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Crazy4IPK

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Posted: 11 years ago

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~Indi

thanks for posting Suchitra Sen's pics. Omg she was so beautiful and so elegant! I will watch some of her movies in this weekend for sure. Plz suggest me some.

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Crazy4IPK

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Javeria3991
@Indi Di thank your for sharing the image editor website I tried it out and i enjoyed a lot making collage on it.
This collage is a gift from me to all the blasters, new and old, ex and current blasters.
Blast of the past ROCKS!!!!
I hope you guys will like it.

this is gorgeous Jav. Can i call you Jav?

BFTP truly rocks and you rock too. Glad that you have become a part of BFTP thread.

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Crazy4IPK

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: samin6
OK I am sorry I was not in the thread for a long time. Guess what- this morning I wake with my worst nightmare. I woke up and heard Suchitra sen is no more. How is that possible. She was a legend for a reason. I remember one line that she said once which was a punchline- (If you have saved once a person's life becaused you wanted, do you think it gives you the right to kill him in another occasion?) I think most of us know which movie I am speaking about. She had some character. I have seldom seen her in movies wearing apparel other then Sari and her wearing a Sari carried with it elegance personified.
I thought it would be good to post a song on her here.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDAyzXC-ayE[/YOUTUBE]

thanks samin for sharing Suchitra sen's video. Plz don't get me wrong. the hero looks like a nanaji. Gosh his tummy is so big, like my nanaji.😆

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Crazy4IPK

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: indi52
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hi sohara,

i saw a couple of episodes of rang rasiya as they was so much publicity. but it's not at all my kind of show. so i stopped. trp is not easy to understand... ipk was also killed seeking trp. but don't worry, this is just the beginning... they might be able to fix things and get audiences in. mass media is all about choice... i am not a serial type but almost 80 per cent of my land is i think... ipk taught me there's no accounting for tastes and people watch what they want to... no one can force me... or them.

if i am to take a very objective view, i have a feeling, the excessive violence and feeling of angst plus the slightly stated sexual overtones of the serial is not working for the larger audiences. on a daily basis it can get a bit much.

also rarely do tv viewers come for the acting... it's the story... if that gels, they stay on... and characters. they need to identify just as i did with asr. and to some extent khushi and nani ji... and how can i forget, mami ji.

sanaya's acting abilities we know of, but i don't think the show has asked for much of that... yet.

let's hope things improve... and if you like it... enjoy, sir ji, enjoy.

I'm watching the show as I found the concept innovative and I loved the making and good direction. definitely it's not something that captivated me like IPK.

It's true that the violence was a bit too much. But look at the bollywood movies, half of the movies are based on violence and those movies have been showing TV every day without any rating. Did you see, the games kids play nowadays?Most of the games are about fighting. I've grown up watching Ninja turtles, Power rangers with my older and younger brothers. The kid's shows are full of slang words nowadays. Of course i'm not supporting showing violence in TV. But what was shown in RR was needed.

I'll request you to watch 15th January's episode, just to see Sanaya's acting. She made me speechless.

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Crazy4IPK

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: DurgaS

Sohara, agree it has a movie setting. Acting is quite good. And Sanaya is mindblowing (felt bad though that she had to do so many crying scenes). But, somehow I am not compelled to watch the episode more than once. Something missing in the story narration. I can already spot some loopholes. But it is different from other current shows, hence worth a watch.

Why no trp? Well, to start with myself, I don't watch it at 9.30 pm. I catch it at one of the repeat timings. Like Indi mentioned, violence has been on right from the first episode. The killing of a bus load of people must have put many off. The hero is no doodh ka dhula, he has women in his life. That must have put some more off.

Our trp audience are used to watch shows where the leads are good, very good people. And even if they have any past it is because of circumstances beyond their control, haalaaton se majboor.

RR may get critical acclaim, but trps, I doubt. But I surely wish SI gets an award atleast this time.

