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Posted: 7 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



in every question she asks, she wants kunal to reassure her but he doesn't do anything. his focus is more on her safety but at this time, he is not giving her the answers because they are going to be very tough. hopefully the CVs do a good job during that and not just leave it to stares and expressions. just like mouli, us viewers also need kunal's perspective on what exactly led him to nandini and what is this that he feels for mouli.

@mango_pudding@summerrain7

I agree, I guess initially when she found out, she subconsciously thought that it was a mistake on his part, a passing fantasy that he got attracted to Nandini and it might be because of their relationship. So she started with what was missing in their relationship as that is something one can work to fix if needed. But his silence, told her that it was not their relationship. Then, if it was not that, then she moved to the base of their relationship which was love. She knew he loved her but if there was no issue in the relationship and it cannot be love because they love each other. But she stops and wavers and questions him. His silence was her first hint that he has moved very far from her. She knows him enough, to know he does not lie and his lack of explanation as well as effort to even try mend their relationship kind of sealed that thought. I guess at that point he was as good as a friend who was giving her support as she processes the biggest blow of her life. When he did not confirm, I think her whole belief system blew because essentially he was saying that he never loved her. So if he did not love her, then it came down to her. Like what is wrong with me, that you do not love me, what is lacking in me. His answer was another blow, because he told her nothing is wrong with he, so there is nothing for her to fix, and whatever she does and she is, is just not enough. The only thing that I compare it to would be to a case of "unrequited love". I think that more worse than anything because how do you come out from this when you do not know what is wrong. It broke down her confidence in herself as a woman, a lover and a wife.
I think to the point she says that "how will we fix this", she believed that he was with her and they had to fix it together but then slowly with his silence and she processes everything, she realizes that she is all alone in this journey of hers. He is not with her nor hers.

I was waiting for this confrontation but even though Kunal reaction was bang on, I really wanted to know his perspective which I thought we will get now. If they do not explain, the only thing that I can think of is he fell in love with Mauli at first sight and she too. May be he never sat down and thought whether that was love or he was just in the idea of being in love. So because he was happy and had a good relationship with Mauli, the question whether he loved her or just considered her a friend, a partner never came in his mind. With Nandini, he was always fascinated with her even before he met her, then his initial interactions, his attraction to her, all of that just added up and pushed him towards her.

Where everything stops for me is this strong bond that they are showing us. So some flashbacks would really help. I just hope they stick to the original story, because this is a mystery that I really want to see resolved.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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pamk06 - Mauli and Kunal had a lot of passion in their marriage. They were all over each other. It is quite difficult for me to assume that their relationship was more of friendship. They were probably very young when they met, so it is possible that Kunal and Mauli both, would have been in the idea of being in love initially. But surely it would have progressed to actual love in the 5 years of their marriage. If not then, what was all that they showed us in the beginning of the show? It doesn't add up.
Sadly, in today's episode I don't think we'd get the answers. Today would be more of Kunal's family's reaction and Mauli reacting on Nandini.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



all of a sudden, the train wreck started in full speed that it is a bit startling for viewers. the confession, succumbing to temptation to finding out has all happened within 2 weeks. thats way too quick in drama watching! hahahha... perhaps the CVs wanted to avoid ticking off viewers and so have condensed a lot of it or that the focus of the drama has always been about the fallout and how things can change...

we might need some flashbacks or some scenes to see or understand how nandini and kunal became so strong like partners.

nandini felt so frail when she was looking at the picture of mouli and saying how she felt torn between love and friendship and she tried really hard to not do this -- -I almost wondered if she will be the one who tries to harm herself out of guilt.

kunal is firmly in the driver's seat of their relationship and he is very much calling the shots. nandini just goes along with his flow. so yea, he s definitely more committed. we also have to consider that nandini probably didn't get much opportunity in her marriage to rajdeep to make any decisions. plus she really suffers from a lot of anxiety and so she really might bail and run if she gets scared or too overwhelmed.


@bold: I was surprised when she kept insisting that Mauli might do something to herself. It confused me whether she was saying this as she knew Mauli well enough and hence she was making that statement or it would have been her reaction in that scenario.

