Member Topic: Do you support the queer community? - Page 3

I can say I identify as a trans Royal. I believe I am the Queen.

I believe it. But I need you to believe it. You must believe it. I have rights. So call me by the right pronouns.

My pronouns as a trans Royal would be.. 🤔

I EXPECT YOU TO KNOW. Its only one out of the 100038663512 options.

Thanks.

Why is this a question or debate topic to you in the first place?

This is a bad faith question.

I didn't like the wording either...but I liked some takes (serious ones and funny ones) on the "community".

If only mankind would change/abolish some absolutely unnecessary norms/standards/rules/references/stereotypes and concentrate first and foremost on what all living people have in common (e.g. basic physical and emotional needs), those questions wouldn't even arise.

The chemistry in our bodies determines a lot of our emotional leanings and all shades/directions are possible and have the same right to exist. What gives us the right to judge a person as long as this person doesn't harm another one. Shouldn't we start by ourselves what we can do better instead of first wanting to impose our whishes and beliefs onto others...

It's the same with the kids...the only thing I impose: don't harm another person deliberately (physically /emotionally)...if you do accidentally or by mistake, apologize and learn from it...and tell me if I don't follow this rule myself.

Originally posted by: YourCat

https://youtu.be/AKRr94ssnQo

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130881/Melbourne-private-school-teenager-identifies-cat-furry-trend.html

🤣🤣 I am the teacher and I resign

Whatever it takes to get attention... our attention seeking culture has brought the invention of internet...so why not use it 😆

If only his school/peers/family would be his public, that identification may die a silent death... (maybe some gentle strokes and a "poor cat" loving words would have helped him to overcome that 'identification')

LGB - I , yes.

Not TQ+. Especially the current type of T-ism that is being taken advantage of by men - to get into women’s sports (lia, cece and so on), men trying to and getting into women/girls spaces (like school bathrooms) to molest and rape them. *
And I am extremely against the T-ism that children as young as 4 are being subjected to. I am Against surgeries done on kids in the name of them being T, against putting them on irreversible hormones after just 1 visit to a doctor.

The T has taken down this whole community. The real Ts need help, professional, medical. But they have been hijacked by some very powerful pharma companies that have an agenda.

*these are men, with their man parts still intact. They just woke up one day and identified as a “woman” and entered female swimmer changing rooms and started changing- displaying their man parts to girls, who had to bear it else they are T-phobes. This is one of many many examples.

There are bad faith actors in every community. Using those individual examples that often have no basis in statistics, to argue for offing an entire community is a choice. It's like saying, some women misuse dowry laws. So I don't support women. ☢️

Nope. I am a masochist who likes to indulge in self-loathing and self-flagellation. 😆

Originally posted by: diasingh2

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4. I personally feel that if the Gay/Bi/Lesbian community had used the work "Union" or "Association" instead of the word 'marriage' for their relationships and asked the government to legalize their union/association between 2 consenting adults and asked for similar rights as a "married couple", then it would've been a far easy fight.
   It might have opened up the minds of our orthodox and traditional society far more easily. Using the term "Gay Marriage" attracted unnecessary hate because it was bound to create controversies.
   Love is love at the end of the day, and getting legal recognition as a couple is more important than getting the "marriage tag".

I am curious why some people have an obsession with the heteronormative concept of marriage. This is a general question and not addressed to you or anyone in particular.

People have been married to seal business deals and keep bloodlines pure. People have been married to ensure heirs to thrones and keep a tight hold on wealth. People can order a mail-order bride or have their parents fix them up with someone they will never see before a wedding. Why does this institution that has unfathomable corrupt and insidious uses evoke any sense of sanctity or purity?

Marriage is both a sociocultural and legal construct. People have their personal and religious notions about marriage. They will have marriage ceremonies that reflect their belief and faith. And yes, to some people marriage is the ultimate expression of love and commitment. But clearly, it means different to different people. So how can something that adapts to each couple be inadaptable to others.

Most importantly in most nations, the ceremonies, the vows, and the rituals are all meaningless without a piece of paper issued by courts. The USA and other nations had civil unions and domestic partnerships. But they were legally diluted substitutes for marriage. In most nations, full legal protections for a couple and their children (natural and adopted) are provided under marriage.

Gay and lesbian couples were fighting for equitable legal rights to protect their families. It just so happened that the legal rights fell under the marriage tag. The pragmatic thing to do was to expand the marriage tag, just as it had been done in the 60s to include interracial couples.

Let's say instead of gay marriage, LGBTQ+ couples had a separate institution called "Bob." First, they have to go through the whole legal process of establishing a second institution, "Bob" that has all the rights of marriage. But in addition, now they have to address - what if heterosexual couples want to apply for Bob? Then tax forms, passport and visa forms, school admission forms, and all sorts of forms across industries and sectors have to be updated to include Bob next to marriage. Now there is the matter of international affairs. We have to convince other nations that Bob is a clone of marriage and that our Bobbed citizens should get the same rights as married citizens abroad. And what if USA makes Bob and Canada makes Goose and UK makes Pringles and Australia makes Roos - how are we to keep the Bobs and Gooses and Pringles and Roos straight. If one is married in USA they are married in Canada. Now a person who is Bobbed in USA has to get Goosed in Canada. And if they move to UK they will get Pringled.

So gay marriage may create controversy for the naysayers. But in the grand scheme of things it is a pragmatic solution. The alternates are impractical and expensive and confusing.

If it looks like a marriage, talks like a marriage, acts like a marriage, it is a marriage. Besides, Bob would be some weird Jim Crow - separate but equal shit as well. It would give the opportunity for all kinds of places to have Bobbed vs married sections and entrances - as long as they are equal they can be separated right?

Originally posted by: Sense9

LGB - I , yes.

Not TQ+. Especially the current type of T-ism that is being taken advantage of by men - to get into women’s sports (lia, cece and so on), men trying to and getting into women/girls spaces (like school bathrooms) to molest and rape them. *
And I am extremely against the T-ism that children as young as 4 are being subjected to. I am Against surgeries done on kids in the name of them being T, against putting them on irreversible hormones after just 1 visit to a doctor.

The T has taken down this whole community. The real Ts need help, professional, medical. But they have been hijacked by some very powerful pharma companies that have an agenda.

*these are men, with their man parts still intact. They just woke up one day and identified as a “woman” and entered female swimmer changing rooms and started changing- displaying their man parts to girls, who had to bear it else they are T-phobes. This is one of many many examples.

What in the world do you think Q stands for?