Devil's Den: Roop Teera Mastana

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Index...on the spot that it should always be on🤣 🤣, Nah! Nah! Nah! Na! Na! I got the first spot...

Page 1
Analysis by Doodle, Geeta...still waiting for Adits, Taqdir, Ann and Jhan to post...they are all spamming....Oyee! come and do the analysis all of you....😡


Page 2
Analysis by Pallu, Geet...still waiting for detailed analysis by Anj, Jaya, Richi, Gouri, M7chimes (I don't know your name, sorry), and Smita....Some of them were kind enough to leave a few words of wisdom..you can read them if you want...😆

Page 3
Song selection by Polki...I haven't done it yet...I was busy waging war against Geet...
Analysis by Jyoti..out ever optimistic devil...even you won't convince me today, you hear me...
Ms. Taveez decides to speak again...crazy about MSK, she is....😉
Waiting for analysis by Marsha and Swati...

Page 4-10
In earnest hating for the episode starts...Episode is Thanda Pani as Caco best puts it...Oh! Yeah, Geet has the attention span of a gold fish🤣 🤣
Is is really snowing in Manali?
People wanting to strangle Geet😆 Me in line first....🤣
What is Geet wearing under the shirt...is it a Lungi....where did that come from😲
Beagle still doesn't have internet...damn you SKY..😡
Doodle confused...what😕...Logic is Dead 🤢 according to her...in that case what hope is left for the rest of us...😒
Stalker Diaries -Page 6--Maan missing Brij dostana after dealing with stupid Geet
More Geet has amnesia talk...
Maan has a built in heater...🤣 🤣 Wrong wardrobe...Jhan trust me everything is wrong, clothes is the last problem...😕
More disappointment in the Episode... Roop Teera Mastana so passionless could work as a Sex Prevention Video...🤣 🤣
FAKE MANGETAR comes up again and again...😡
Polki in full Halla Bol!!! mode against Geet...believes the girl is DEMENTED....🤢
Passionless scene has been Nari Mandel's plan all along to dissuade people from having sex...🤣 🤣
Some talk about kiss? What there was a Kiss?
Anshu..decides to bring more joy into the den😕 mentions the new Promo and the likelyhood of Dev and Geet confrontation...Good job Devil👏
Pallo pees in with a poem...Page 9
Maan is so HOT that even snowfall cannot stop him from stripping...😆
The Merry go round goes round and round, round and round, round...any one else getting dizzy?

Pages 11-20
More what is that , is it a Lungi talk
Daaku egging on Pooja to watch the episode..😆
Pallo wondering if Maan is sweat Free...🤣 🤣
More Fake Mangetar talk....what was that at the train station? talk....😕
Take by VJ..new comer...I think we scared her off😲 Page 13
What was that with Geet just lying down on the bed?
Geet in Ghajini mode 🤔 it is all fake..his feelings for me..the snow and probably even the baby🤣 🤣
Daaku endorsing the episode from Wednesday...everything else was UTTER CRAP😡
Shonu salutes all ..you have to see for what....Page 14
Talk about the actors looking uncomfortable...don't they know they are acting😕
Jyoti trying to spread black magic by defending the episode... she has been watching too much Uttran...to defend this episode..
Polki thinks everything about the episode was cold..Polki so cynical...
Blue confused about which parts were real and which were fake🤣 🤣
People now trying to get positive by looking forward to Monday's episode...not if Polki can help it, she is in full Halla Bol!!!mode😡
Resident Poet Pooja, pens 3 awesome lines..nothing more needed to be said...Page 17
Fazzu drops a bomb...she liked the episode....😲
Jyo's new motto should be "I've got sunshine on a cloudy day" 😆 it is true she is so positive it is sickening...
Shonu's message to the CVs...Page 18
Daaku pens down a few lines at Caco's request...she happy it was Thanda Pani...Page 18
Jyo talks about the Physical POV of Geet 🤢 Polki still not convinced...
Geet is DEMENTED...Polki says so...
Talk about Maan's public 'Sirf Meri' line...
Pemmu thinks Maan munda was HAWT...😛
Fazzu...gonna yell at munda and kudie during her bumping posts, she disappointed in them😆

Pages 21-40
Blue still confused that RTM sequence not a dream..maha disappointed..😕
Doodle active in the Den..why because she too was WTH? today.... 😉
Pallo tries to explain Geet's behavior...🤪
Polki still Mad 😡 gives reasons why she doesn't like Geet anymore...Page 23...😕
Daaku and Caco...writing 4 line poems...😆
Gouri...utterly dissapointed...🤔 check out what she has to say Page 24
Sul gives her take...Page 24
Pallo back with her 4 line poems...the den is so inspiring isn't it..everyone turning into poets.
Jyo back with positivity and suggests we watch the epi with a blank mind...may just have to take her advise for the entire show...else soon I will be pulling out my own hair....
Another Poem by Pooja...everyone must read her stuff....it is a command....Page 25
Pareenita metaphor not over according to Doodle...lets see what Monday brings our way..😕
Jaya who never spams only posts her analysis and leaves can't help it today..she in full force questioning Geet's behavior👏 Purvi too...
Caco finds the perfect song to dedicate to Geet...Page 29...You are Hot and your Cold...
Hand holding makes you Pregnanat 🤣 🤣 Beagle you too funny..
Daaku...give her 2 cents and this time seriously as hard as it maybe to believe..Page 31
Marsha's message to Maan...Page 33 😆 😆
Anj is in the den...here to defend her Kudie and bash my munda....😕 Never mind..Polki is ready....
"You cannot make characters think tomorrow what they are supposed to think today"
Daaku well said....👏
Fazzu finally says it...Geet confusing not only munda but also audience....😉
Pari does her take...read on Page 37
More people trying to explain Kudie's behavior...Polki in turn explains to Yasu what the brown stuff is🤣 🤣
Now Geet understands love but doesn't know that the Guy wants marriage-What! 😲
Premmukti's take on the episode...read it on Page 38
We in trouble....Mehr...phollo ki baarish comes to show us the danda 😕 for quoting...
Rhea comes in wondering....not one single hug? aww don't be sad, love 🤣 🤣
When munda does something right..it is either his ego or sympathy that is talking😡


