looking at the CVs - Page 10

Originally posted by: pamk06

Sorry, cutting your post short but wanted speak on this.

I think all of us are of the logical mind and hence we are looking for explanations of what exactly happened with Kunal, whether he was not in love with Mauli or he fell out of love.

But then I was reading a post on this forum, and it just made me think that may be the CV's are just following the same concept on which the whole industry is based on that "Pyaar to bas ho jaata hain" May be they are serious about this fated love story, cosmic connection etc. and we are not able to digest it because we are so used to logic. There are many real life-example that adhere to that theory where the explanation is as simple as , "I just fell in love". If that the case, it really raises a lot of scary real life question on this whole concept of love where there are no right or wrong answer.

So, hopefully Kunal one his mouth, else it would be mystery that will remain unsolved.

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

also the post by @Saazhumsafars made me wonder if the language used was the key to deciphering how it progressed so quickly. so was reminded of the bus stop scene and I remember thinking kunal's words were rather strange. at the time, thought the CVs were just being flowery or maybe this was the latest trend in confession scenes but what if his intent was actually expressed there? his words were something on the lines of "I kunal malhotra am making a vow of love to you nandini. will you give me your hand."

actually wedding vows follow that kind of language -- "I ______ (name) take you _____ (name) promise to love, cherish and honour you etc." before the vows are done, there is this whole hands joining...

again, am a bit fuzzy with the details but if I remember right, both of them actually knew they were in love with each other prior to the bus stop scene but neither was making a move right? so maybe the bus stop scene wasn't confession but more their decision and intent?

Originally posted by: pamk06

Ditto, @Saazhumsafars post made me think that may be there were subtle hints that were given regarding their friendship and their relationship that we just missed. I guess because we were concentrating so much on the silent conversations that we must have not give any thoughts to the dialogues.

Also, I agree, the confession does seem to be the end of their dilemma rather than the start of their relationship. His words at that time, like you I felt, were too dramatic and I thought CVs were just using them to give us maximum effect But now, they seemed to imply a much bigger meaning. I guess that might have been the point where they had accepted the fact that they were going to hurt Mauli and were ready to accept whatever fate delivers to them. The scenes after that just show their understanding, be it right after confession, or at Janmastami, on the phone call when he instinctively knows how to calm her. It does indicate a deeper bond than we gave them credit for.

Kunal's silence during confrontation spoke volumes plus the fact that both of them did not hesitate to face Mauli, just baffles me. it is forcing me to look back at their journey and see how their relationship came to this point. In real life, all I have seen is people running away till the storm passes.

PS: How I wish there was a narrator who could have given us direction on what to look for and understand.😆

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

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subtlety is very hard to write as well to portray on screen. one of the reasons the CVs messed up with subtlety is really their choice of music and ticking off lots of viewers with the divine angle.. so with so much noise, it was difficult to pay attention to the way dialogues are written. most of the camera focus was rather on stares and silences...

now am wondering if the language also showed the subtle movements in their interactions but we missed it altogether. did kunal always use "tum" with nandini? or did he drop formal language at some point and start using the informal language more? when did his tone go from formal to a kind of possessive order (like "you do this now" types command with dear ones).. the CVs really missed the ball on highlighting those subtle shifts. that would have been far more effective in showing the progression.

it would be great if we could get flashback scenes from nandini and kunal's point of view that highlight those subtle shifts and tell us how this happened...

a narrator would have been really fun especially if they had used someone like sweety aunty or rajdeep type sarcastic, funny running commentary 😆

😆 whoever wrote Rajdeep and Mauli's Dialogues deserves an award. They were so bang on and to the point. I could not have wished for a better confrontation. It just gave me a sense of peace as she unravel each thread and with that our questions one at a time. It was just amazing.

For Rajdeep, I guess they give time only for his dialogues because his character does not need anything else. But they are hilarious and superb.

I do want to see flashbacks but it will all depend on what the CVs wanted to show us. If it's aftermath of EMA and then they will not show us the past. The story will start now but if they want to show us how helpless love and emotions can make a person than there might be a chance to get our answers.

