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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/qubool-hai/3822013/mr-khan-your-abbu-came-for-you Mr. Khan, Your Abbu Came for you...
Hi all,
Since I was greeted with an amazing 8 page response there, I thought I will reply in common since many of the queries were the same...
I know we all agree to disagree at some point or the other...just what I felt about these..
Thank U all of U who responded and appreciated the post...😆
I hope no one is going to bash my joblessness...😳😆
I have just CPed from some of the posts...and replied...hope no one is offended.😳
Apologise for the mistakes too...
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'The point of conflict is not whether Dilshad has the right to take wrong decision or not. That ofcourse she has. The point of conflict is that she is taking that wrong decision at what expense and is giving second chance to whom? What has Rashid done to deserve this forgiveness? Rashid remained a silent spectator when Asad was being cursed, he did not utter a word when Haseena was being unjust to Nazma in his house.
And to be honest, I do not understand that in what manner does his actions seem to prove that he is 'amending his mistakes'.
I was disgusted at the way he came to KV and claimed to be Dilshad's husband.
Only God knows that how exactly would Dilshad spend even a single day in SM peacefully or happily. '
And to be honest, I do not understand that in what manner does his actions seem to prove that he is 'amending his mistakes'.
I was disgusted at the way he came to KV and claimed to be Dilshad's husband.
Only God knows that how exactly would Dilshad spend even a single day in SM peacefully or happily. '
Rashid remained a silent spectator when Asad was cursed because there is no point justifying Asad or Dilshad to Shireen...IT ONLY MAKES HER HATE THEM BOTH. Best is to shut up, when you know the person who is talking makes no sense and will never understand.
'Amending his mistakes'...
What can he do to amend his mistakes?
Stand up firmly and tell Shireen that Dilshad means a lot to him?- That he has done. Finally, he has decided to ignore the drama and tell her in no uncertain terms WHAT HE ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY.
Apologise to Asad for all he has done?...that he has done too, always...it is just that Asad will never forgive...as far as he is concerned, HE WANTS ONLY ONE THING FROM RASHID AHMED KHAN...KEEP OUT OF MY LIFE...I DON'T WANT APOLOGIES OR PROMISES...diametrically opposite to what Dilshad wants from Rashid. Dilshad has always wanted Rashid back, because she knows HE LOVES HER, in spite of his infidelity.
Will Dilshad spend a single day in SM happily?- Of course not...Is she supposed to? I guess thsi twist is only for a few days to get Ayan out of the show, and Dilshad herself will decide that Rashid's plan is a failure since he cannot get Shireen's consent in this. She will see how Rashid's and her decision has disrupted the lives of all their children...and she will choose the children- BOTH HERS and SHIREEN'S, over her own happiness...
Dilshad can be Rashid's only when Shireen comes to her and places her hand in Rashid's...could have happened post jail, with the love she felt at Holi...not anymore. Now Shireen sees only a woman out to take revenge from a man who destroyed her life...aided by her scheming,deceptive son.
For me, this equation between the two wives has been written very well by the team.👏👏👏
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'1. He had killed a lady in the factory - Is he repenting for it? Did he surrender to the police or tell the police what the whole Gudiya Ghar thing was for?
2. He destroyed Asad and Najma's childhood - Is he repenting for it? Did he make any amends for it?
3. He was kept as a Slave by the Siddiques - Did he revolt?
We understand he wants to make up for the mistakes of past, but then did he redeem himself in front of the main person i.e. Asad yet? wasn't Asad his first priority ? '
1. Rashid's greatest wrong was done to Dilshad...and she is correcting that. The lady could have been a beggar or a prostitute...what was she doing in a toy factory anyway? And how come no one came searching for her? Yes he hid the body in his immaturity...but to him, that crime is nothing compared to the crime he committed to Dilshad...This was in innocence, the other was knowingly...what he should own up to. Each person has their own morals to living. He killed someone accidentally, and could go to jail for it...he might just shut up and pray to God that he judges him. God will serve better justice than a corrupt system.
