19/9 Dragon Club: Muqabla Humse Na Karo!

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I didn't think this was a filler at all! I loved the episode. 😃

In one brilliant masterstroke Aarti has made it so that instead of fighting against her and for Arpita, in this match, Yash is actually fighting for her and the kids...and Arpita as well. By aligning with him she is making everything into one goal that Yash has to fight for together. Redemption from Arpita guilt is no longer separate from moving on with Aarti and the kids, and living his life guilt free. She has made it so that he actually has to win this fight, and if he does, it means he won't be guilty any longer.

It is pretty clear that Yash has survivor's guilt. He doesn't understand on some level why that rainy night, Arpita died and he survived. So he keeps testing chance and bringing himself close to death. He is still trying to test out the logic of death, without accepting that there is no logic some times to things that happen, like Arpita dying. He had reconciled himself to the idea that the purpose for his life was to consecrate and stay faithful to Arpita's memory but now that he has committed this huge "paap" he betrayed that purpose for life, and no longer understood why he was alive, so he sought death.

So Yash, basically, was trying to control the forces of life and death, trying to get the better of them. Death took Arpita away from him, and life made him cheat her with Aarti, so he was going to use death and revoke life to get Arpita back and reject Aarti...and in essence, stay in control. Control is so important to Yash, as he said to Aman the night he drank bhaang...he values that trait highly and asserts that he wouldn't give it up to any intoxication, but both Arpita's death and his feelings for Aarti were things he could not control, and so he feels helpless and is desperately trying to take back control through this fight; trying to get "kabza" over life and death.

By standing behind him, Aarti is giving him a light at the end of the tunnel and showing him the exact reason why he is alive and why he needs to keep living, now that his mission of mourning Arpita is over, much sooner than Yash expected. She is showing Yash what he has to fight for in this life, over and above his guilt.

It is a wonderful throwback to all the times she has supported Yash in getting the closure he needs from Arpita, be it the shraadh or the Neelam incident. When she can't fight against him, she stands beside him to assert that she is on his side. This has always helped Yash move to the next stage in getting over Arpita, be it first articulating his stance on AKJ to Aarti at the temple after the shraadh and thereby opening his heart to her, or accepting her as a friend after the Neelam incident. It is a beautiful transition too because during the shraadh she protected completely him while he remembered Arpita in a formal and meaningful way, during the Neelam incident, she couldn't stop him from risking his life but risked hers along with him to make sure they both came out of it alright, and now finally he is risking his life again, but this time she can't protect him or even go with him. All she can do is stand at the end of the tunnel, holding a light, and hope that he makes it out. This is the point in his fight, past which nobody but him can fight it. He has to decide what he is fighting for and whether he wants to come out of his Arpita grief once and for all, for all the things he does have to love and life for.

Aside: I actually liked the Aarti - Arpita monologue. Arpita is always going to be a part of their family because of their fond memories. I was touched by the idea that Aarti has no bitter feelings towards Arpita, despite how much trouble Arpita's memory has caused her in her relationship with Yash. Coming from the place that Aarti does, she could have easily resented Arpita, comparing her with Nida. But Aarti is not like that and that is going to make a huge difference to Yash when he realises how he has been behaving. His behaviour, contrary to what he wants, could make people resentful of Arpita (I know it has us, here on the forum) and the fact that Aarti has not once felt or expressed a negative vibe is going to show him the kind of rare gem that she is. At the same time, I like how Aarti acknowledged Arpita as part of her family, but also sort of reminded her of her responsibility in being there...she had to help make Yash happy by forgiving him. I realise that Aarti was talking to glass and paper, but I think her emotional investment in Arpita's memory is really touching because it connects her all the more deeply to Yash, Palak and Payal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It was a good episode 😊


It begins where we left off yesterday with Yash saying that he'll go into the ring and if Arpita forgives him, he come back but if she doesn't he'll go join her 🤢 just as he's about to walk on a piece of broken glass, Aarti puts her hand preventing Yash from walking on the glass but she hurts her hand...She pleads with him to stop this madness to witch he replies that no one can stop him and walks out the room

Vidhi & Pratik comes rushing towards Aarti as she coming out the room, they wanna know if she was successful in stopping Yash..she tells then that she tried but so couldn't stop him...They all look sad šŸ˜”