@bold2 : Yes, she does look frail now but I think its limited to her relationship with Mauli and Kunal. Because in front of Rajdeep, she did come out strong till he started talking about how she betrayed her friend. I think at that point, the guilt took over and she just let it go. The other thing is, look at her interaction with Kunal, when she decides to leave the house, when she actually leaves the house, the confession where she told him off initially, in the garden, yesterday when she toldl kunal to go to Mauli, being Ok with him leaving her, and now when she decided to face Mauli. It kind of shows her inner strength. That makes me think that when push comes to shove, she is capable of taking a stand. Her weakness is Mauli's friendship and Kunal's love which are equally important to her. Also. her anxiety has only comes into picture when it comes to Mauli and that is because of her guilt regarding her betrayal (and after she is abused). I guess it will come down to what is more important for her, his love or her friendship, plus the guilt which would be the deciding factor in the her next steps or am I seeing her all wrong?


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Posted: 7 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

pamk06 - Mauli and Kunal had a lot of passion in their marriage. They were all over each other. It is quite difficult for me to assume that their relationship was more of friendship. They were probably very young when they met, so it is possible that Kunal and Mauli both, would have been in the idea of being in love initially. But surely it would have progressed to actual love in the 5 years of their marriage. If not then, what was all that they showed us in the beginning of the show? It doesn't add up.

Sadly, in today's episode I don't think we'd get the answers. Today would be more of Kunal's family's reaction and Mauli reacting on Nandini.


Agreed, but passion does not equate love and second, there are cases where love just does not happen. There are marriages which are only build on companionship, trust, loyalty, understanding and are successful.

The only way to justify Kunal's actions are that either he fell out of love or he never loved her. We need his perspective and hopefully its not only regret at leaving Mauli.

Yes, the pace will become very slow now for the coming week so not sure when and if we will get the answer.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Till now I haven't watched any off screen segments or the interviews od the cast. But I think I am beginning to like Abhinav and Aditi a little more.

You guys gotta watch the below segment of Aditi and Abhinav.

https://youtu.be/QQq_mhecizk

All the thappads were real 😃

And they themselves feel that their chemistry is good. 😉


This is so sweet...and seriously they have chemistry. On a serious note, she is a fab actress, yesterday was heartbreaking and it totally resonated with the wife in me. As the the writer said, she does full justice to "Mauli".

@summerain7: I, too, wish that abuse was not part of this show, because they would have made an amazing pair.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


Agreed, but passion does not equate love and second, there are cases where love just does not happen. There are marriages which are only build on companionship, trust, loyalty, understanding and are successful.

The only way to justify Kunal's actions are that either he fell out of love or he never loved her. We need his perspective and hopefully its not only regret at leaving Mauli.

Yes, the pace will become very slow now for the coming week so not sure when and if we will get the answer.

Makes me wonder, what the hell this love is. I grew up thinking that love is this thing, this feeling that once it happens, it is forever and it is a feeling that will sustain all by itself(thanks to all the romance novels I read, and the Bollywood movies I watched) But adult life taught me that love is a lot of hard work and basically it is a decision that we take, a choice that we make. Circumstances and attraction can only help you single out a person from the hundreds of other people that you meet in life. Attraction certainly gives an impetus to the relationship, but with time and conscious efforts from both the parties, factors like and trust and loyalty come into the equation making the bond stronger. Now, this is just a personal opinion, I am sure it is different for different people.
I have also seen people never wanting to break out of a toxic relationship where there is no loyalty or trust and the only explanation that I get is, " but I love him".

So the question here would be what does love mean to Kunal. And if the writers don't address this at all, then I will have no choice but to go back to my earlier assumption where I chalked it down to a combination of savior complex/wanting to be that leader/provider in a relationship, and of course attraction.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06



@bold: I was surprised when she kept insisting that Mauli might do something to herself. It confused me whether she was saying this as she knew Mauli well enough and hence she was making that statement or it would have been her reaction in that scenario.

@bold2 : Yes, she does look frail now but I think its limited to her relationship with Mauli and Kunal. Because in front of Rajdeep, she did come out strong till he started talking about how she betrayed her friend. I think at that point, the guilt took over and she just let it go. The other thing is, look at her interaction with Kunal, when she decides to leave the house, when she actually leaves the house, the confession where she told him off initially, in the garden, yesterday when she toldl kunal to go to Mauli, being Ok with him leaving her, it kind of shows her inner strength. That makes me think that when push comes to shove, she is capable of taking a stand. Her weakness is Mauli's friendship and Kunal's love which are equally important to her. Also. her anxiety has only comes into picture when it comes to Mauli and that is because of her guilt regarding her betrayal (and her abuse). I guess it will come down to what is more important for her, his love or her friendship, plus the guilt which would be the deciding factor in the her next steps or am I seeing her all wrong?