2. How can he make amends to it? He can only say he is sorry...which he is saying...over and over...Najma has forgiven her father, Asad has not.
3. Revolting: Again, let us not go into the past...he is revolting NOW.😉😆
4. Redeeming himself in front of Asad- requires that he slits his throat in front of him and says, take my life in return for what I have done to you...going to make a fat lot of good...glad Rashid is not Shireen yet.😆
And about Zoya eating her words when Gafy's truth is revealed...again I tyhink it is Zoya's response in this matter that could open Asad's blind eye...let us see.' Forgiveness' is a trait that si difficult to embrace...and could again be the bone of contention between two lovers as it was in another love story.😉
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' tell me one thing how will everything be alright by taking dilshad your ex wife in sm .
this is such a disgusting selfish and cheap thing to do .
talking about dilshad ,rashid was not leaving asad ,he was leaving dilshad but asad left all comforts and happiness for just being with his mother and curing her grief .and now the same mother is leaving that son for the same man and that too without informing him .
and lastly talking about zoya ,
she does not even remember her abbu betrayal and anything else about her childhood and asad has witnessed each and everything with his own naked eyes .
then on what basis she is preaching this to asad .'
this is such a disgusting selfish and cheap thing to do .
talking about dilshad ,rashid was not leaving asad ,he was leaving dilshad but asad left all comforts and happiness for just being with his mother and curing her grief .and now the same mother is leaving that son for the same man and that too without informing him .
and lastly talking about zoya ,
she does not even remember her abbu betrayal and anything else about her childhood and asad has witnessed each and everything with his own naked eyes .
then on what basis she is preaching this to asad .'
What is the end of QH...what is the solution to Radil- Shireen triangle..?
All three will have to live under the same roof with their children...there is no QUESTION about this...do u think THAT ALL MUSLIM MEN WITH MORE THAN A WIFE, WILL LEAVE ONE WIFE FOR THE OTHER? HE IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK AFTER THEM ALL EQUALLY WELL...Rashid is not the first man on earth to have two wives...😆
The same mother has tried telling in SO MANY WORDS WHAT SHE WANTS...HER SON PREFERS TO BE BLIND AND DEAF...when people are that, THEY NEED A SHOCK TO WAKE UP TO REALITY...Sad, but true.😳 Sorry.😊
Zoya- remebers everything...she has come allthe way from US for a man who left his pregnant wife, and never looked back...LEAVING ALL THE COMFORTS OF HER LIFE and a loving AAPI AND JEEJU for a man SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT...she knows not what he is like...yet she is willing to seek him and GIVE HIM A SECOND CHANCE...IF HE WANTS THAT.👏 Never undermine the GENEROSITY OF A GIRL WHO HAS PLUCKED HERSELF OUT OF HER COMFORT ZONE for what she is uncertain about.😳
If Asad has witnessed each and everything with his naked eyes...what has Zoya witnessed?
1. She has seen Rashid praying for the love he CAN NEVER GET BACK.
2. She has seen the tears of a father who could not gift and wish his son each and every birthday, because he did not have the courage to right his wrongs.
3. She has seen a man finally waking up to his responsibility, telling Ayan that THEY ALL HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE TO ACCOMMODATE...and now she knows that major change- that last thing he wants to do is- GIVE PHOOPHI WHAT SHE YEARNS FOR AND DESERVES...
4. She has witnessed an Asad who will NEVER FORGIVE HIS FATHER OR ALLOW HIS MOTHER TO GO WHERE HER HEART BELONGS...
If Asad had forgiven Rashid, he could very well have shifted out of SM to KV, since that house is actually Siddiqui's - NOT HIS.Now he continues to live in the house BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE IS IN VERY GOOD TERMS WITH GAFY AND CALLS HIM BHAIJAAN..they have fought and made up over the years...it is not a bond that cannot be just broken in one day.
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Ultimately it took 17 years...