Sorry, but i did not know where to post this question and this seemed to be a safe bet..😆

Originally posted by: pamk06

Sorry, but i did not know where to post this question and this seemed to be a safe bet.. 😆

@mango_pudding @summerrain7: Did you also get a feel yesterday that Nandini is still thinking that Mauli and Kunal should unite and hence she left him at his home rather than taking him to his house? Is it delusional of her to think that or the CV's?

I also had some thoughts about yesterday's episode and was going to post it here. 😃 Before I get to that, regarding your question - many possibilities come to mind. Firstly, she did not know he was asked to leave, right? She probably doesn't think she has the right to take him to her place and keep him there, especially since he was unconscious and there was a possibility that his family may worry about him? Or she must have thought he would be much safer and better taken care off at home?

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

I also had some thoughts about yesterday's episode and was going to post it here. 😃 Before I get to that, regarding your question - many possibilities come to mind. Firstly, she did not know he was asked to leave, right? She probably doesn't think she has the right to take him to her place and keep him there, especially since he was unconscious and there was a possibility that his family may worry about him? Or she must have thought he would be much safer and better taken care off at home?

If he had been conscious and if he had asked her to take him to her place , I think she would have done that .However, now after listening to Kunal's mother and Mauli, I am sure she would have thoughts of leaving.

Now, regarding her scene with Rajdeep - After watching that scene, I have a feeling that the makers would never address Nandini's abuse and trauma. I think what they are trying to tell us is that Kunal's love itself is her therapy. And his love alone has healed her. What do you think?

Originally posted by: pamk06

Ya, like when she did that, it made me think that she never wanted Kunal for herself, or she never expected them to be together.. She was happy being the "Radha" in his life and hence, may be, the lack of guilt. According to her its pure love too, because she has absolutely no expectations from it. Hence, when Rajdeep started bad-mouthing their love and relationship,she retaliated but she was quiet when he spoke about her betrayal of Mauli.

Regarding Rajdeep scene, I had the exactly the same thought. Facing and standing up to your abuser and acknowledging that it was his fault rather than your own is almost the last step of recovery. It was definitely CV's telling us that Nandini is fully recovered and she has become a strong woman. There is no sign of trauma and abuse in her now. So stop bringing it up.😆

So I guess if you look back, the steps of recovery would start with her fight against Rajdeep fear when they were in shopping complex, standing up to him infront of the police, the famous dance, removing her MS, facing Rajdeep alone and rejecting him,bringing her mother jewelry, or starting cooking classes. Only after this she realized her love for Kunal.

May be,as Kunal was with her through all this, she just started depending on him, respecting him, admiring him, and thus developing feelings for him which in turn became her strength. So the feelings might already be there, she just acknowledged or realized them for what they were at the temple.So, to answer your question, Kunal's love might be a result of her recovery but now Kunal's love is her strength and that is what will help her to stand strong and fight.

I did think first that she would leave but DD made a comment in one of the OLV's that "When two people are abandoned by the whole world and they have no one but only each other, then their bond becomes more stronger". So may be we will first see that, their bond becoming stronger, before they separate.

I wish Kunal was this easy to understand. 😛

Haha.. I wish I had half the imagination that you have. When you put it that way, it makes sense. His presence and support influenced her healing and his love and their moments gave her hope in life and became her strength. The only issue now is Mauli. When I try to understand how Nandini could do this to Mauli, what I feel is, for Nandini her love for Kunal and the fact that Kunal is Mauli's husband are two completely different things, as baffling (and convenient) as that is. I don't know how else to look at it. And that makes me feel I still don't understand her. God, this has to be the most screwed up EMA ever. 😆

Pamk06 - More questions on your last post. See, if Nandini expected only a Radha kind of love, what should we make of that coffee shop conversation? She first said she is not liking f fact that they are deceiving Mauli. And when he responded he will no longer be able to lie, she did not really protest. So what was she thinking? That once Mauli finds out, she would stop keeping relation with Kunal? Or it was up to Kunal to choose? Like what was she thinking?