Shobha aunty comes and tells Aarti to let Yash fight and support him as a wife and pray that he wins so he could be free of the guilt over Arpita...šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤” seriously Aunty, okay then so what will happen to your daughter and her children if Yash doesn't win despite having Aarti's support & blessings??? okay i shouldn't dwell on that cause in the end I know the gods are with AarYa šŸ˜›šŸ˜³

Aarti in Yash's room talking to Arpita's pic. She tells the latter that she doesn't wanna take her place, she just want to see Yash happy...Aarti goes on to ask Arpita to help Yash win the match and to forgive him šŸ˜•

Meanwhile in Delhi, Gayatri is pacing her room feeling very restless when SP comes in, he wants to know what's bother her...At first he assumes she's in this state because of the surgery which she reassure him that isn't the case, she was thinking about Yash.

SP calls home to put her mind at peace but no one answers the phone cause they have all gone to see Yash fight...SP then calls Yash's cell and doesn't get anything answer either which leaves him restless as well so he decides to call the Dubeys...Pheww,Thank goodness it wasn't G3 who was trying to contact Yash, I sure she would have run back straight to Bhopal w/t having her surgery

Shobha aunty answers the phone and SP tells her he has been trying to call Yash but he can't be reach so he wants to know he everything is alright but before she tells him anything G3 takes the phone from him and asks abt Yash.

Shobha was contemplating whether to tell her about Yash's match but she decides against it and says that the reason they can't reach them is cause Yash has gone out with the kids...Gayatri is happy upon hearing that and she says that she has faith that Aarti will win Yash over...Well I'm happy that Shobha lied to G3 or else nothing nor no one wouldn't be able to stop her from leaving Delhi 😃

Pratik & Vidhi are trying to stop Yash from going into the ring, Pratik even talks about his parents and the kids but all fall on deaf eyes even boa attempts to stop him by saying that it was Aarti's fault so why is he punishing himself...WTH that woman needs to get a life 😔😔😔 Yash replies that he can't hurt anyone else, he has to do this so please forgive him.

Just then Aarti enters the locker room with the kids and Yash asks her if she is going to stop him with the kids to which she replies that he never understands her, she says she came with the kids to support him not stop him...She even tells him that she has full faith that he'll win the match for his children and family leaving Yash stunned 😲...Way to go Aarti šŸ‘šŸ‘

Ansh asks Yaash if he's going to win the match for them, Yash looks all confused and leaves the room...Poor guy doesn't know what the heck is going around him, one minute she tells him not to go for the kids sake and the next she brings the kids to support him leaving him more confuse than a labyrinth šŸ¤¢šŸ˜†

A frustrated boa asks Aarti what kind of wife is she, who is supporting her husband to di and wants to know if she did the same with P Aarti says that she is supporting him cause she's his wife and she has the right to motive him to win...the kids also support Aarti saying that their dad can never lose and he'll win it for them...Aww how adorable are those those little munchkins (actually only Ansh& Palak were on today but i can never let Payal out of it even when she is MIA) 😳😳😳

Boa was about to attack Aarti again when Vidhi stops her saying that Aarti is right let Yash fight if it gives him peace so that he can return to his normal state again...All they can do is support and pray for him...Boa looks really concerned for Yash and says that she will do it just for Yash's sake...Hmmm so the old snake has a heart after all hahha


@Precap: Is about KK coming to inaugurate some place
Edited by Zetter - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i came across this article and i loved it very much!!! each and every word says it all!! hats of to the writter! šŸ‘ so for those of you who are lost not knowing what is happening or what is gonna happen this article would help! šŸ˜†šŸ˜‰

http://rangmunch.tv/index.php/writers-gully/reflections-menu/item/1671-punar-vivaah-the-face-off

Arti was not far behind her goal of knocking some sense into yash scindia's thick brain.arming herself with the main weakness,unconditional love for yash,she bulldozed her way into his territory to give him a piece of her mind.she did not mince words and she did not give up.and she never used her being pregnant as ransom.

arti as the women who was suppose to have instigated the whole seduction of yash scindia brought a chuckle,but more pain.imagine a husband blaming his wife of vile things,just because he is afraid to face the reality,a typical; boy pushing off the blame to someone else,it was heart wrenching ans could also feel the anger coursing through aarti as those accusations are being hurled with contempt,as shoba ji says it is not about wedding rights here,but more of self respect and honor.


that same self respect and honor is what gave arti the strength to confron yash.The wife-husband confrontation was a treat to watch in tuesday episode,aarti was no weakling,not the typical bahu wallowing in self-pity and accepting the situation as her fate and destiny.The crux of the situation that she loves yash,was made the focal point and it was harsh enough reality to snap yash out of his self destructive mode,atleast for a few moments."