Are you saying there is a time limit by when you should correct all your mistakes?😳 There are brothers who reconcile only when one is on deathbed...sad that people waste so many years fighting, to make up for a second...what could have given them years of happiness.
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'but if Rashid really wants to correct his mistakes and redeem himself, he should first go and accept to the whole world that 17 years back an innocent lady, a mother of a small innocent baby died at his hands!
That is what he can do to get Asad's respect back, and then we might consider him worthy of being forgiven!
But of course he won't do that, because he is COWARD and SELFISH!'
That is what he can do to get Asad's respect back, and then we might consider him worthy of being forgiven!
But of course he won't do that, because he is COWARD and SELFISH!'
Rashid's redemption HAS JUST STARTED...in no way is it anywhere near its end...he thinks he is dying and wants Dilshad to getthe respect of a first wife, and teh love she always yearned for...going to the police now would be pointless, since anyway he has no time...he is dying...and he needs to correct this the first thing..First things first na...
😉 Especially when it is the last thing you could be doing...😆 Ayan said it so well...Abbu is blabbering something...about dying soon and making a major change...things he needed to do before he died...😊
Oh! He is still a coward...but now he can atleast open his mouth and speak whats on his mind to Shireen n Asad...lil by lil he grows...😆
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'dont want to talk about rashid he is criminal like gaziya n trio must be punished for there deed.
jo insaan kisi insaan ko kabra tak nasseb nahi hone deta .even god never forgive them'
jo insaan kisi insaan ko kabra tak nasseb nahi hone deta .even god never forgive them'
If the woman had someone who was dear to her, they would have come looking for her...NO ONE CAME...Was she a beggar? A vagabond? In no way justifying Rashid...but his mistake was sincerely an accident...I personally feel God'd forgive...God is very forgiving...not like us...
To err is human, To forgive is divine...😉 Thank God we are humans...we can make mistakes...😳😆
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'Do u really think that zoya will forgive her abbu if she cum to knw abt his involvement in her ammi's death...?NO,NEVER... '
Do you think a woman can never forgive her rapist? Some can...and there is a real life incident where the rapist and murderer of a nun sister was forgiven by her family...not just forgiven, embraced in all good will and for the first time in his life that man must have known what love is...he changed...divine people do exist amongst us...😊
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'Sadly though, the way things are messed up right now, it looks like Dilu and Zoya are being idealistic and Asad is being realistic. Because if there had really been repentance, this living together bit would have been gradually spaced out. '
👏 Excellent POV...Idealism and realism...Funny that Asad and Zoya always clash on this...when it comes to small white lies, Asad is idealistic and Zoya is realistic..when it comes to big issues like this- again, they clash...👏 That is what makes them a complete couple...unity in diversity!😊 Though, Is Zoya not realistic in understanding what phoophi must be going through...
Spaced out: Rashid believes he can waste no more time..
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'How can Asad forgive him when he did not take inconsideration of Asad's feelings before asking Dilshad to move in with him. He could have at least redeemed himself and called everyone from SM and KV and made the announcement that he wronged Dilshad and his kids 17 years ago and now wants to make things right. He did it privately. Does he have something to hide?? Is he afraid the society and People of SM and KV will hate him??
Whats gonna happen now when Dilshad goes to SM and he is not around people like Razia and Gaffur are gonna say dillu ne dore mare Rashid ke uppar. This will be because the did not hear it from the horses mouth that he wants her back.'
Rashid knows by now what ASad's response will be...he knows THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITH ASAD'S PERMISSION...he looks for confirmation ONLY from one person...DILSHAD...she agrees...more than enough...Both SHIREEN AND ASAD GET TOLD WHAT HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO TELL FOR YEARS...
And he has already told Ayan and Najma he is making a LIFE CHANGING DECISION.
Regardless, of whether Rashid announces it on National Television or not...Raziya will have only one LINE...'Dilshad hoodwinked Rashid...she is a witch." Nothing is going to change that. Let us see what happens there and how Rashid helps Dilshad adjust.