Pages 41-60
Fazzu 🤣 babies are parachuted from the sky...or the stork brings them to your door step....
Now people talking for my munda...they know what is in his mind...not ready for marriage they say....😡 first figure out what is running the the Kudie's demented mind and let us know...
Shreya trying to figure out logic in episode...😆 😆
Seems that the three most Clichd words words need to be used for Kudie to get that munda loves her...😕
Doodle back ...loving Doodle in the Den today, that too at this time...it is fab😃
Polki still at defending munda and calling Kudie DEMENTED...😆 As she points out how munda told her that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her and how he asked for her hand in marriage...
OMGish Fool Girls in full force...I am so proud of all of you...also all others who have joined us in our defence of Munda....we love you all...🤗
Blue suggest Munda jump off a cliff to prove his love 😆🤣
Fazzu's mom told her babies were parceled to you--something like Fed-Ex 🤣 🤣
Doodle with WTH? is ready to search for a new girl for munda..one who deserves him...😆
Maan needs a love interpreter for Kudie to explain to her all his actions and words😉 🤣
Caco was a smart 18 year old...
Tanu is so samajdar..she even disses nicely...😳
Pooja apparently you thought wrong..actions don't speak louder than words in kudie's world...
Fazzu..comes with her 2 cents regarding Geet's confusion..Page 51
Vandana in the den wondering what she missed...truly nothing...😕
Aww...Anj i love you for being persistent...still trying to tell us that munda needs to verbalize his intentions...Yes...because kudie is dense...agreed with you there...😉
Yasu with her gyan...Page 54
Ayesha enters the den..she is in good mood...too bad...not going to remain like that for long...
Ayesha threatens to kill all for ruining her good mood...
Vandana asks Jyo...if CONfusion for the viewers is in the CON theory...🤣 🤣
Sharing is Caring...Tanu's philosophy...😃
News------Mawali Mali ditched Nakwel yesterday and ran after Bunty...Nakwel hurt..and now flirting with others...😆


Polki tired and wants to have some fun....you all can navigate from here....





Edited by Poli.Geek - 14 years ago
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"The Moment – Maan's Parineeta Geet" – Part XXV – No Title because I didn't find any essence today

Yelloooo all my Friends, Devils, CVs, Star, Mr. Mirchandani and Nissar. Hi all. Since I need to open the thread daily so I am writing my analysis today. Am I sounding very off today??? Yes. I am off and cursing that day I started writing analysis for Geet HSP. I never expected that the day will be so soon when I will curse myself for getting involved in analyzing. Gouri and I we literally were upset with God for giving us brains and logic. I hope I also would have been brainless so that today I would have loved the episode. According to Gouri today's episode was utter crap. In my opinion seriously if you ask me I donno what was that today??? I can only give the verdict once I watch Monday's episode. Today's episode for me was killed in the first 1 min. with the "FAKE" dialogue. That one word killed not only the episode but the essence of the episode.

I know many of may have liked the episode but to me if I don't see any logic behind any dialogue or scene then it becomes crap for me. I am a kind who doesn't watch crap like DMG or MJHT or other series and if I don't find substance then I feel I should not watch them rather wasting my time in justifying the CVs or channel or being a bridge between CVs and viewers.

Well as Jyo says that today we don't have to analyze anything as there was nothing to analyze. I will only talk about the "Fake" dialogue.

Before I start analyzing I will say that I am in ambiguity in whose advocate I will become today. Ok. If you ask my heart then I will support Nissar and blame the channel today as I think today's episode was not Nissar's fault. This much I have known in the past couple of months that he never does a poor scene sketch. I know his style of work. Now if I listen to my brain then I will blame both Nissar and the Channel today. But having said that I must say I will not come to a conclusion until I watch Monday's episode as that day only I can give my verdict.

Enough of my emotional outburst to Channel and CVs and Nissar let me start with the analysis of the Fake Engagement dialogue. After watching the epi I can only think of this dialogue from 4 POVs. I am not here to justify all the POVs but can only draw the interference.