The most effective way to do things is to just do them.Aarti has learned to weather storms in her life with courage.Aarti never loved prashanth to this level.She loves yash to an extent where she does not want him to feel obligated and stay with her due to her pregnancy.and I remember the initial scenes,when she begs prashanth to stay with her for the sake of the baby.


The contrast of aarti's feelings for yash and prashanth will be drawn.Yash's reaction to her pregnancy will also draw parallels with her past and prashanth will become a majordomo in their life as they move forward.It is expected,as that loop needs to be closed eventually,I can understand yash's guilt and stupidity to a certain extent,but lets not go into psyche of a husband who lost his beloved.It has been butchered to death many a time.It is time for yash to spring-clean his heart and brain.


The CV's have redeemed themselves a lot.The brainwave for aarti to have a showdown with yash was very well planned,executed and was a necessity.The anger,anguish,and the pain that yash threw in her face and she gave it right back to him,and more was a treat to watch.Driving the point that she loves yash,that many a time,was a great move and the feather in the cap was not letting out the fact that she is pregnant.This just accentuates the character of aarti.A saving grace!


The cv's deserve all applaud for coming with a more than a decent episode.It was a pleasure to watch an emotionally charged episode sans,any over the top crying,interferences or any third party involvement.Even the small act of vidhi putting buaji in her place was well place and well thought.


Kratika,as the furious wife was indeed a gem of a performance.Gurmeet as the husband on receiving end did well,although the initial emotional scenes lack life,similar to his mind and heart not being in sync.Hoping that now they would salvage the character of yash scindia.He has taken a beating,real and reel.As yash gears up for the fight of his life.lets see is arpita will forgive yash for falling in love a second time around.

Edited by Tilashini - 13 years ago
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Today was a filler episode as it showed only the build-up for Yash's big boxing match which will decide the fate of his Arpita guilt trip and also Aarti-Yash relationship ... Pregnency news is yet not out in front of Yash which tells me the news will come out right at the climax of this boxing match when Yash might b on the verge of defeat and this pregnency news might b his final motivation in boxing ring 😳😳😳



Aarti's reverse psychology idea on Yash to support him for the fight was spot on šŸ‘šŸ¼

Aarti did the right thing by playing this reverse psychology game with Yash as thats the only way to make him fight for victory and not defeat šŸ˜†... I still feel Aarti will announce her pregnency news just on the verge of Yash's defeat to further motivate him to fight for life and not death 😃...She already brought Ansh and Palak there for this same purpose so that both can cheer for their father and motivate him to win and seeing the kids cheering for him , no way he can loose it šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†...So Aarti played her cards smartly since she knew that if she stops him , he will b further stubborn to jump into the death bed but rather if she brings his kids with her to cheer him up then no way he can fight for death 😃...


Aarti has reserved the pregnency news for the climax of this boxing match and she might announce it only when she feels Yash is in danger during the match since in the first scene itself she told to herself that how Yash ji can fight for death when this life is taking shape in my womb which is a result of our love and not paap 😭...I guess she will say the same to Yash during the boxing match too that how can u easily face death here when a life is taking shape in my womb and this will b the biggest motivation for Yash to fight and achieve victory and forever burry Arpita 😃



Sohbha's dragging lecture and also Aarti-Arpita photo talk could hv been avoided or cut short mayb šŸ¤”

I m getting a bit tired of Shobha's preching now ...Ok I agree her suggestion to Aarti was spot on today when she asked Aarti to support Yash for this fight because the more she tries to stop him , he will b more stubborn to fight and die but instead if she supports him and encourages him to win , then he might get that motivation and tables might turn šŸ‘šŸ¼ .. But what is irritating me is her long long lectures and heavy regressive dialogues which she uses like telling Aarti how she is Yash's "Ardhangini" etc etc ... its 2012 for god's sake .. CVs dont need to go so preacy here about husband-wife relationship ...

