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what I found most hilarious in both seasons of KZK is:

1) Anurag married komolika out of majboori, Prerna lectures him and hates him.

2) Prerna marries Mr. Bajaj out of majboori, Anurag lectures her and hates her.

Like they both did exactly the same thing with each other and yet had the balls to play the victim card. And both Komolika and Mr. Baja join hands to separate Anurag Prerna later on, what a masterpiece by Ekta, i do not understand why did she reboot this show, it was already very regressive to be honest.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

For one no story or none of the characters have any similarity with AB , B, or P of S1 other than names ,ONS and sneha and a leap .

Anurag2 is remake of Sujjal 😆 (has more similarities with Robbie who was also copy of Sujjal )and Kzk 2 is remake of Kasturi which has similarities to KTH sold in brand name of one of ektas most successful show KzK. But in both kth and kasturi FLs were hatke. The main leads were a combo. Sujjal and Robbie were very popular among trp audience.

Bajajs characterisation is new😆 from psycho to love sick puppy in one day . Fact is that they CVs never bothered about Pre or B in S2 . No wonder Bajaj never looked Bajaj .B1 was grey, Classy ,Sophisticated , with a heart of gold. His redemption track is best among Ekta's MLs. Bajaj1 took 15 years to get into Prernas heart and after that no looking back.

P1 was an ideal wife and mother unlike P2 . Bajaj fell for her beauty too both in and out. Reason Y Bajaj fell for P2 is still unknown🤣

And there is no AnuNePrekokyuMara in S1. It was A who killed B which was a MU. Pre shoot A and take revenge and she serves her sentence. She didn't hide what she did she surrunders in front of police. At that time Pre was grandmother😆

AnuPre S1 was 2 times star jodi not like S2 who r name sake popular😆. And Bajaj was One Man against AnuPre . He was even more popular 🤣 than them. He has the highest number of individual awards. And PreRish were Jodi Bemisal at SPA . Anurag looked like a puppy infront of Bajaj in charisma , characterisation and calibre.

S1 B marries P when she was in love with B and Bajaj tries hard that Pre go back to Anu and play happy family but she took decesion to remain unmarried if Bajaj never marries her . That is where Pre was progressive😳 she never needed a man. Lol even the dupata was flying towards Anu 😆 title song was playing . But it was Pres decesion she won't marry Anu . No godess was there. PreRish starts with Bajajs entry and it took 2 more years Pre slowly fall for Bajaj. First he became father to her kids then her lover and then her husband. Where as in S2 pre was out of syllabus.

And really Pre don't take bullet for Anurag at the end. Komo shoots Bajaj at head and was critical. And Pre had a fight with Komo .. Anu was there. Anu and Komo fights for Gun . Gun shot and hits Pre. It waa Anu responsible for her injury . Pre dies and Anu sits there and dies😂. And Bajaj lives in memory of Pre. Prem writes story of Prerna.

with 3 marriages 7 kids and many grand kids Bajaj and Pre were the real soulmates and Anupre was rail ki Patri in correct sense.

First of all..20 years is not a huge time.gap in which our morals ethics values and way of life changes. We r pretty much the same , only with advanced technology at our disposal, rest , the humanity overall is regressing.."enjoying life" means alcohol, drugs , partying so on. "Family life " means a life without parents. Relationships are more fragile bec everyone is generally inept to handle the stress and complications of life for which they r only responsible In a way..rate of divorce , family feuds, cheating on the bf gf or partners is normal and at all time.high . Priorities are money, travelling , having luxury items at their disposal . Education means learning how to earn money. So really, I am quite surprised with Erica's statement on what worked 20 yrs bk , she is talking like a novice. Unless I know what she was hinting at , it's useless to judge it. Stories which worked 50 yrs bk will also work now , they must know how to sell it.

I digressed sorry. Lol . Completely agree with u. A fleeting moment of kzk season 1 on star utsav, I felt like watching it again . That's how a good serial should be. Timeless. It was ,for a period of time..nvm .....it worked bec of its strong characters , and crisp writing . What really happened , who married whom and who loved whom and who didnt love whom doesnt really matter n it didnt decide the acceptance rate of the audience. It was a journey of some people and every journey is different . Kzk2 was a train wreck , it derailed after bajaj entered.