1. Channel POV

2. Nissar and CVs POV

3. Viewers POV

4. My POV

Channel POV: -

See here since many days I had been giving lectures on why channel is ineterfering and what they are doing. Now let me try to find some logic why the channel aired today's episode. Firstly the channel needed the TRPs badly. Secondly, the channel needed to satify the certain section of the fans by giving them intimate scenes as these episodes basically generate the TRPs as Star One is still projected as the youth channel and has still not got the broad spectrum of audiences from all genres. To generate this episode the channel needed to curtail down certain scenes which was necessary to the story line. To come to the "Roop" sequence the channel needed a push in terms of jealousy, mental tension and the Fake dialogue that will instigate Maan to prove to Geet that the engagement is real and for that he needed to submit himself to her completely or partially. The channel doesn't bother whether Geet's remorse been shown or not after she said the "Fake Dialogue" but they bother to show Maan's remorse because they believe and know that Maan on the TV screen gives them more TRPs. But in the process they forgot that the series is called Geet HSP not Maan HSP. They need to show Geet's remorse to maintain the character consistency and also to show us what is in Geet's mind when she said that dialogue and why did she sau that in the first place. Now then only Geet will realize that what all Maan is doing and announcing publicly about their engagement is actually real. So, this logic from the channel's side fits in. Isn't it???

Nissar and CVs POV: -

Here I will say the basic problem that Nissar faced is the editing out of the major scenes by the channel. Now I know all of a sudden out of the blue Nissar would not show that Maan is running towards the station to put a ring on Geet's finger and propose her within a span of couple of hours after Geet clarified the truth. Maan treating Geet like a dol was over possessiveness and he knew that will make Geet angry. Now the CVs need to take the story forward. How will they do that??? All the self analysis scenes which were crucial to the story line was been chopped off by the channel and the editing team just to show lead pair's romance. So, here the love declaration part which was done in the station completely failed in justification due to the editing. But Nissar still managed to do a great job in execution otherwise it would have failed tremendously. So, I have faith in Nissar that he didn't sketch the future story badly but the major problem he faced to redesign the story when the earlier flow was chopped off. Now, to still put some logic in the scenes and move the story Nissar had to use the Fake dialogue by Geet. Now here I can only think of 2 logics why he did that:-

Logic 1:- They needed a path for Maan to prove that it's all real by intimacy

Logic 2:- To make a pave towards the real engagement thing


Here the basic problem is I know Nissar has shot the self remorse scene of Geet but I doubt the channel edited it. Since the channel edited it so he has in no but to ruin Geet's character. I know he didn't want to ruin Geet's character but since there was no justification of the Fake dialogue so there was the missing link in the emotions even in the "Roop Tera" scene.

Also even Nissar was helpless to justify why Maan and Geet have this big communication problem. Like as per Maan's character goes he never asks for permission so when he puts the ring he never said a word and Geet accepted it. It was a proposal but since the self talks of Geet from the station to outhouse were chopped off we actually never came to know what Geet thought after he did that proposal. Here lies the missing link. Hence, we can see all the future episodes now are looking like a crap because of those chopped scenes.

Nissar had to complete the Parineeta theory. For that he required to show the submission of heart and soul of both the love birds. To achieve that he needed to sketch the jealousy seq, fake dialogue, bench scene and the "Roop Tera" seq. all these would build a drift between the two and then they will nake out in each other or rather submit themselves to each other. So, if you see through Nissar's POV everything fits into place.

As Gouri said that CVs have ruined Geet's character I won't agree now as now I feel that they have done their best and I will wait for Monday and then decide whose fault was in ruining Geet's character??? CV's or Channel's???


Viewer's POV:- There are 2 types of viewers: the Mass and the Class.

The Mass loved it as they got to see the so called "Hawt" scenes of the 70's packaged in 2010. I don't think they found any logic that led to the "Roop Tera" seq.

Now the max. Percentage of the Class didn't like it. The first 1 min. of the episode ruined the essence of the episode. The classes though on their own tried to find the logic and started connecting the dots. But as I said that because of the earlier edited scenes all the continuation went hapazard.

Ok. Now since the class viewers are quite good enough to give the BOD to the CVs and the Channel they actually tried their level best to connect the dots and get the explanations by themselves on why Geet got angry on being treated like a doll and also said the engagement was Fake even after Maan opened his heart to her.

They think that the Geet's bickering and complaints today made perfect sense there as Maan was acting over possessive and OTT. According to them it normally happens in the start of a relationship between two opposites. Geet as a girl is not very open in public interms of relationships so for her it was awkward more than anything. Now this actually later leads to that extreme passion in the snowfall scene when Maan carries Geet in his arms.

As per them Geet is very vulnerable when it comes to commitment because of her past. A girl who has gone through a big traumatic past will always have this insecurity at the back of her mind regarding her new life partner which is quite natural so by submitting himself to Geet he proves to Geet that the engagement is for real and fake.


My POV:-

As far as the Fake dialogue goes I will go by Nissar's POV. There can be only 2 logic why that was given. One to lead to the "Roop Tera" seq. where Maan will be forced to prove her that she is wrong and secondly, the real engagement seq. Because I can never see any other logic. It's not that she is insecured of what Maan atleast after what Maan did.

Now if this was the case of Geet mentioning the engagement as Fake then I would have been agreed pre railway station proposal. I Am SORRY but at this point I just cannot. What else she needs to know??? He said that he loves her in almost every possible way and I don't blame Nissar here. It's the Channel's fault. Even after the wonderful Railway Station proposal, Office Scene, Fountain Scene, Outhouse her declaration scene and the Manali Market place??? Even after when he said that Geet will waer those jewelry that his Dadima will give her then also Geet said that Fake Statement??? After all these how come she said that statement? Many even asked me that Maan had just put the ring on her finger and didn't even ask her. Now, I would question them when Maan asked her to tell in front of all the people about their relationship but still she preferred to keep quiet. Even after the truth she does not say that. Now here I won't say that Maan is at fault. Its Geet fault and she needs to be spoonfed all the time. I just cannot believe that even after the outhouse declaration how come she said that the Engagement is Fake to Maan??? And if she had said that in anger then atleast the remorse could have been shown??? That would have justified why she had submitted herself to Maan in the first place in "Roop Tera" seq???

