Reverse Psychology - A Different Take - Page 4

Originally posted by: lovtv

Hey Jzee,

Just watched the episode. Absolutely agree with your character analysis. This show is amazing at giving all the players a chance to shine and today was definitely all about baapji! He got to showcase what an amazing actor he is. You see the transformation of his demeanor as he hears Poonam go on and on about Gulaal and blaming her for everything.

The only thing I am not sure I agree on is that this was a strategic strike on his part. I don't think he was trying use reverse psychology on Gulaal. His defense and support of Gulaal was all about "this is my daughter and no one is going to force her to do anything she doesn't want to in my presence" It was all genuine. It wasn't just him saying this in front of her own family and the panchayat but he takes it a step forward and talks to Kesar as well.

What a fantastic statement. He doesn't take the normal route of "you must do what is right to defend the honour of the family" But he does the right thing! The end result maybe that Gulaal at some point decides to go back. But the father daughter relationship is not manipulative here. Again amazing!

-Shelly

Originally posted by: nureat01

Excellent point, JZee...I too thought about this as I've watched Kesar over the last few epis especially...Kesar toh is definitely reverting back to that lost 12 year old boy as he pleads with her...he is so out of his mind, this seems to be what he falls back to...pleading for her understanding just once...when he said that line about, "tu kyun bhool jaati hai ki main TERA Kesar hoon"...that was just so heartwrenching...and that's the heart of it...it shows his state of mind...why he's pleading for understanding from HER...HIS Gulaal...but like you said, she too has reverted back to the "guardian" mindset...not that she ever really changed much from that when it came to Kesar in general...but that scene in particular was about an "adult" ignoring a "tantrum" from a "kid"...that was exactly how it came out...even thought Kesar's condition was so heartwrenching, it went beyond just a "childish tantrum" but then that's how Gulaal viewed it...since she's stuck in her "guardian" mindset...she's using tough treatment on him to get him out of the that "tantrum" phase as she sees it...but this version of "guardian" Gulaal has lost touch with the original guardian version who still understood Kesar...knew how to deal with his worst tantrums also...this version of "guardian" Gulaal has to battle with the spooked woman inside her...the one who can't deal with and doesn't want to accept that she is no longer dealing with a "child"...even if that side of his comes out sometimes in this manner...deep down, somewhere she knows it...but she is not even close to acknowledging it...stubbornness can blind us to many things.


And honestly it's such a fascinating oscillation that happens b/w these two roles...especially in Kesar's case...the layers to his character...and how the layers to Gulaal move back and forth in tandem.

Originally posted by: Blueberry_07

Great post, Jzee!

Esp that two possible scenarios that you stated. I see the first option happening. If the second one happens, i'll bow down to the writers for bringing the C to creativity.😆 As for the reverse psychology issue, hmm not sure if i agree on that as well... but i like how you brought in this idea! Adds more to the discussions! :-) @bold - totally! Like I said to the four people I replied above you - I would give Revji straight A on genius and father categories if option B is it! But like I also said in the post itself, its a bit far fetched... but it's something!

Revji was excellent Today! Loved how he stood up for Gulaal but didn't quite like how he went directly to her "in-laws" home and made that specific final statement on how "No matter what, Gulaal will NEVER EVER set foot in that house again" ... 🤔 I mean him making that statement FOR Gulaal in a way went against his argument on how "No one can force her to do things against her wishes" 👏 excellent point BB!

Yes, Gulaal is in favour of it now but WHAT IF she eventually wants to head back home, is he gonna stop her then?? Ya know, since he made that statement. 😆 I don't know why, but i feel this just might be the case. Gulaal willing to go home because of how big this issue has been blown outta proportion but then Revji will be stopping her. - Oh I sure hope we wont be treated to that cliche scenario - I hate all the mess up between good characters going bad, bad going good and the endless vicious circle of it. I'm always for showing gray shades of every character - because honestly that makes them realistic - but there has to be ground to justify a grey in any character. If Revji just stops Gul from going against her wish to keep his statement on the fore - he's not the man they have shown him so far to be. Next thing we know, he will went it on Reva like all saas bahu sagas - so no thanks, I'd like to watch sense at least from Revji and MotaBha!

Then again, it was all in a moment of anger mainly and impluse that made Revji say that with the help of Jamuna who instigated him of course. Yeh, I'm just going to live with that belief for now 😆

Plus after seeing how he stood up for Gulaal Today, am pretty sure he'll be with her in whatever future decisions she makes or at least i hope so. 😆 Just wished he didn't make that final statement though!

Gulaal, being Gulaal will probably go back home since "Keeping others happy" is always her first priority, with her happiness falling in the last place or not even existing ... 😆 And, as you've mentioned, the guilt of seeing her parents suffer would also make her head back home.

Whatever happens, i hope Kesar doesn't take back his complaint. At first i wasn't sure if making a complain was the right thing to do but after hearing what Jamuna Kaki said, i kinda am happy that he went forward to seek the Panchayat's help. Ok i might be going slightly off topic here. 😆 I found the scene between Jamuna Kaki and Revji significant Today, apart from Revji's stance for Gulaal. Going to make a complain was like giving Gulaal a taste of her own medicine. The person who made the issue a huge deal in the first place was Gulaal herself. She called for a meeting intially to break off the Deeyarvattu without hearing Kesar out so what he did, the method that is, was just the same thing. Though i agree this isn't the best method to solve the problem but he wasn't left with much of a choice since Gulaal didn't even wanna have a proper convo with him.@ bold - excellent point again - I forgot to mention although I had initially intended to in my own post too, of how Kesar is this easy to lead on guy. For all his stubborn exterior, and tough fronts, he was and is the baby of the house. So when brute enemy Dushyant convinces him to stay back from running away on that bus, he stops. When PaanBa tells him he should place Talli's loss over his questions and doubts (arghh PB!) he goes to sort out with Talli. When Talli herself shows him compassion even if coupled with resentment, he tells her he'd do anything to have her friendship back. When evil Raman Bha tells him to seek Panchayat out, he does that... so how does one even expect him to not follow Gulaal's example? Even if Raman is the one responsible for the inception of the idea in Kesar's head - there's no denying where his line of argument could eventually have gone before going to Panchayat - didn't Gulaal do the same? She did it, because she had to. I'll do it because I have to. Because even if she avoids him like a plague, he can never come to believe she hates him enough to harm him - its not Gulaal. ANd similarly, he's not harming her, in that line of argument. Gulaal has paved way for making family matter public - whatever her dire need - Kesar has done the same - of course, no one can deny both were wrong in their own instance.

Then again there's the downside if he doesn't take back his complain coz am sure if ever Gulaal plans to go back, she'll be giving him the silent treatment at home. 😆 Oh yes! It's going to one heck of a long road to redemption - Kear had better gear up for worse than the worst he think is happening now.

One last thing, Sudha. Man she needs to shut up already. 🤣 She feels all villianish suddenly 😳 Some psycho who's stalks Kesar just to add on to the hugeee guilt he's already suffering from. I mean even Talli has put a rest to it but Sudha...Jeez! Oh but i like how determined he was going "Gulaal ayega.. Zaroor ayega" 😆 I wanted to skip talking of the precap, simply so I could skip talking of Sudha - she's grating my last nerve. I have no idea how people hate on Talli, when there is a Sudha in the plot to hate on with all your passion. She's not an out of line character - and she's not unreal - but I just can't stand her beyond 5 seconds at any point even when she was being goody 😳

Once again, great points!

@ JZephyr

Originally posted by: ritukaprithvi

@ JZephyr

I agree with what you say ,this tatic might work with GULAAL, she is always taking the path to redemption alone