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'Where was Rashid's love for Dil when he chose money and status over his wife and children, he forgot that he also has a responsibility towards his first family, he never once looked for out them in 17 years until an accidental meeting, instead he chose his 2nd family whom he showered with love,
Dilshad and the kids were left in poverty and Asad as boy had to assume a man's role to provide for his baby sister and mother.'
When we are talking about forgiveness, there is no point bringing up the past...because the past is what you are forgiving for...and there is no way you can go back in a time machine and correct the past...there is only one thing you can do now...see if the person has repented...if so, forgiven. Dilshad feels Rashid's repentance- so she forgives. Easier for some people than others.
'Ultimately I think Rashid doesn't love Dil or Shir, he loves himself, he has felt his own mortality and wants to be taken care of. Dilshad gives Rashid respect which he doesnt get from Shireen's family. '
I disagree.😳 Rashid KNOWS what Dilshad WANTS...he has seen her tears and her yearning for him...HE KNOWS SHE RECIPROCATES...if she had really shown no interset, he would have left her alone. And all this while he tried to BUILD IT UP SLOWLY, so that Shireen will not be affected that bad...but NOW, he knows he cannot wait any more...It is justice to Dilshad now- and he will go against Asad and Shireen for what Dilshad wants. He is not seeing the bigger picture, sadly...
But when a man makes a decision like this, don't U think it is going to RUFFLE ALL THE FEATHERS?😳
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'When did Rashid ever apologize to Asad?'
When did Asad ever agree to listen to what his father had to say?
'Asad still hasn't realized the truth about that. It maybe possible to forgive the father who took away his brother and childhood along with him but How can he possibly forgive the man who hurt his mother time and again?
And now when Dilshad has decided to move in with him how can he possibly let her when he doesn't even know the reason?'
How can he possibly know when he does not listen to her reason???😳
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'For those who take an oath of abstention from their wives, a waiting period of four months (is ordained); if they return, indeed, Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. But if their intention is firm for divorce, then, indeed, Allah is Hearing, Knowing.'
Each woman's expectations from her husband are different...I think QH is about love and human relations that work beyond the rules set down by society, law, religion etc...
😕 What law is this?
I know a woman who sexually deprives her husband all the time...if they were Muslim, I guess the guy had every right to leave her 😆 Actually, legally HE DOES...but he loves her dearly in spite of her ahem problems...😳
Hope I don't have to elaborate...😳
That means Jodha and Akbar are divorced too...🤣
🤗 A little cranky...hope U don't mind.😳
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'He said and I quote,"Mai chahta tha ke yeh faisla mai tumhari razamandi ke saath loon,but tumne mere liye koi aur raasta nahin chora" and "Tumhari ammi hone se pehle woh meri biwi hai"...in my opinion,that means he only came for his wife,NOT for his children or their ammi.'
No. That means...theer is no point waiting for you to have better sense...After months of seeing QH, I have realised I am a fool to think you will ever forgive me...let me do this at least for my wife, since I know she has forgiven me, and WANTS TO BE WITH ME...😉
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"Aaj pata chala ki apka apna beta aapse itna nafrat kyu karta hai!Mujhe aapse khamoshi ki hi umeed thi!Accha huva ki aapne meri umeed todi nahi!"These words were uttered by Dilshad during 10days challenge!That day when Shireen is giving baddua to Dilshad and Asad,Rashid did nothing except staring at the tamasha!Now if Dilshad goes to SM,it is obvious that Dilshad will be pointed out first and insulted that she trapped him again!Now Rashis is the one who begged for her forgiveness and tuk her to SM.Now can he stand up for her?And the most important thing is he caused same pain to both Dilshad and Asad 17ago...now he wants to correct that by taking Dilshad with him!But wat abt Asad?Does Asad not deserve an explanation?Does Rashid not consider Asad as his family? '
That was a time when Shireen was suicidal...would slash her wrist at the drop of a hat😲... now the tables are turned😉...Rashid is on his deathbed...now he can blackmail people into doing what he has been forced into doing all this time...😉😆
Ab dekho kya dialogues maarta hai...😉
Rashid considers Asad his family...unfortunately Asad thinks Rashid is dead and what stands before him is a ghost...he refuses to acknowledge his existence!😲😆 Phir kaise baat karta???😕😆
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'how easily he lets ayaan leave the house because its more important for him to live with his two wives then to even try to understand what all this might be like for ALL this children.'