I am Sorry here there are two contradictory behaviors and I don't understand this. I donno who ruined Geet's character but it's majorly ruined. I would say she should have not given herself in that intimate moment when in the first place she herself was in ambiguity on whether this engagement is Fake or Real.


One thing I know either you GIVE IN or you DON'T. Then even if Maan was iniating the Kiss in the Pee Loo segment she should have SLAPPED Maan then and there and also today she should have not let Maan touch her when she herself is in not sure.

Remember she already had gone through a traumatic past then how come she can give in the emotional moment when she herself is searching for an answer. I never wanted this just for Parineeta Metaphor Theory. In Parineeta Metaphor theory it's all about submitting your Heart and Soul which Maan did but what about Geet??? Without giving her heart how come she gave in to Maan in Soul??? Utter crap of my theory been done by the Channel. I will not blame Nissar here and I will blame only the Channel.

But, still I will say that the Bench Scene was more passionate than the Roop scene as of today.

Lets me talk about the "Roop Tera" Seq. and then will sign off. Well the execution as I said was Clich and looked like a '70s movie packaged in 2010. But this was not the way. Execution was way damn pathetic and the way Geet fell on the bed to submit herself to Maan was something I felt like happens red light areas. The emotions were not at all there in Maan and Geet's expressions. Gurmeet and Drashti. Sorry for using this phrase but I would have loved if she would have turned around and hugged him when he was holding her waist or She would walked a little backwards and leaned on his chest then that would have been sophisticated. It's a Pathetic editing or direction I seriously donno. Anyway Monday we will see the completion of possible.

I don't want any pathetic ending of Parineeta Metaphor. Mind it. Just rectify it.

And after today's scene if on Monday Geet doesn't say that she believes him and put the TAVEEZ on him then I will lose all the hope in this series.

I will not give any verdict until and unless I watch Monday's episode. And If they show that Geet did not clarify Maan's question then I will not leave the CVs and Channel for sure on Monday. Nissar you have all the sweet time in the world on saturday and sunday to reshoot the scene of Monday's episode and better you clarify Maan's question by Geet answering and submits her heart to Maan. Or you can only do the damage control by making this as the dream sequence of Geet and through her self analogy she submits herself to Maan. This is the only way you can rectify the mistake that you have done.

Overall a Pathetic and an illogical Episode.

Over to you all to join the discussion. Feel free to shoot me:-

Edited by doodleberry - 14 years ago
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Dear friends, I have things to say and I start with a sigh.

Maybe it the right time to tell you all that I was all along clear about the "roop" sequence. That is why I have no complain about it. The song itself justifies whatever they wanted to portray. They never intended to show anything intense, sweet, romantic or passionate. Rather wanted to show "common mistakes/incidents" and that's what they pictured and that's why this song. The team knows how to picture all kinds of emotions very well. All the song adopted in this show so far reflected the feelings of the performers and so did this one. This "roop" sequence is just another situation like the "hum tum" episode. But this time things got a little intimate only because their relationship status has been upgraded since then. So doodle don't worry, your parineeta methaphor is not completed yet. And when it takes place you'll get the most romantic song. You'll know when its coming by the song itself! Or if they decide to complete it in Monday then you'll get your "ooo" wala mahi tune for sure!

Now about geet, she is just a representative of the mistake of the whole team. I feel like going back to my confession story. Maan-geet on the river of confession on a boat of faith where silly geet kept making holes on the boat and now its drowning; and with her the whole team. After they drown, there will be all confessions but no life. Some people's learning starts in the grave! Poor souls!

I always comprehend what the team is showing but I never understand why? I asked Mr. nissar "why"? I know there will be no answer but I so wanted to ask that! Starting from the truth revelation scene, if the team had every intension to unite them the next moment in the station then why not at the real moment in the conference room? Why couldn't maan console her then and say that she has got one "friend" (not lover) and that is maan? If they did that, then today geet's doubt would have been logical. They ruined maan's character then by a pathetic statement then made up forcefully and now ruined geet's character with another pathetic sentence and I really wonder what's in store for us on Monday.

Doodle says that Mr. Nissar is an expert in drawing circles, its his favourite shape that makes him different from the other directors. Where other directors keep drawing triangles our G-Team draws circles. I think this is the reason why geet and maan always end up in square 1, because they are actually running in circles. So to make something "a whole" Mr Nissar needs to draw the shape of yin-yang and not just circles. He needs to draw inside the circle too.

Ironically the day doodle started having complete faith in mr. nissar, things started to get messy. All of a sudden the editors were on an editing spree, story started to lose consistency. Before her total faith in him and when she used to say "disgusting nissar", there never lacked consistency. Some bloopers were there but not ambiguity.

