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Posted: 6 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: FruitToasty


That's a lot of shouting but I'd prefer that much reading as well...

I didn't bring up the morality thing, that's why when you jump between a conversation you have to read what people are talking about, I was having a discussion with @Ria2794 she spoke aboutmorality (Page 9 last comment) and my reply was to her comment... I didn't bring up morality or anything

We were talking about Mauli and not real life, that's why my example was Mauli, who is a TV character, I don't judge people in real life, not because it's immoral but because I don't care about their dreams

I said "I am not judging Mauli for this, because i understand her" but you are stuck there and said it's immoral to judge her...



Uhhb read any philosophy book meant for the beginner. Morality is quite basic. Maybe try Hegel.


Also i was replying to you, you were ALSO talking about it. Now please dont deny it. I replied to you because you brought up Mouli's dream and questioned her morality

Also its called EMPHASIZING, not shouting. Also basic internet custom.
Edited by looseseal - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: looseseal



Uhhb read any philosophy book meant for the beginner. Morality is quite basic. Maybe try Hegel.


Also i was replying to you, you were ALSO talking about it. Now please dont deny it.

Also its called EMPHASIZING, not shouting. Also basic internet custom.


I was talking about a TV character that's why I gave example of the same TV character, why would I talk about real life situation when I am clearly talking about Mauli?

People tend to find the undertone and read between the lines but when you have communication gap as big as the internet, it's better reading what's written not what you think is written...

PS : Thanks for the philosophy book, I don't believe in living my life according to perception of that particular writer about life, I make my own rules and choices..Thanks anyway

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Posted: 6 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: FruitToasty


I was talking about a TV character that's why I gave example of the same TV character, why would I talk about real life situation when I am clearly talking about Mauli?

People tend to find the undertone and read between the lines but when you have communication gap as big as the internet, it's better reading what's written not what you think is written...

PS : Thanks for the philosophy book, I don't believe in living my life according to perception of that particular writer about life, I make my own rules and choices..Thanks anyway



You are welcome. Books arent here to chane your way of living. Some might widen your perception though.

Also while being on dicussion forum, maybe its useful to expect people to think and reply. There is always tone in whats being written, otherwise words would have no meaning.

And i also talked about Mouli. I said on my first post that Mouli isnt being immoral by having a dream. I replied to.literally what you said. The way you were talking about her morality, i disagreed with. And thats why I explained why morality isnt measured by someone thoughts, let alone some unconsious dreams.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: looseseal



You are welcome. Books arent here to chane your way of living. Some might widen your perception though.

Also while being on dicussion forum, maybe its useful to expect people to think and reply. There is always tone in whats being written, otherwise words would have no meaning.

And i also talked about Mouli. I said on my first post that Mouli isnt being immoral by having a dream. I replied to.literally what you said. The way you were talking about her morality, i disagreed with. And thats why I explained why morality isnt measured by someone thoughts, let alone some unconsious dreams.

Lets agree that we are not getting anywhere because our wavelengths are poles apart...
Sabhyata will run after us will jhadu for hijacking her post, it's about Kunal's quality, let them discuss
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

@Sabhyata

You asked a question and I answered it, if you can point out anything which was not shown in episodes, then I'll take it back..
Dida's lines were facts and this thread is an example of that, we do weigh Kunal's bad deeds to Mauli over his good deeds to other people and Mauli herself... We analyze his good things and come up with a way to prove that it's in fact is not good, he is still a bad man...

I just answered your questions and analysis is upto you and if you find anything which is not factual, please let me know

Bold I already have pointed out😆

Kunal said to Mauli you are my oxygen but when time came to fight for his oxygen it was more important be Dewaana hence the oxygen stuff was just a lie.Watch the episodes to see how hard he fights for his so called oxygen.

Kunal was always jealous jerk .Watch the episode in which he begins to have feelings for Nandini and they go to a restaurant where they meet a guy who used to like Nandini. Just see how Kunal behaves and see how Kunal behaves with Mauli.

