes ofcuz, since Yudhishthir, Bhim, Nakul and Sahdev too were married to her all shipping cannot be stopped. But none of these ships can match up with ArDi fandom. And well, it is the show which did that. NOT THE EPIC.

I come from West Bengal.. our version of the MB written by Kashiram Das, has Karna Draupadi angle. If you talk about normal people.. this angle is most common and widely discussed. IF cannot change the world for sure.. 😆😆

So that is why it is banned angle. Now coming to the angle itself.. They are shipped simply because of the fact that Karna would have been better husband for Draupadi than Pandavas. Now there is the previous birth crap which I dont believe.. but obviously, having one husband with most qualities is BETTER than having five hubbies each with one.. 🤣 Anyways, I feel Bhim would have been best for Draupadi and I am glad she was married to him as well although that angle is less explored..

But I have nothing against Karna Draupadi discussion.. I am not a shipper.. but its dumb that anyone else who would ship them and feel they should have been together should be banned or something..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Happy Birthday Sayanee Di 😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh..I have many reasons to ship karna Draupadi.. And yes..love hate is one of them.. And karna would have defeated Arjun in swayamwar also..and as a person Karna was better..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: apoorvaarnav

Oh..I have many reasons to ship karna Draupadi.. And yes..love hate is one of them.. And karna would have defeated Arjun in swayamwar also..and as a person Karna was better..



Karna would definitely have won the Swayamvara had he got the chance to hit the target. But I didn't get the defeating Arjuna part. This was not a war where one has to 'defeat' another... So what exactly did you mean?

And the last line..as a person Karna was better.. Better than whom you meant here please clarify. You are free to tell your opinion abour Karna, Karna-Draupadi or Arjuna, but you cannot compare two and say former was better than latter.. Whom did u mean BTW?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow! So this nonsense topic have started again 👏 I don't know y more than that vrishali girl draupadi is being discussed here! 😕 come on people talk about Priyamvada,Kunti,Radha or vrishali but just LEAVE draupadi!!! Draupadi isn't even related to karna and right now not even related to this show so there's absolutely no need to talk about Draupadi here!!
And@apoorvaarnav: if you have anything like a citation or something to prove about this so called "attraction" between karna-Draupadi then Plz go ahead! Talk about "facts" not your "imagination".
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Myraluvpanchali

Wow! So this nonsense topic have started again 👏 I don't know y more than that vrishali girl draupadi is being discussed here! 😕 common people talk about Priyamvada,Kunti,Radha or vrishali but just LEAVE draupadi!!! Draupadi isn't even related to karna and right now not even related to this show so there's absolutely no need to talk about Draupadi here!!
And@apoorvaarnav: if you have anything like a citation or something to prove about this so called "attraction" between karna-Draupadi then Plz go ahead! Talk about "facts" not your "imagination".



Myra.. you have to accept.. Draupadi's name sets the forum active 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark



Myra.. you have to accept.. Draupadi's name sets the forum active 😆


Yes, I can see that
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't support Karna-Draupadi angle because there is no single thing in Vyasa Bharata which proves that. But as every person is entitled to have his/her own opinion in everything, I have no problem if someone wants to discuss it. It is their matter. Also, KD is NOT something banned in IF. That was a ban resulted from a yet to mature mind who had not learnt to respect a different opinion put forward in a decent way but expects own opinion to be accepted and worshipped by all. If SidT chooses to show KD in Sony Putra Karna, discussions on it are bound to happen. No one can tress pass the freedom of others if they choose to put forward their opinions in a decent way. So even if I don't like it, I have no right to tell others not to discuss. Personally, I feel Draupadi was not the right woman for Karna & Karna was not the right man for Draupadi. (No offense intended)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I personally feel Bhim was the correct man for Draupadi.
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Here is some insights into this fictional relationship...This story belongs to the Bheel Mahabharata: for more details, one can visitthis link: Page on Boloji

I am in a bit of a time-crunch, this answer is more of a copy paste:

The story of the rape of Draupadi by the serpent king Vasuki is a completely new addition by the Bheels to the Mahabharata - there is nothing like that in Vyasa's epic. The nearest there is, is Keechaka's attempt to molest her. Jayadratha abducts her once, too, with evil intentions on her, while the Pandavas were living in the jungle. Another time Jatasura succeeds in carrying her off, with the idea of ravishing her. But in all those cases, the men were defeated, and in the case of Keechaka and Jatasura, killed, before they could succeed in their intentions. But what the Bheel Bharata describes in this episode is a case in which Vasuki succeeds in having sex with Draupadi for several consecutive nights. They have added this I guess to signify the greatness of Karna, which one may agree is the unluckiest one across all Indian epics.

Draupadi is having her siesta one beautiful afternoon in Hastinapura. Her maids gently comb her hair as she sleeps. As they do so, a single hair from her golden tresses breaks off and comes lose. They decide to hang the hair from the window, perhaps hoping the wind will carry it away.

The single hair dangling from the royal window is lifted up, carried far and dropped. But such is the weight of that hair that the earth is not able to bear it and splits open, giving way, and the hair floats down right into Patala where the king of serpents and the lord of the netherworlds, Vasuki Naga, has been asleep for twelve years and his queens, the Padma Naginis, are fanning him. As the strand of hair falls on the chest of the mighty king of Patala, unable to wear its weight Vasuki's chest begins to quake and he wakes up in a shock. He picks up the hair and studies it - it is a woman's hair. He springs up and going to the seventh chamber in the basement, opens it.

The queens realize Vasuki is planning to visit the earth. They gather around him and ask him where he is going and he tells them he is going to the earth in search of the woman with golden hair.

The king of Patala searches for the queen with golden hair in the markets of these cities. Eventually he reaches a lake on the outskirts of a city, decides to rest there for a while and dismounts. He is unable to rest, though - for in his mind is the queen with the golden hair. [It is a queen, and as such another man's wife, he is searching for, and not a princess.] .

Draupadi is now sitting on a swing. The rays of the sun fall on her hair through the window. The light is reflected by Draupadi's golden hair, and it blinds Vasuki for a moment. Such is his joy there are goosebumps all over his body. His feet quicken.

Draupadi sees him and thinks a guest has lost his way and is coming towards the queen's apartments instead of going to the royal assembly. She sends her maids to show him the way. He ignores their directions, pushes them away roughly and proceeds towards Draupadi undaunted.

Seeing him approaching, Draupadi gets up to go to the inner chambers. But before she can do so, Vasuki swings the whip and lashes it at Draupadi's thin waste. Draupadi runs, falls down, her scarf moves off her head and Vasuki realizes this is the woman he has been looking for. He rushes towards her and falls over her. Draupadi shouts at him and asks him to get away if he wants to remain alive, for the Pandavas would kill him if they come to know of his being here. Ignoring her words, Vasuki picks her up and carries her to her bed.

Draupadi screams from the bed and Vasuki tells her he has been hungry for her for days. Her fury has no effect on him. Instead, he orders her to warm water for his bath. After the water is heated, she bathes him. He then asks her to prepare a thirty-two course meal for him. She does so and then serves the meal in gold plates and, while he remains reclining on the bed, feeds him, placing the food with her hands in his mouth. As she feeds him, she wonders who this obstinate man is. The meal over, she again tells him to hurry away. He tells her that when a man comes, he does not go away like that; as for him, he plans to spend the night there.

In the meantime, the Pandava assembly is over and the sounds of people dispersing could be heard. Vasuki tells Draupadi not to worry, let her husband come. So powerful are the steps of Arjuna as he approaches that the very rooftops of the palace quake. As Arjuna enters the chamber, Vasuki jumps up from the bed and gathers Arjuna in a mighty stranglehold in his arms. The fight that ensues is terrible - it takes the two of them down to Patala, back to the earth, then to the skies. Eventually Vasuki defeats Arjuna, and sitting on his chest, ties up his hands and legs with a hair pulled out from his moustache. He then hoists him up onto a peg on the wall.