Finally once again, I have no complain about the roop sequence neither do I have any complains about the other parts of the episode. I only wonder who's writing the story nowadays! All of a sudden they fly to manali, all of a sudden a client gets geet engaged in a marketplace, all of a sudden maan gets over geet…………Why? Who really asked for a pre make out scene for no good reasons? Why rush? What's going on? Something very wrong is going on out there and the show may be losing a huge number of viewers soon if it keeps going on this way. Geet team, plz note that we love this show for the storyline and the performance of the whole team. We love it because of all the hindi serials, this one makes sense. If you're trying to take the "sense" away then you are no different than the others. I am utterly shocked. Whoever interfering in the story and in the execution is doing a bad job and making a huge mistake. I wish I could save the show.

Prayers, prayers and prayers……

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Geet's current status

MAAN SINGH KHURANA'S FINACEE MISSING

Geet Handa- Fiancee of Maan Singh Khurana, MD of Khurana Construction has been reported as missing since last Friday night. She was last seen at 9:40PM. 24, September, 2010 roaming around the Manali market buying bangles. She is described as fair female, 5'4", 110lbs, slim build, brown eyes and long brown hair. She was wearing a yellow salwar kameez and chappal.

She is diagnosed to be suffering from amnesia and she needs to be reminded of her status of life everyday. Without it she is always in doubt and at times completely lost. Anyone who may have had contact with geet are requested to check the following things once they meet her.

1. Ask her anything, if she denies, then maybe you're close.

2. Make a statement and ask her to say it back after 10 mins. If she forgets, then positive.

3. Show her something genuine and ask for her opinion. If she replies "fake" then its definitely her.

4. Ask her to walk anywhere indoor; if her dupatta gets stuck then your good luck brought you to the right person.

5. Ask her where she wanna be? If the reply is "square 1" then immediately contact the following address.

Maan Singh Khurana

Outhouse (tabela)

Delhi.

Avoid contacting:

1. Khurana Construction (Dev is there) and

2. Hoshiarpur

Anybody with any information about her whereabouts will be highly compensated.

Caution: Do not by mistake touch her dupatta, it turns her on and only Mr. Maan knows where the switch off button is.

Edited by taqdir - 14 years ago
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hey everyone!

So, all of us had mixed expectations from the episode..wondering if we will get edited seq or not, wondering what will happen and what not.

And we got a mixed delivery.

Confused is what I would call this episode.
It left me extremely confused..but perhaps while writing I will find links.

Let me tease out this episode to make it seem coherent.

1 thing that was for sure is that GC and DD were uncomfortable- I don't know if it was their characters...but it seemed awkward in some parts.

2. It's a very subjective view of the sequence n following part. I found it hot. It left me super confused as to dream and reality, but it was hot. I will not deny that.
Again- IT's subjective so...if some or most didn't like it- it's their opinion😳😉

3. Geet's dialogue really made people angry...

Let me try and understand this.

Maan Singh Khurana
has been giving signs and indications of being in love; has made Geet wear the ring again and again- thrice; has knelt down and stopped her; has told her he cannot live without her; has accepted her with her past.

Read on..
Has dragged her from here to there; has asked her to tell everyone that they are engaged; has LABELLED her as HIS; has 'covered her up' because he doesn't want anyone looking at her; hasn't said this is for you.

GEET
I agree..I agree she is a confused Atma.
but I don't blame her.

has been wooed, seduced, disposed; left pregnant;told to abort and refusing has left family after trying to be killed by brother; found in Maan a savior, a boss, a GREAT dance partner, a friend, a FAKE mangetar; she has feelings- but why do we think she wants to get married?

she says "main apni nayi zindagi ki shuruat karne jaa rahi hoon"
did she say Maan?
She said this after her past wala dialogue- she likes maan..no, she loves maan, she wants to be in a relationship with him.
Does she say she wants to MARRY him?

"aaj mere liye aapse badh kar kuchh nahi hai"- does she say she wants them to be married?

MArriage hasn't been brought into their minds...

Maan wasn't even thinking of marriage..was he?

HE is still not there yet.

As far as I have understood from Doodle, Gou di and Jyo di about the Parineeta theory- it can happen only when there is complete giving in right?
Full union of souls- emotionally, physically and spiritually.
😳

HOW Can they be MArried, even symbolically when they aren't even conscious of staying together forever?

Geet's and MY problem is the fact that MAan IS treating her like his possession

There is a difference between possessiveness and possession.

Dragging Geet from here to there might have looked cute, but tell me?

How many women would like to be dragged from here to there without rhyme or reason?
Remember- Geet didn't know why she was being told to go here and there.
How will she know...she isn't noticing guys looking at her, is she?

She is angry- EXACTLY why I said I was angry yesterday..."sirf meri"

"maan ki Geet"

It may seem romantic but it is objectifying this woman.

He gave her a chance to speak and she didn't speak up because to him...it's still a LIE- their relationship isn't...but their mangni is- because he has not told her that he wants to marry her.

Fine, cliched ILU - she doesn't need...but she needs to know if this she CAN give in to him.

Because LAst time it happened, and she gave in- she was pretty much discarded.

I might come out of this as confused..but I CAN understand her hesitation.


HE got angry.
She was hurt...she wanted him to tell her that it is real for him- that he wants to spend his life with her..

OR

She wanted him to be gentle and give her bhaaw... and he didn't..
She is a stubborn girl.

Of course she is- she wants HIM to seek her out.
NOT drag her from here to there.

This is what I feel.

That is why she was so obstinate in the snow scene.

