Restructuring Saregamapa for 2006 - Page 8

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If you use only public voting to eliminate 40 contestants, chances are the good ones will be eliminated in the beginning. I think every round shd be a reflection of:

1) Public Voting - 10%

2)Studio public voting -5%

3)Orchestra people voting -10%

4)Mentor's voting (except for candidates own mentor) - 15%

5)Neutral, knowledgeable judges voting - 60%

And no natak related to personal life or love life or maa ka sapna type allowed.

Participants can dance, if they want to, but marks should solely be given on singing performance!

Totally Agree: SRGMP has always been a show about singing. I think they should not sway away from that basic ingridient. Even on II2 former host of SRGM(as it was called then) has been highlighting this fact that performance etc are all OK but kam se kam ganewala SUR mein to hona chahiye!😉

Also get this Celebrity judge out of the equation, they are there only to add glamour🤢.

And no comments like meri maa ka sapna, mere pitaji ki.., etc, etc. SING SONGS and show your ability. Don't try the emotional stuff😡

DUET rounds - a MUST (however, today's world with recording on tracks it has become a thing of past! Singers come and sing their portion and then the sound editor does the rest - including changing the voice modulation!), however, the duet round gives the singer an opportunity to ensure that they are singing on the same METER! (it is very difficult to sing a duet unless both the singers are at the same pitch - the musicians will vouch for that!)

Also last 10 should perform 1 common song - without music! (and they should be allowed to take whatever harkats, alaaps they want as long as they remain true to what they want to potray!) This will tell about their gayaki!😉 And no more stupid comments like ORIGINAL awaaz! If someone can sing in Kishore, Rafi, Sonu's voice and be as good as they are then HEY, give that person due credit. Concentrate on the fact, has he been able to sing the song properly!

MOST IMPORTANT - If a singer has sung KISHORE KUMARS number in 1 round then he should not abe allowed to sing the same singers song (or same genre song) for 2 more rounds. That way you are ensured that there is variety from each singer!😉

Need not be to separate winners - Male and Female - JUST the BEST singer award is enough!

comments please!

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To add a bit to it!

Do not give backgrounds of the singers, their last names (which give away the region), religion, etc. JUST PLAIN 1st NAMES. (Better still - make it bland and rename them on RAGAs - Bhairav, Bageshree, etc) That way you are devoid of any affinity of cast, creed, religion, region! 😃
The other most important thing - NO ZONES and description of voting pattern! 😡 Just say - candidate so and so won: X% votes!! 😳
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Views please

I really want to know more about the meter suggested by Anurag Harsh which goes into red zone whenever a singer is "besura". Where are such meters available, or was he joking? Such meters can easily expose each singer.

Originally posted by: punjini

Don't you agree to the concept of

) Public Voting - 10%

2)Studio public voting -5%

3)Orchestra people voting -10%

4)Mentor's voting (except for candidates own mentor) - 15%

5)Neutral, knowledgeable judges voting - 60%

No problem with this format also. Its just that I dont want public to decide the winner. I do want the public to be involved so that they get a feeling of being close to their singers/mentors.

5% for Studio Public voting is a bit high. Also what if majority of the studio audiences who attend the show on the day of voting are biased/supporters of a particular singer/mentor.

With regard to the Chromometer to track how many times a singer went out of sur, there could be certain disadvantages with regard to recognizing raagas. This was pointed out by either Sinhaji or Abhilash in another post on this topic. Not able to trace that post now. May be someone can PM Anurag and seek his views on the pros/cons of this concept. We need to be absolutely sure that this works.

Originally posted by: dprabhu1

One of the things to do would be this. Have the musicians change the pitch of a song chosen by one of the judges. Meaning th pitch should be different from the original. And the contestant should sing the in that pitch. That way, it will be good test to know how good the contestant is technically.

This was already being done in a round called "chord round" in the earlier versions of Saregama (as it was called then) with Sonu Nigam as host. Many contestants would lose their balance in this round, but in those days, the scoring was so lenient that Sonu used to help the contestants to sing in the right scale, and enable them to get full marks.

No, public voting can't be eliminated because that's what is bringing all the moolah for Gajen Babu and Zee TV. But the voting component can be brought down to 10-15%. So let the compulsive voters vote (but this time just one vote for one person) while the judges can do the actual sifting between wheat cnd chaff.

Yes, thanks for pointing out the omission of Central India (poor guys, they must be feeling left out!).

As for my verve and elan, now if only Gajen Babu noticed all my abilities and invited me to be a judge. 😉 I would never let gems like Nihira, Swananda and Hema get sidelined!

Great job Punjini, But how do u think the initial round of people be selected? thru recorded cassettes or Auditions at important places?

Originally posted by: wmanojin

Great job Punjini, But how do u think the initial round of people be selected? thru recorded cassettes or Auditions at important places?

I would say recorded cassettes first, and from those shortlisted, auditions can be held at important cities. What I have heard is that if only audition method is used, thousands of people swarm to the venue, queueing up in uncomfortable conditions. I am told that the judges get so tired out with the auditions that they spend just a few minutes with each contestant in order to give time to everyone.

That's why it might be better for judges to hear the cassette recordings first and then call the selected ones to audition venues.

I think that the live musicians should stick around for the whole thing.
The rounds the its should have are sum of the old classics
1) A capela round - meaning singing with no background music.
2)Judges Choice - u sing the song assinged by opposing judges.

Originally posted by: abhijit shukla

There should be a round for ghazals.

There should be a round where all contestants sing in the same raga: not neccessaily the same song. If every one has to sing in say yaman: it would put likes of Sharib and

Nihiha and Hemu over the top of others.

The ranking should be cumulative - giving contestants benefit of consistancy - so someone like Hemu does not drop out just because he forgot lyrics in one song.

Yes, there should be a classical round or an entire episode devoted to classical songs from films (which I mentioned earlier). May or may not be ghazals. And if all are based on the same raga such as Yaman, it will be easier to judge.

Yes, there should be some way of factoring in the consistency of a singer. I mean, a singer might sing brilliantly one day, and make some minor mistakes on the next day.