Draupadi now gets her bed ready for them. Fragrant flowers are spread on it, musk and flower essences are sprinkled. Seated on the bed, the Pandava queen and the king of Patala play a game of dice. Arjuna hanging from the peg is a witness to the game. After the game of dice, the two of them move on to another game. Draupadi and Vasuki have sex, now tenderly, now furiously, right before his eyes. Their games are now hot, now tender and poor Arjuna watches it all helplessly.

In the morning Vasuki leaves promising to come back again in the evening. Before leaving, he picks up his shining sword and cuts off the whisker with which he had bound Arjuna's hands and feet. Arjuna falls to the ground with a thud.

Draupadi comes running to Arjuna, raises him up, consoles him and leading him to the bed, lays him down on it. She heats water and massages and bathes him. She cooks another thirty-two course meal and feeds him. Arjuna then whimpers to Draupadi that this will now be an everyday affair. "It is fine with you," he says, "but my bones break. Oh, how I have to suffer!" He asks her to find out how to kill Vasuki from Vasuki himself and Draupadi promises to do so.
In the evening, back at Hastinapura, he finds Draupadi restlessly waiting for him. Arjuna is again tied up and hung from the peg and becomes the helpless witness to their games.

Before that however, Draupadi through a clever pretext learns from Vasuki that he is not in the least afraid of the Pandavas - the only one he fears is Karna, who belongs to the Kauravas. That night while Vasuki is asleep, she crawls into his stomach and learns the secret of his death.

The next morning after Vasuki has left, Draupadi again raises up Arjuna from the ground where he had fallen with a thud as Vasuki snapped the whisker that bound him hands and legs and lays him on the bed. She reveals the secret of killing Vasuki to Arjuna through Karna. Arjuna is reluctant to take help from Karna - that would be humiliating to him, but Draupadi convinces him that there is no other way. Agreeing, he goes and sits under a tree waiting for Karna on his way to the Kauravas. As Karna sees him and greets him, Arjuna acknowledges the greeting with his foot, raising it to receive it.

Karna flies into a fury at this insult. He asks Arjuna what his fault was to be insulted thus in the morning. And Arjuna tells him: "You, without a father! Who is your father? And you spoil my days by showing your face to me every morning. That is why I took your greeting on my ankle."

In a rage, the tormented Karna flees to his mother, Mansa Malin [3] and questions her about who his father is. Initially she tells him she and the mali are his parents, but when he threatens her, she admits they are his foster parents, he is a foundling, they brought him up after they found him in a rubbish heap. She advises Karna to go to Kunti.

He goes straight to Kunti and asks her how many children she gave birth to. When Kunti says five, he threatens her too and then she admits no, she has given birth to six children and she had buried him, Karna, under a rubbish heap. Under pressure she later admits that he is the son of Soorya, the sun god. When he asks for a proof for this, she gives him an agan-pichhaura [4] and a ball of wax and asks him to go to Bengal and meet the rising sun there. Karna proceeds towards Bengal.

Having reached there, as the sun rises up in the east, Karna covers it up with the agan-pichhaura. Soorya tries to free himself from the agan-pichhaura and failing, asks him who he is and why he has stopped his rays. Karma tells him he is his son come to meet him. Soorya asks him to free him but Karna wants Soorya to promise him that he would meet him face to face. Soorya promises, on condition that Karna passes a test to prove that he is really his son. The freed sun attacks Karna with a thousand blazing rays. The rays pass through him without harming him. Karna has won the test, Soorya acknowledges him, and the father and the son meet affectionately.

Karna asks Soorya to give him his weapon so that he could teach the Pandavas a lesson and punish Arjuna for his insult. Soorya advises him patience and gives him an agan-katari, a fire dagger, asking him to keep it in the wax scabbard given to him by his mother and not to take it out except in dire necessity. The dagger, says the sun god, is dangerous and if it is taken out without a real need, the earth would split, the nine hundred thousand stars would burn down to ashes, and so would the gods in heaven, the gods in the netherworlds, the forests with all their trees and bushes, and even the winds along with all the water on the earth.