But then, he is dragging and pulling her again...
He wants to protect her...BUT he is trying to make her SUBMIT.
I guess I am expecting too much from him...

Then, he gave her the reason why he wants her to submit- this time..it is for her

"beemaar padh jaaogi"

and he picks her up and takes her in.

LOL at "pehenlo warna pehnaa doonga"

That just cracked me up!!
LAgta hai yeh mandap mein bhi aise hi ladenge...😆

LOOK at that sneaky smile...that she has listened to him finally...GOd, he seems relieved..

Hormonal no-bhool

Well..ab kyaa...hormones start raging in munda and kudi is shy.
Awkward cuz he doesn't know how to react.
she's awkward because she feels she can't give in yet.

She SUBMITS to HER passion after her x-rated imagination.

His passion is barely in control...it's like a tiger just about to jump...LOL

Like I said, I found it hot but felt GC and DD were awkward- perhaps their characters were...I don't know..

FIRE- symbolic- his passion is high here..LOL

NOw I say they didn't consummate, because she didn't give in...
AND he was trying to prove a point- that it is more than a fake mangni for him.

HE asked her if this was enough for her to believe he was serious.

NOW he must tell her and so can she.

And hence the promo...

The ehsaas- has to be named now- CLiched ILU?
Or making official their relationship before DADI makes it socially official?

They NEED to be STOP all the restraints and now tell each other how they feel.

I believe NOW Maan should be shown without ego, and with love.
Geet said her past won't come between them; she felt it today- that it did...psychologically...wasn't it her confusion at a deeper level that stopped her?

The song becomes apt and ironic...

"bhool koi humse na ho jaaye"

Nahi hui bhool..
IT has to be a deliberate acceptance and giving in of feelings...right?

I can't think anymore..
Will wait for monday for loop to be completed.

As a whole, the episode was a disaster really- EDITING toh I won't even mention, execution etc?
Like I said- it was CONfused episode.
I don't know who to blame for what.

I did NOT like the episode..it didn't feel I was watching GEET HSP.
I'm disappointed.

At the end of writing this take- I am disappointed today. For genuinely the first time- WHAT WAS this??? WHY WAS this done??

That is all from me today
I'm sorry if I offended anyone..didn't mean it like that.
I didn't expect much...but this was far below what even I expected.

love to all



Edited by geet.a - 14 years ago
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Here's my take....its also on pg. 1



Hello darlings!!! I was in a very bad mood about today's episode today. But after careful consideration I have come to a verdict. The episode was okay. It could have been much better, but it was not all bad.

Things I liked.....

1. The bench scene. Do I even need to explain why? This was much better than the song sequence.

2. "Roop tera mastana" , yes I said I liked it, but you messed up here CV's. I did not love it as much as I did with all the other romantic sequences you created. It was not good enough and you did not live up to the expectations. Very poor execution and yes I noticed that there was scenes chopped off by the editor. There was something missing. This could have been executed in a much better fashion. And its obvious the channel is giving in to the demands of those political/social groups. How pathetic! These people don't watch your show, we do! Please explain why your trying to satisfy them, instead of us.

Things I did not like at all....

1. Maan and Geet bickering the in the beginning. I did not like it especially because Maan had finally told her she was "his". Geet was actually happy and smiling, then today's epi begins and we get a 360 turn on her part.

2. Geet still thinking their engagement was fake. Ermmm'.what more does Maan need to say to convince her? Yes I understand she wants clarification, but how about asking him "where exactly is our relationship standing?", instead of acting like a 5 year old. I also get that she's annoyed with his over protectiveness and controlling nature, but that was the wrong time to bring that up. She needs to do things in a mature manner. Stop ruining her character with all this juvenile non sense.

3. Maan being mean to her and telling her to go to Bunty. He provoked her to answer back with immaturity. Once again this was not the time. Maan needs to stop talking to her so rudely. She's his fiance now and he needs to respect her more and stop being so controlling. At that moment he needed to tell her that he really considers her his fiance not argue back. Its called damage control!

Now Cv's and Star One needs to do some serious damage control next week.

What we should have seen.....

1. Geet giving Maan a hug or kiss for finally saying "sirf mere"

2. Maan and Geet have a heart to heart conversation on their relationship status.

3. Both of them declaring that they love each other.

4. Both of them declaring that their engagement was in fact real.

5. Then go to the cottage and get on with their romance without holding back.

Now that would have been perfect and all the viewers would have been satisfied.

Here is my advice on what should be done....

1. Maan directly tells Geet that the engagement is real, so she no longer has doubts.

2. Geet tells Maan how she feels about him without hesitation and in clear terms.

3. A passionate sequence between Maaneet after they give their direct declarations of love.

4. Maan must make it clear that HE needs Geet in his life. That is what she wants to hear.

Cv's and Star One do you see what you editing did to today's epi? Star One was so determined to get the romance track started that they forgot that they were leaving behind all logic and angry viewers who are confused. Not once did you guys clarify in any epi that Geet thought the engagement was still fake. Well, Geet team had shot a scene with this idea but Star One used their obtuse minds to edit the scene out. Now look at how it's come back to haunt you. The very poor editing of the "Roop tere mastana" scene has many viewers confused as to what really happened during that scene. Do some investigation on IF and FB and you will see. This is what you get for trying to rush things for the sake of TRP's. The audience was very excited to see the sequence and you kept them on their toes all week. But then they ended up getting something far below expectations. Now tell me what will happen to your TRP when the viewers are fed up? Just so you know the audience also does not mind bold scenes. Please do not suppress your selves because of the pressure of social groups.