I also have the same feelings for RR, what I marked bold. This definitely is not a show that you can feel the urge to watch more and more. I only can feel this urge with IPK only. I've seen each episodes of IPK umpteenth times, but still I crave to watch it gain and again. And every time I watch i have the same excitement. But it's true that RR is not a typical hindi soap. The concept is new and the making is brilliant, at least better than the other current shows.

The TV audience doesn't want to see real fighting between soldiers and smugglers, but they can see mother in law is torturing daughter in law mentally and physically. they can see MIL is poisoning DIL or making evil plots which are sometimes unhealthy to watch. I think this is some kind of violence too.

In RR, the hero was shown physically active with a harlot. which is really bold. May be I didn't feel bad as I'm not too possessive with the hero-heroine love affair. ASR also was in relationship with La in IPK. But they showed their relationship in a subtle way, so that people didn't dislike it.

One thing is great about RR is Sanaya's brilliant acting. She is just outstanding and looking stunning as well.

i wish people acknowledge her work this time. I just don't want her hard work goes in vain.

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indi52

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Posted: 11 years ago

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asr talk on.

have i ever felt and fallen for a character more.

indeed a thesis can be written on him. especially given the unreal men populating our other serials.

no human being can be 100 percent perfect or all you want them to be. if we are to be honest that is. within us lie our flaws and our beauties.

i was blown away by what was beautiful in him, till his flaws did not matter.

passion, conscience, innocence, courage, boldness, extreme intelligence/quick wittedness, endearing straightforwardness, generosity, gratitude, belief in himself they were all defining characteristics.

it is not easy not to believe in god, stars, whatever, and make yourself solely responsible for your life.

sometimes it is downright scary.

easier to believe if you trust someone outside of yourself, if you pray and give prashad, if you put your faith in the eternal in some way obvious or evolved, things will happen the right way, the bad things will be allayed and good things come as blessings.

asr did not take that path... the terrible letting down by life triggered in him an aggressive defense position. he put up a hard, impregnable barrier all around and got ready to take it all on himself. and he did everything he could by it. worked like a maniac, shouldered the responsibility of his entire family, hardly gave himself any time for fun and games.

he did almost everything for others, especially for the sister he loved more than himself in many ways.

to me this is a man praying his way.

and he was a survivor. with the scars of one.

those who loved him, his family, and maybe op (😳) and aman, knew exactly what a lovely man he was. yes he was stubborn and prone to crazy gussa, but inside him a pure beauty, an absolute giving caring person. oh i can quite quite understand why la felt that funny love for him and was willing to eat even stuff that gave her allergy just to make him happy, she was not just excited about his money and position... she was excited by his fearless, towering personality, and she sensed his tenderness, the combination has me passing out as i even think of it.

and what i loved hugely was that khushi fell in love with this man... who was not exactly the man she had imagined she'd love. but this one, with all his strange weird awful ways. there is an inherent excitement in this man, which almost anyone would feel, even those who disapprove of his ways. rakshas and laad governor is the one whom she got tired of hating and felt stirrings of a passion for that would not be abated, not even when he raved and ranted, not even when he forced her to do terrible stuff and constantly berated her. not even when he accused her of being a home breaker, a woman having an affair with his creepy bro in law. not. even. then.

all she wanted to do was prove to him that was not the case. she could tell how hurt he felt because of that misunderstanding... she needed to assuage his pain because he had become important to her, part of her...

that is the force of this character.

one of the most touching and telling things was his relationship with mami. the lady who gave her jewellery for his business, who loved him like her own and respected him. the crass woman whom the established raizada khandan might have found hard to accept. he felt her love, he somewhere understood her. completely. her need for power. her need for love. her essentially caring nature. he loved her dammit. uff that scene where without a word he buys the necklace she wants and sends it through di... he can't bear to see mami upset or feeling like she is not respected. whatever she might be, she is his aunt who loves him, he has a funny love for her too. lovely.

just like his nani is he in this astute understanding of character. in 211, he handles mami's hysteria, tells her to go relax... when she mumbles, "tumre liye," a curt really cute, "haan! mere liye," he knows she needs an out and gives it to her.

