Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 30

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Another doubt from the Ramayan.... can someone clarify the time between Rama's wedding and his exile.....

I remember reading somewhere that he spent almost 12 yrs in Ayodhya after his wedding. And it is also said that Bharat & Shatrughan left for Kaikey desh soon after their marriage. Does it mean Bharat & Shatrughan were absent from Ayodhya for almost 12 yrs???

I may be definitely wrong here, so can someone clarify me....

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Another doubt from the Ramayan.... can someone clarify the time between Rama's wedding and his exile.....

I remember reading somewhere that he spent almost 12 yrs in Ayodhya after his wedding. And it is also said that Bharat & Shatrughan left for Kaikey desh soon after their marriage. Does it mean Bharat & Shatrughan were absent from Ayodhya for almost 12 yrs???

I may be definitely wrong here, so can someone clarify me....

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Yea! how I wish I could read all the versions of Ramayan and do only that and not have to work. The actors lives' are better because they get to play the role of Ramji and other characters from Ramayan. It is a funner (hah! made up word) way to earn a living.
Good questions you asked there. My take on it, the rishis could have had people to give this kind of training in the ashram.

I had another question. We keep hearing that Dashrath lived so many years (sometimes 1,000 or 10,000) years and Ramji rules for 11,000 years (just pulling out a number) and so on. How do we translate this to the modern age? I have read such fantastic numbers even for the rishis and such. It cannot be that, I am sure. How was age calculated in those days and how do we convert it to the modern way to understand it?

Originally posted by: ananyacool

There's one verse by Manthara(Yikes! she isn't my fave😡) in which she says to Kaikeyi that she (kaikeyi) kept sending Bharat to her maternal house Kekaya thus Bharat did not have much acquaintance with Dashratha and this in turn had made Rama favorite of his father ....(2-8-25)

This means Bharat might have come back a few days after his stay at Rajagriha(Kekaya's capital) since travelling was not very easy , bharat might have stayed for a longer period but certainly not for twelve years.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

10, 000 or 11000 yrs of Ram's rule might be a poetical imagination of Valmiki, Looking to his style of writing we can say his sanskrit was 'Flowery' and this style of writing has inspired other writers like Kalidas, Budha-Kaushika rishi eta al . My personal opinion is that shri Rama must have ruled at the most 20 yrs because he is not there to see Kusha's marriage so if Kush and lav were 12 yrs old when Ma Sita went into earth and then Rama accepts them as the heir apparent to Ayodhya then say after 20 yrs they will be 30yrs so at this age Kush becomes the king and later marries Kumudvati , a naga princess.

Some scholars say that when Valmiki says 11000, he meant that Rama ruled that many days again that comes around 30 yrs

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

How I wish I can read and enjoy all the Sangam Literature and all the ancient literature in India

😍

Sure, you are welcome Deepa ji (I hope I got your name right). This Tamil Sangam (if it is formed) will also translate the works so that others can understand and enjoy it too.

Let us get back to Ramayan, now 😉

I have been wondering . . . the great sages of those times have been educating not only princes but also the common folk. The sages teach their students what they should know - the princes were coached not only in the daily lives of the people but also in politics and administration too. How did they teach warfare?

Learning the use of weapons - the sages could have taught them. But how to use a chariot, horsemanship??? - The sages lived close to forests. Did they maintain horses and chariots too? I have read that they reared cattle and other gentle creatures in the ashram.

How did the princes learn horsemanship and how to manage a chariot. Did they learn it from their royal relatives (probably father, uncles or so?), their generals etc.?

If so who taught Lord Ram and his brothers all this?

I have read many stories of young princes learning a bit of these arts before they set foot in their Guru's Ashram. I think they must have known how to manage horses and the charitos already.

My opinion - after they had learned all of it from books or from what theyr Guru had said they must have come home (to the palace) and practised it.

What do you think about this, friends?

If anyone knows how they were actually taught, please enlighten me.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

I was thinking that Lord Ram ruled for 11 years and the time was so peaceful that people felt that it was 11,000 years. When there is not much of activity and everything is quiet and peaceful, it does feel like time has slowed down (Relativity again, sorry, this is the only explanation I can think of 😳).

Lord Ram's twin sons were 12 years old when Sita Devi left them in his care. I thought that they must be in their early twenties or midtwenties when Lord Ram left the Earth.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Vibs, I am planning to do that at 60-65. 😃 Once I retire (have to wait a long time for that day), I plan on reading all the literature I can lay my hands on. I am learning Tamil and Sanskrit in my spare time. I know Hindi. So, I can read and listen to discourses in these 3 Indian languages and English, of course. Until then, forums like our Ramayan forum is my only outlet. This forum is so good. I am learning a lot from everyone.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

I was thinking that Lord Ram ruled for 11 years and the time was so peaceful that people felt that it was 11,000 years. When there is not much of activity and everything is quiet and peaceful, it does feel like time has slowed down (Relativity again, sorry, this is the only explanation I can think of 😳).

Lord Ram's twin sons were 12 years old when Sita Devi left them in his care. I thought that they must be in their early twenties or midtwenties when Lord Ram left the Earth.