Cv's the execution with all the scenes today was bad (except the bench scene in the snow). Nissar I was expecting so much more from you on this. You all have given us some really romantic and passionate scenes, but "Roop tere mastana" did not have that same magic and touch. I'm not sure if it was because parts were edited out, but you still could have done more with the scenes. Like I said both the channel and you all need to do damage control for everything that went wrong since the trains station proposal. Please keep the logic along with the romance in the show. That is what us viewers want.

Overall an average episode.

Edited by ann65 - 14 years ago
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Yesterday's episode was supposed to be a landmark episode. It was a landmark but not for the reasons we wanted it to be. It was marred by shoddy editing, incompetent execution, untied loose ends, glaring bloopers and most of all silly fights and inconsistent characterizations 👎🏼. On the bright side we got great performances from our leads 👍🏼 and maybe some movement in their relationship (I say maybe because the final act remains and hopefully will be aired on Monday).


The proper basis for marriage is mutual misunderstanding. – Oscar Wilde

If Wilde is to be believed then Maaneet will have a blissful union. 🤣 🤣 🤣


The episode opened with a another silly unnecessary fight between Maan and Geet 😕. I initially thought that only Geet was in the wrong, but after consulting with other devils and careful rumination, it is clear that the fact of the matter is that both were in the wrong. For some reason these two seem to bring out the best and the worst in each other. They fight like small kids. 😆 😆 😆

Geet's background of a fake marriage and unsupportive family is still very insecure especially since Maan has not made a formal proposal to her. Geet in many ways is still a child who was forced to grow up too early and this childishness comes out in the oddest ways – be it throwing water on his face from the fountain or picking silly fights when she feels he is being domineering. Maan was being possessive and not allowing Geet to be herself and this did not sit well with her. He is the one who tells her to be independent and runs to fix things at the slightest sign of trouble. That is great and very commendable on Maan's part, but Geet is feeling slighted and strikes out with words. At some level I feel Geet is unable to believe her own luck that Maan really loves her and is willing to accept her inspite of her blighted past. Her outbursts are directly related to this.😳


Maan has shown her in various ways and even said he wants to spend his life with her. But it has always been "I cannot live without you" or "You have become a habit of mine". He has never outright said "I need you to be in my life and want to spend the rest of my life taking care of you and the baby". Now before you jump at me I agree he has done a lot for her – but put yourself in Geet's shoes. She needs some solid commitment from him in the form of a promise to be there for her and the baby. He has never mentioned the baby and he needs to reassure her that he will treat the child as his. 😳


I think the bench scene was the highlight of the episode 👏 👏 👏. Maan was his arrogant self and did not take no for an answer. Theirs is a complicated relationship on so many fronts (and I am not even talking about the fact that she was previously fake-married and is pregnant). These two love each other and will willingly give their lives for each other. But there are many unresolved issues between them. They need to talk and figure things out – they need to bare their souls to each other before they take the next step in their relationship and that much needed conversation is coming soon I hope. 😳


The "Roop Tera Mastana" sequence was not bad by itself except that it was hyped so much that the expectations were gargantuan 😡. I do not even know why this was necessary when a conversation and a bone crushing hug could have accomplished much the same 🤔. To make matters more interesting there are all kinds of theories flying around – one section feels Maan was testing Geet while another feels Geet was testing Maan 🤣 🤣. I feel that the channel is testing our patience 😡. But it has left a lot of people feeling confused 😕 😕 😕. There are umpteen posts on whether Maan and Geet consummated, made out, did not make out etc 😆 😆 😆. Congrats you got the buzz you wanted. You got to have your cake and eat it too, but you know what they say too much cake can give you indigestion. Remember that. 😡


There were major bloopers like where did Maan's jeans come from? How did Maan's short sleeved shirt morph into a long sleeved shirt on Geet? Of the editing the less said the better. Message to star one "fire the editors, but only after firing the one who asked them to edit in the first place"😡 😡 😡 😡


Now both DD and GC were outstanding in yesterday's episode 👏 👏 👏. Dhrasti looked very beautiful and Gurmeet looked dashing. Both emoted beautifully which added to my sadness when I realized all the great scenes we missed out on because of one of your inept editors.😭


My fellow devils have convinced me that there is more to come on Monday and I am willing to wait. Do not screw up on Monday 😡 😡 😡. Maan and Geet may have their internal squabbles because they are very different personalities, raised in vastly different surroundings, with different ways of looking at the world which in turn is shaped by their unique personal experiences. But the fact remains that these two in spite of their differences are made for each other. They will change each other's lives for the better and we need to be able to believe that and see that on the screen. So we need them being more open with each other. Maan displays ownership of Geet but Geet has never done the same. We need scenes of her showing that she owns Maan and also some scenes where these two spontaneously display their affection for each other like an impromptu hug.