Watch that scene and tell me his good qualities.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Bold I already have pointed out 😆

Kunal said to Mauli you are my oxygen but when time came to fight for his oxygen it was more important be Dewaana hence the oxygen stuff was just a lie.Watch the episodes to see how hard he fights for his so called oxygen.

Kunal was always jealous jerk .Watch the episode in which he begins to have feelings for Nandini and they go to a restaurant where they meet a guy who used to like Nandini. Just see how Kunal behaves and see how Kunal behaves with Mauli.

Watch that scene and tell me his good qualities.


When exactly did Kunal say the oxygen dialogue to Mauli?

I have already stated his many good qualities, you and I both know that you would never believe that he has some redeeming qualities so there's no point really
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mili9


Sabhayata, I completely agree with the bolded part here. This is so true. How, he conducted himself in the face of temptations is what determines his strength, commitment to people, his character and nothing else.

I want to switch gears and tell you what my take is. I think Dida completely lost it, if she wants Mauli to consider Kunal's great qualities and forget the devastation he caused in her life. She as a parent may be able to look at the big picture. But, no matter how many great qualities he might have, at the end of the day, Mauli is asked to consider him to be her husband and life partner. He sucked at both those positions. She can't point out that he was a great husband and life partner to the other woman and therefore he will be a good one for you too... That is simply ridiculous.

Let me give an example. If for example, I am interviewing for a job that requires tasks XYZ, I cannot sell myself by saying I am a nitwit when it comes to tasks XYZ, but I am a star at tasks A-W, and so please overlook my inability to do tasks XYZ😲 Nor can anyone recommend me by saying she is a total fluke when it comes to XYZ, but she knows other things, so I think she will be a great XYZ. The interviewer will laugh at my face, right?

Similarly, Bill Clinton is a great economist, a wise and a capable president, a visionary, a great orator, but a philanderer and an awful husband. How can we assume that he will make a great husband, because he made a difference to this world? Similarly, when you are getting operated on, you will look for a great surgeon with track record, not a good husband, when you need a great teacher, you will look for his/her teaching credentials, but not if they are great sons or daughters. So, I feel, dida has completely lost it, it doesn't matter whether Kunal is the greatest doctor, son, grandson, father ( which I will refute in a minute ), HE WAS THE WORST POSSIBLE HUSBAND for Mauli. Similarly, if Rajdeep had been a great employer, a good son, brother or whatever else, she won't ask Nandini to give him another chance , correct, just because he has one burayi, sadism, you can't overlook all great qualities. THAT WAS TOTAL BUNKUM.

But, if we take specifics into consideration, Kunal had failed on so many different fronts.
As son and grandson- he abandoned his dependent mother and invalid grandmother to their means to fend for themselves. Blank calling once a year, didn't pay their bills. Like I keep saying, if this lady had to face the music of having to financially support themselves, then she would be saying something totally different.
As a father- he totally failed Mishti. Pari is not his only child. This great pediatrician didn't even feel the need to have a heart to heart chat and a heartfelt apology to Mishti for leaving her and at least explaining to her in plain words that she was not unwanted. As a savior of the children of this world, he should understand what an emotional burden that would be on a young child to feel as an unwanted, discarded child😡
As a doctor- he ended up quitting his position because he was asked to do something unethical. In principle, this looks good, but don't you have to be IN the profession if you want to do any good to the people. He could have gone to work in some charity clinics, start up his own small enterprise, instead of sitting at home with a lot of free time on hand, and self-pitying that Mauli has no time for him and therefore straying towards the mistress. Who lost out by quitting? Those patients whom he could have served, nothing happened to the corporate hospital. HE FAILED HIS PROFESSION. What a shame that he couldn't understand the rigors of the profession for his wife! 😡
As a friend- If we consider that he helped out Nandini as a friend, he failed that too, by taking advantage of a vulnerable victim.

Even if he was great in any of these roles, the bottom line was HE WAS AN ABHORRENT HUSBAND and for Mauli that is what ultimately matters💔

Mili what you said was soo right.I actually completely missed this point.You could be a nobel prize winner for peace but if you are an awful husband then you definitely don't deserve a second chance as a husband. These things are completely different and don't negate each other.

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