"Her weakness is Mauli's friendship"
Didn't we establish in first few posts that for Nandini, Mauli was just a stranger who helped her, now suddenly Mauli's friendship is her weakness, why are we considering Nandini feelings as love in first place, the woman fell for first person who was nice to her after she went through an abusive marriage and it's love, maybe it's the same kind of gratitude that one feels for their therapist
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Makes me wonder, what the hell this love is. I grew up thinking that love is this thing, this feeling that once it happens, it is forever and it is a feeling that will sustain all by itself(thanks to all the romance novels I read, and the Bollywood movies I watched) But adult life taught me that love is a lot of hard work and basically it is a decision that we take, a choice that we make. Circumstances and attraction can only help you single out a person from the hundreds of other people that you meet in life. Attraction certainly gives an impetus to the relationship, but with time and conscious efforts from both the parties, factors like and trust and loyalty come into the equation making the bond stronger. Now, this is just a personal opinion, I am sure it is different for different people.

I have also seen people never wanting to break out of a toxic relationship where there is no loyalty or trust and the only explanation that I get is, " but I love him".

So the question here would be what does love mean to Kunal. And if the writers don't address this at all, then I will have no choice but to go back to my earlier assumption where I chalked it down to a combination of savior complex/wanting to be that leader/provider in a relationship, and of course attraction.



@bold: You nailed it with that explanation and what adult life has taught me too. Also, when I hear experiences of my friends especially as the daily toll of life comes into picture , it pushes me to accept it again and again, that marriage is a constant hard work and love in itself is not enough. Trust, loyalty and respect do take precedence which fuels the love that we have for our partner. Having said that, I also know that there are temptations all around us. We are humans after all, and then it becomes a matter of choice. I have seen relationship breaking where the reason is "I fell in love" and also where the reason is "Love is not enough" I have seen people having relationship because they are tired of the environment at home and just want to feel that emotional high again whereas some just want to feel the physical aspect of it. In both cases, they happily go home where they claim, they do love their partners and are OK with this dual life.

Thus, I agree with you that love is actually a personal definition and what you have decided to make of it and what it means to you. It can be trust, loyalty, respect, it can be junoon, it can be fitoor or just an emotion that we use to justify our actions and insecurities(like those people in toxic relationships)

With Kunal,I thought when Mauli confronts him, he might go into those conflicting emotions that we spoke of, but it seems that he is guilty only for hurting her, he seems totally committed to Nandini. So then what was that with Mauli? Just friendship? I wish makers gives us his perspective because being a strong, independent woman like Mauli, I really would like to know the male perspective of this story.

PS: Frankly, I think even makers do not know and all the silence 😆



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


@bold: You nailed it with that explanation and what adult life has taught me too. Also, when I hear experiences of my friends especially as the daily toll of life comes into picture , it pushes me to accept it again and again, that marriage is a constant hard work and love in itself is not enough. Trust, loyalty and respect do take precedence which fuels the love that we have for our partner. Having said that, I also know that there are temptations all around us. We are humans after all, and then it becomes a matter of choice. I have seen relationship breaking where the reason is "I fell in love" and also where the reason is "Love is not enough" I have seen people having relationship because they are tired of the environment at home and just want to feel that emotional high again whereas some just want to feel the physical aspect of it. In both cases, they happily go home where they claim, they do love their partners and are OK with this dual life.

Thus, I agree with you that love is actually a personal definition and what you have decided to make of it and what it means to you. It can be trust, loyalty, respect, it can be junoon, it can be fitoor or just an emotion that we use to justify our actions and insecurities(like those people in toxic relationships)

With Kunal,I thought when Mauli confronts him, he might go into those conflicting emotions that we spoke of, but it seems that he is guilty only for hurting her, he seems totally committed to Nandini. So then what was that with Mauli? Just friendship? I wish makers gives us his perspective because being a strong, independent woman like Mauli, I really would like to know the male perspective of this story.

PS: Frankly, I think even makers do not know and all the silence 😆



Bold - Complex AF. But that's exactly the life that I see around me. I have a feeling that CVs are trying to sell us MY teenage definition of love 😆 I will really throw chappal at them if they do.
For a male perspective, I think we should maybe ask the men in this forum 😃 but I don't think there are many. Guys, if you're reading this, would you mind sharing your perspective on what it was that made Kunal fall for Nandini or what it was that was possibly missing in his marriage?

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