I will end with this anonymous quote "Soulmates are people who bring out the best in you. Soulmates are not perfect but are always perfect for you. "

Neither of Maan nor Geet is perfect - both have their flaws - that is the beauty of these characters and makes them all the more interesting and human. This is their journey of understanding each other and learning to accept the other with all their flaws and then learn to live together. We hope you will show us the journey in a fashion that we are not forced to play connect the dots or fill in the blanks. We want to be part of this journey and hope that you will be more consistent with the characterizations of the lead characters, the execution of certain scenes, keep chopping important scenes to a minimum and also not lose track of the original story line. Your storyline is bold but you are compromising it for the sake of TRPs and certain vested interests. Stop taking this short term view and think long term. If you do this than nothing can stop this series from going down in history as one of the best and memorable series ever made.


Good luck

Jhan

Edited by liv2laugh - 14 years ago
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COMING SOON - POSSIBLE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS😆 answers will be serious ones.

EDITOR OF GEET SHOW- YOU SUCK AT YOUR JOB THESE DAYS😡


Geet, did you just forget the horrible "railway station scene where Maan bent on knees to make you wear the ring" seqeunce?🤣 I cannot forget that torturous scene. How could you?🤣 How could you question Maan about this fake fiancee thing?

Answer - See Geet is a family girl. Agreed that Maan wore her a ring in front of bunch of people at railway station but she wishes him to do that in front of his family and friends now. Geet is demanding for official commitment from Maan. She has already been duped once. Therefore, she is treading carefully now. She knows deep down her heart that Maan loves her unconditionally. All that she requires is a stamp on their relationship.

Secondly, Geet does like to be treated like a kathputli in hands of Maan. They need to have a serious conversation regarding this so that both Maan and Geet gets to understand each others POV on this subject.

As far as Maan is concerned, he is just one hell of a possessive lover. He can beat SRK of Darr anytime😆. God! look at the way he grabbed Geet in snowfall scene. I felt erotic😳 He was conveying to her ki "marzi toh meri hi chalegi, but for your betterment sweetheart".😳

Maan, it seems you spent your proteins to keep urself hot in snow🤣 how come your clothes did not get wet?🤣

Answer - that was a blooper in my eyes. 😆 Geet was all wet and Maan was standing like in same condition as before. 😆

Maan did you forget to take the protein shakes before going for the roop tera sequence?🤣

Answer - Well, I will say that it looked thanda sequence to me. Maan can ooze out thousand times more passion than what he showed in roop tera. Should I blame Mahila mukti now?😡

Geet, where did you find the dhoti?🤣 ]

Answer - Again a blooper😆

Geet, when you fell half on bed, then why did you lie down?🤣 It looked mechanical🤣

Answer - dhrashti, that bit looked awkward. You just fell on bed suddenly. It could have been slow or Maan could have lie you down.😳

Maan, why did you just lie down beside her, wasnt there anything better and hotter to do?🤣

Answer - Well, again this did not go well with me. He is Maan after all! I have some expectations from him when it comes to passion. I thought he is gonna bend on her. when I want him t bend, he does not.😆

Maan, when the kudi was getting turned on, why did you leave? was it like "tit for tat?🤣

Answer - Here I feel, Maan was just gauging her feelings and desire for him.😳 He left so that he can see whether Geet comes to him herself or not.

Maan, when you were about to do something finally, why did you start asking logical questions? You knew that kudi gonna run away🤣she hates logic sometimes.

Answer - I think the question was good before he makes the final move. He is assuring her of her dignity. He showed her that its not wrong or false in his eyes but does she think so? I am waiting what Geet has to say about this. Probably we will see her POV on Monday😳 Nissar better come up with good dailogues for Geet.😡

Precap- It indicates that next week,
perhaps, Geet gonna declare her love for Maan
, Official engagement announcement. and few other events may take place like Dev-Geet confrontation,

I also have a feeling that Dev gonna turn negative once he comes to know that Geet is carrying his child.





Edited by palluluvsarmaan - 14 years ago
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Errm🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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NOthing but inconsistencies!

My short take today, this is why Im fuming! 😔

Yes, the first part was a bit OTT, but Maan deserved it, on the other hand he is very protective when it comes to Geet, just instant reaction from him. His heart was broken when she said it was fake and he was doing all this for him. I truly felt bad for him. Did she not hear him when he said to her, i don't want to know about ur past, i want to be ur present and future. Did the CV's forget this part and make Geet look like an idiot today. Do they not remember what Geet said yesterday, that no one is above and beyond him! He has accepted her with her past. Here we thought it was a confession by Geet, yet again CV's are hell bent to confuse us even more. Maan screamed his lungs out "MAAN KI GEET" Geet, Maan Singh Khurana ki mangethar hai, so how can this be fake, did the creatives forget all these confessions. Im left confused, as to how they showed all this and yet fake!

For crying out loud, he was on his knees in front of the world and what did we say, he confessed and wanted to make it real cause he wanted the world to know she is his, when will CV's and Geet realize this.

How many times does Maan need to confess his feelings for Geet! What are the dam creatives doing here...confusing us and the characters!

Was it necessary for him to get in xrated mood and then mention to her does this look fake to you!

Geet was ready to give herself to him, but in respect he didn't do anything with her, gotta hand it to this man, how did he control himself! 😆

Hopefully Geet will relize what Maan did today, but I don't think he needed to go to that extent to prove its not fake!


Creatives, this is my biggest issue today, what the hell do you remember and don't you. I understand scenes are shot and u have to cut and paste, still proper editing and consistencies in characters these issues will never come up!

Only consistency u seem to have is to goof up the episodes for Tuesdays and Fridays! Bheja Fry!!!

Edited by 49erFan - 14 years ago

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