i have often wondered how this astute, perceptive man made such a mistake when it came to khushi on the terrace. was that trigger enough, did the story tellers choose their reason for his blinding rage well?

othello came to mind. the word "credulous" from eng lit classes. yes credulous, the opposite of astute/smart/thinking he became suddenly only for two reasons: because he loved her madly and because he was so insecure about loving, almost believing betrayal was around the corner.

his father's philandering and his belief that his mother killed herself because of that, undid many things in him, leaving a damaged part that had never been healed. he did not want to love. he did not trust love. and yet he did love. and then, suddenly like a self fulfilling prophecy his worst nightmare seemed to come true... there stood betrayal... the one he loved in another's arms... and while he watched, she exhorted this man to leave his sister.

when he saw her with shyam, chhap gaya hai dimaag mein... the mind stopped functioning, the heart broke, he went crazy.

gussa was his gear, his weapon always, this time he wore it like an armour, covered everything with it, body, head, eyes, lips, ears, and acted with full asr might.

only his heart, kambakht refused to be covered.

now this nuance, anyone might have written in, gul, gautam, whoever, but could anyone other than barun communicated it it with such poignancy, such presence? i know my answer 😳, asr ultimately was given life by barun... not the writers.

yes, they presented an interesting framework... but we must remember, the character had hardly any dialogues that revealed him. that job... to present the complexity, to feel the taciturn character and express him as he is, that was left to the actor finally.

i can't imagine forgiving anyone else that dragging to the temple, that laying down of ultimatums. and here, not only did i not want to hold khushi's hand and take her away from him and tell her "no need to love that brute," i wanted her to be near him... because i could sense he needed her desperately at that moment. i also felt bad for asr, really bad... not only for kkg. that was really the actor's doing.

i also believe barun made asr much more complex, nuanced, and unutterably sexy by playing him the way he did, he made asr more than what was written. okay, barun is naturally an attractive man who has that turn on factor... i am glad he used it to the hilt to make asr lovely. saw 347 where he proposes... will you marry me, a silly hackneyed line, how he used barun's sexiness and asr's keen mind to make it heartstoppingly real.

in plays and books, characters are told by their words and action. here there was action and silence, just things in the eyes, the jaws, the turn of head, a little smirk, a little darkening of chocolate... what the, dammit, bas, khushi, tum theek ho? seatbelt, get out, toh tum khush ho? became memorable quotes, say them and dhak dhak sure to unleash. because i love you dammit. can that ever be said without feeling ears flame, pulse race, a picture of angry eyes and voice flashing in the head.

years ago salim javed assessed the mind of the audience and wrote the angry young man... but if amitabh b had not brought that man to life and made him more with his interpretation, his intensity, hi voice, his droopy piercing unblinking eyes, his tall unyielding presence, his way of speaking, his way of pausing, and so much more would that angry young man become the concept he became? an actor's contribution in creating a character that is performed is invaluable, crucial. not everything is written in, the actor fills in the gaps and makes the character what it is. shakespeare's othello is beautifully written... but it is not enough to be a big dark man and mouth the lines to get the man.

on that terrace doorway, his heart broke to smithereens. he resorted to aggressive defence. sab kuch mere control mein hai. and again he learned... uh huh, everything is not in your control, especially your heart.

there was a destructive anger, an insecurity and vulnerability about loved ones that played hell into his and her lives, a certain "cut off" from the world around that interfered with empathy... and an extreme stroke of that belief in himself thing combined with a sense terrible chaos ignited the day of his parents' death... he believed everything was in his control.

life would of course go out of its way to show him otherwise.

and yet, he did not succumb, instead intelligently assessed and learned and tried to grow within that experience.

within him is the inherent mark of a larger than life, striding, extraordinary character. he reminds me of great individualistic heroes. i accept him as he is, with his every flaw.

that anger i would love to know more about, and if he could learn to control that a bit i'd be happy for him. but don't control it too much, i'd say, then it would come out in some other ugly way... i hope love will heal him somewhat, and there will come a day when he would have his nightmare less frequently. i am quite happy to hear him talk the way he did on karwa chauth and then try and respect his wife's point of view but not become her clone. i have a feeling his wife likes him exactly as he is. the way he likes her as she is.