Remember what Rashid told Shiren when he let Zoya go with Asad...Marriage should not be an adjustment...that is what his marriage to Shireen has been...He has been her shauhar, her children's abbu...out of a majboori...
Now it is time to deliver justice to Dilshad, and if not Asad, then Najma...😊
He is husband to two women...has kept silent for many years...now he has realised that THE RIGHT TIME WILL NEVER COME UNLESS HE DELIVERED A SHOCK TREATMENT TO PEOPLE WHO WERE BLIND AND DEAF AND WANTED TO KEEP HIM MUTE!😉
' What is the point of being a partner if you wont allow the other person to feel the way they feel? Does Zoya not see the hurt behind Asad's hatred. Why do these people expect that hurt to just go away suddenly? '
Let us not judge Zoya. To an extent, she will baby sit Asad...if the baby starts behaving rowdy😲, she might have to go for the cane.😉😆
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' It is blind of Dilshad to think that she must choose between her Ex-husband and her son, and not hope for a situation where she can be with both, iin a different way. Even if they both forgive him. And it would be foolish of Zoya not to see these very real problems. '
I honestly feel that Asad will be the one who is always blind...and deaf...He will not understand...unless she takes that step. Neither will Shiren until Rashid follows up with his words with actions...both Asad and Shireen are going to go back and forth in dialogue...one venomous, the other whiny...and this tale is not going to end...so I am actually glad that Rashid Ahmed Khan for once had the spine to talk to his wife, walk into his son's house and claim his first wife...what she and he wanted...
And if Asad and Shireen had agreed, they could all live happily under one roof...which is the only HAPPY CONCLUSION TO THIS TALE for me...and since that happy conclusion is not there...the tale has not ended...let us see what this brings out...😳
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To end it,
A bit from Amber...who is inexplicably and astonishingly similar to me😲...it creeps me out...😆 Are you a mind reader or what? What else do you read from my mind? 😆
'It should never be too late to make amends .
Asad is dragging his father , holding his collar .. which I guess sells big time on small screen , sadly people enjoy it a lot. Yes He needs to set it right for Asad also, which he did try in the past and will try again. It's Asad's call to forgive him or not . Asad has also done mistakes in the past for which he was forgiven.
1. He slapped Zoya without knowing the truth.
2. Blindly trusted Tanveer.
3. Loaned Zoya to SM. And If Zoya can forgive him for that , then ...
Asad was forgiven every time,👏
Rashid stood up for him, Let him take Zoya from SM .👏
So yes everybody should be given a chance at redemption.👏
👏Amazingg!! What else do we share, other than our thoughts?😳
Also, this bit from oldestfan...😳
'The so called trade. This is one of those rabid ideas that went viral. Zoya always had a choice. May be no one asked her. But she has a mouth and she has a voice, and she could have used it then. Do you make choices only if someone asks you? She could have said ... I trust in our love Mr. Khan, but right now I do not trust your judgment of the situation. He apologized repeatedly and also tried many ways to get her out, until he hit upon the right way of doing so. And she went with him, not because she forgave him, but because she loved him. I speak of this NOT to flog this dead horse again, but to make a distinction between love and forgiveness. '
👏👏👏 Yes it was Zoya's decision...but Asad made that decision for her knowing she would not refuse...so in effect, he did wrong her, taking advantage of her trust in him...😳 But not to the extent of trade and all...🥱 I feel that is why Zoya said she hated him, but she could not help loving him...her love for him had sucked out her individuality and she had given in...
Was he at fault for demanding? Was she at fault for giving in?...Is it not his right to demand, and hers to give...Don't take this up any more, please guys if u can...we are on a new debate.😳