Shobha could hv just said it in simple words that let Yash fight if thats what frees him from this Arpita guilt forever and ask Aarti to encourage him for the win ... Bas this much could hv done it .. there was no need for Shobha to waste 5 minutes lecturing Aarti on patni dharm and all that nonsense as if Aarti is a 5 yr old baby ...


I wolud hv actually preferred Aarti herself coming with this idea of deciding to support Yash in this fight ... Why always Shobha has to give her ideas .. I wish CVs for once stop bringing third angle in husband-wife issues and let Aarti handle it all on her own since she is capable of it


Also Aarti talking to Arpita photo dint make much sense either since if Aarti knows that whatever happened was love and not sin , then why she needs to give any explanation to Arpita's photo ?? šŸ˜•...So again that scene dint do much for me either šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼...


I understand that CVs wanted to make a filler episode and so these scenes were added up just to drag the main boxing match till tomorrow or friday mayb but they could hv filled the episode with some other scenes like I loved the scene of Daddy Scindia and Gayatri showing concern for family in delhi and then calling up Shobha to enquire .. such scenes too r used for filler but I loved it as they dint look forced or preachy but natural šŸ‘šŸ¼



Aarti's biggest misery ...Yash is yet to understand her emotions 😭😭


I loved it when Aarti said Yash that my biggest problem is u never understood me 😭...For a second even Yash was stunned there ... Its so true , all Yash did was accuse Aarti without really trying to know her emotions ... He conveniently puts entire Mumbai fiasco's blame on Aarti without thinking twice that he was an equal participant in the whole act 😔.. And again when Aarti came with kids , he made assumption that she will b using kids for emotional blackmailing 😔... But he was stunned to know that Aarti brought them to cheer him up and not demotivate 😳

Ufff when will Yash start understanding her .. 😔😭😭😭


I still feel Yash is seeing things only from his POV .. like he feels guilty and so he thinks only the result of this boxing match can give him a proper freedom from his guilt but at the same time he still considers Aarti as the responsible party in all this ...I just hope just how he is repenting for betraying Arpita , tomorrow he repents for giving so much pain and humiliation to Aarti too 😭... I m not sure how CVs will do it but they need to do it for sure ...

So far we hv heard enough about Aarti's patni-dharam and her responsibilities towards Yash but now after this boxing match its time for Yash's pati-dharam and his responsibilities towards his wife Aarti ...


He has enough tested himself with all these death encounters ...Now its time to support Aarti and the new life which will take birth 😊




Kareena -Yash meeting might come before this boxing match šŸ¤”


Kareena and Yash meeting might happen before boxing match because as far as I remember Yash on phone told I wont b able to come this evening and asked the manager to handle the Kareena kapoor event since he was gearing up for boxing match ... But mayb in that event things go wrong and then Yash might hv been called urgently ..so he might take some time off ,... hv a face-off with Kareena and then hv the face-off in boxing ring šŸ˜›šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


Kareena might just give him a piece of her mind about how u should live life and not think of death because life is precious blabla .. this might give some motivation to Yash and he might remember Arpita's words šŸ˜›


Kareena event will come full tomorrow only as these stars give fixed date for their movie promotion and will not like things going in next episode like we saw barfi promotion happened right on wednesday only ...

Also boxing match no sbb or sbs covered which tells me its not shot yet and so we might get it on friday only if I assume its shot today šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†,...Anyways lets see šŸ˜†



Overall I felt it like a filler episode where the only good part was Yash finally fighting for victory and not defeat now that even his kids r going to cheer for him 😳...I dint mention about the starting scene much since I said it yesterday only about the blood symbolism and Aarti getting hurt making sure Yash's feet is not injured 😳...So when Aarti has already taken all his pain on herself , then how can Yash get hurt at all in this boxing match ?? 😳

Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Looking forward to this episode let's see if our JKR can stop her aag baboola from fighting!


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Edited by 49erFan - 13 years ago
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translation pls pearl..
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sorry i dont understand the title šŸ˜•
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Hope Aarti manages to stop him because i have this feeling that if Yash makes to the rink, he is going to use the other guy as his punching bagšŸ˜†
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