there will be fights between them no doubt, parts of him will remain unresolved... but he will add texture i know, and who knows exactly as she'd predicted, maybe one day he'll come home with two young women on his arms and tell kkgsr, get out, you're too old for me. ha ha just kidding.

he would grow old fabulously, remaining sexy beyond belief at even 95 i believe.

i thought i would write two lines on that man of few words. look what he made me do. yeh asr bhi na... i hate you, dammit.

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aarwen

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: indi52
asr talk on.
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Indi I could highlight every word you just wrote..❤️

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indi52

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Posted: 11 years ago

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sohara,

regarding RR, first, okay i am going to see 15 jan episode, just because you are asking me to.

i also agree with you that violence is a part of life... and saas bahu stuff is no less violent. in fact, i find the whole saas bahu genre pathetic and almost evil... since it keeps women tied to the ugliest posts of patriarchy and feudalism. we also play at being "modern" here without upsetting the status quo. not my thing.

in RR the violence is more obvious and watching people get shot and blown spewing tomato ketchup blood may be a bit much on a daily basis.

but really that is not the point for me... it finally is about chemistry. if it sparks something in me, i watch it. i have loved hannibal, the weird violence of pulp fiction, the "incorrect" love of lolita. i am snot squeamish.

but RR did not touch me at all. including sanaya. in fact, her agreeing to wear those unnecessarily navel showing clothes surprised me. i did not find ashish sexy, though i am sure he is a good actor and seems like a most decent human being.

i have no problems with a man having a relationship with a sex worker... if that is the character and that is its stage of life, no problem. in fact, if they had shown asr in more intimacy with la too i would watch if it clicked with me.

it is all about that chemistry between me and what's on screen.

usually that does not happen with tv.

ipk was an accident. i may never recover.😳

but 15 jan, zaroor dekhenge, because i ❤️ you. and you know, khushi was brilliantly portrayed by sanaya, no one can take that away. award or no award...this is a character that will not be forgotten for a long long time. that is the real award.

soon after doing khushi sanaya said chanchan was more real than khushi. i found that strange, after working so hard to make khsuhi believable... the actor felt that? the other day i heard her say in an interview that parvati is more difficult, and somehow more challenging than khushi. i smiled to myself and thought, some day you will be ready to love khushi as the one.

khushi was not easy to play. it is tougher to make people laugh and yet be taken seriously, than to make them cry.

a rare sense of humour and candour this actress has, also a capability to understand and express nuanced feelings of all kinds. the day sanaya decides she is hungry enough to go out there and take the stage, no one can stop her. i wish her well and hope RR gives her what she is seeking.

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indi52

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: aarwen

Indi I could highlight every word you just wrote..❤️

thanks so much, aarwen... i do so miss this character and this actor. both were rare.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: sohara

I'm watching the show as I found the concept innovative and I loved the making and good direction. definitely it's not something that captivated me like IPK.
It's true that the violence was a bit too much. But look at the bollywood movies, half of the movies are based on violence and those movies have been showing TV every day without any rating. Did you see, the games kids play nowadays?Most of the games are about fighting. I've grown up watching Ninja turtles, Power rangers with my older and younger brothers. The kid's shows are full of slang words nowadays. Of course i'm not supporting showing violence in TV. But what was shown in RR was needed.
I'll request you to watch 15th January's episode, just to see Sanaya's acting. She made me speechless.

15th jan...it was the epi where she is put into a room...nd she cries her heart out right nd keeps convincin herself herself tht everything is fine???

yeah i agree tht really good actin

m yet to watch thurdays nd fridays episode will watch on weekend...
the one thing i really appreciate abt Colors tv is tht they uploade every episode of their on Youtube nd id doens get band...i really lik tht fact

nd abt RR not gettin TRP...Dish tv hav banned colors from their subscription nd thts really takin the toll on colors channel