As a happy Karna returns towards Hastinapura with sprightly steps, Draupadi sees him from afar. She hurries to him, stops him on the way, and tells him why Arjuna has insulted him - she tells him of Vasuki's atrocities and the terrible misery he has reduced her and Arjuna to. She tells him that Vasuki would be coming as soon as the sun reaches the west. "He will tie the horse to the champa tree and then come to my chamber. He will tie up your brother Arjuna's hands and legs with a hair of his moustache and hang him up from a tall peg on the wall, and then he will have his pleasure with me the wholenight." They are dying because of Vasuki's atrocities, she tells him, and then adds that he alone can save them now. Karna's anger is now directed at Vasuki and he promises to do what she desires.

That evening Vasuki comes as usual again. After tying up his horse under the champa, he proceeds to Draupadi's palace, swinging his whip merrily. He ties up Arjuna as usual and hangs him up from the peg, from where he watches with unblinking eyes as the king of patala takes his pleasure by enjoying Draupadi all night. As he leaves the next morning, Draupadi tells him she isone life with him, there is no hero on the earth like him, she can't live a moment without him and if he must leave now, he should, but he must promise to hurry back in the evening without delay. Vasuki promises this and goes away, his heart filled with Draupadi's loving words.

Strolling through the Pandavas' garden the next morning, Karna comes across Vasuki's horse. He takes out Soorya's fire dagger from its wax scabbard and places it before the horse. Every limb of the horse is burnt. As Vasuki approaches, Karna places the agan-katar before him and Vasuki falls down on the ground. Karna burns up eight of the nine hoods of Vasuki. As his body catches fire, Vasuki joins his hands in supplication and begs for his life, promising Karna never to come that way again. Karma is moved by the begging and lets off the now single-hooded Vasuki. ALSO FROM ANOTHER SOURCE...

Mahabharata/Jaya - Draupadi's confession

"If I had married him, I would not have been gambled away, publicly humiliated and called a wh**e". Thus spoke Draupadi while confessing to the roseapple tree.

Draupadi had plucked a low-hanging fruit from a roseapple tree. As soon as she plucked it, the tree spoke, "This fruit has been hanging for the last 12 years. It was being reserved for the Rishi who has been performing meditation for as many years and he was going to finally open his eyes later today. He was supposed to eat this fruit, his first meal in the last 12 but now you have contaminated it. He will go hungry now and you will earn the demerit for this deed". Drauapdi calls out to her husbands and seeks help but no one can fix the fruit back to the tree. This is when the tree states that if you had the power of chastity, then you could have done it yourself.

Draupadi was surprised and she states that she is completely faithful to her five husbands. The tree accuses her that she loves someone else. Draupadi states that she loves Krishna but only as a friend or a brother but never as a lover. The tree states again that there is someone else. This when Draupadi confesses, "I love Karna. I regret for refusing him on the account of his caste. If I had married him, I would not have been gambled away, publicly humiliated and called a wh**e." Having confessed, Draupadi was able to attach the fruit back to the tree. This little story shows us the hidden desire of Draupadi but more than that speaks about the power of confession. Confessing a mistake/deed/unrighteous intentions might just cleanse oneself of the demerit that could have been otherwise earned for harbouring such a thought/feeling.


Bhima and Arjuna find it difficult to accept the fact that their wife loves Karna. But then they see Yuddhistira touching Draupadi's feet one night. On questioning, Yuddhistira asked them to accompany him in the middle of the night to a banyan tree. Under it there were nine lakh dieties who invoked he Goddess. Draupadi presented herself before them. Arjuna and Bhima realizes that Draupadi is not an ordinary woman but a form of a Goddess herself.

What this wonderful little story signifies is often the main theme of the epic itself. Nothing is at it seems. There are many undercurrents and under-thoughts. One might not always be able to see the big picture. No one knows how God can personify themselves and on whom they might bestow themselves. No one can actually read any other persons mind. Of course, other than that is also accentuates Draupadi's greatness. This is one epic where there are many weak minded men in the company of the strongest of women - right from Ganga to Satyavati to Amba to Gandhari to Kunti and now to Draupadi. Now that would be for another post at the culmination of the series on the epic.

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