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

@bold: I felt that Ekta was right while she defined Anurag Prerna, if we leave season 2 alone, and just analyse season 1, Anurag Prerna were never meant to be together, they loved each other and felt every emotion for each other, which they would not have felt for their other spouses. Prerna married Mr.Bajaj, but in every aspect or event of her life, her judgements and decisions were triggered by Anurag, the right and confidence with which she always faced Anurag, she would never face anyone else. For example, she was able to forgive Mr. Bajaj for madhvi's child (I assume she knew and forgave him, I forgot the track actually) or even probably she would forgive him for any of his unfair actions because his betrayal or his actions could never hurt Prerna in the same way Anurag's action would do, Anurag would affect her the most, even his small mistakes would hurt her very much given he dominates her emotions like none. And it applies for Anurag too, while his redemption was the best tracks of season 1, be it his way of supporting and building up Prerna's career in his post komolika marriage track, or be it his guilt and constant grief of mistrusting Prerna about sneha's paternity, he would never be intense had he tried to redeem himself for any other woman.

At some point Prerna was obligated to think that she loves Bajaj, because that was what any righteous person would do, but Mr. Bajaj has not been a great character either, he misbehaved and left pregnant prerna just because she supported Anurag (who was almost dead and faced a tragedy), on top of that in every conversation he would remind prerna about how he helped her and 'permitted' her to sleep with Anurag for sneha, I understand it takes a big heart to do that but then what is the point if you remind her about the 'greatness' and make her feel guilty when she was not at fault. Season 1 Prerna was kind of ambiguous, she would be fair and confident when it came to facing Anurag, while she always was submissive when it came to Mr. Bajaj, which makes me believe that while Anurag never reinforced his rights, Mr. Bajaj was sly and manipulative, he could easily make Prerna believe that she is wrong in treating a great man like him lesser than Anurag.

In season 2, everything went for a toss, there were no redemptions, neither for Anurag, nor for Prerna, both were always stuck with sacrifices, which ruined all the essence, however there were small mercies like Prerna not marrying manipulative Bajaj and Anurag not blaming himself for everything that happens with Prerna, it was like a trend in season 1, everything happening with Prerna somehow became Anurag's case to solve, at some point it was hilarious 🤣

About Sujal, well if you want to, please watch him, one sujal is greater than every male lead of Ekta, he was and will remain the most enchanting and iconic male lead, he probably changed the trends of positive male leads into angry young brooding ones, a man of few words, and the show was from his perspective till Rajeev khandelwal quit.

Hiiii,

First time I m hearing such beautiful explaination of nuore love from s1.i felt Ekta's love for anupre during promotion launch of kzk 2 with parica.

Ekta was so excited and happy to reincarnation of her fvrt couple.Two people who love eachother immensely but can't be together due to unforeseen circumstances.

I really wanted to see the same pain,agony in anupre this season too.

True that I love anupre .and parica did complete justice to their role.But the way writing was done,the way cvs show anupre IQ level is negative,there was many time when it was hard to accept it.

The only thing I love about anupre despite everything was they both were flawed,selfish,love eachother.But how I wish ekta had shown character progression in them.

About Sujal ,I understand ur point of view.I m sure he must be good.But I can't take the risk of watching ekta show again.ekta can kill any couple for her ego.If she can do this to anupre her fvrt couple in kzk.then I can imagine what she must have done with Sujal and the girl opposite to him.she is sadist I must say.

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

Season 1 Prerna was kind of ambiguous, she would be fair and confident when it came to facing Anurag, while she always was submissive when it came to Mr. Bajaj

This was same with S2 Pre also.

Btw, thanks for presenting S1 KZK in a different perspective. This helped a lot to understand what EK was trying to do with KZK2 reboot and why what happened with it happened. Had she not try to go for the nostalgia associated with the show, probably she could have run the show in a better way for the last 1year.

anurag did not hate prerna.Bcz he was sure that like him she also married bajaj out of majboori n kept asking her to leave bajaj😃

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

what I found most hilarious in both seasons of KZK is:

1) Anurag married komolika out of majboori, Prerna lectures him and hates him.

2) Prerna marries Mr. Bajaj out of majboori, Anurag lectures her and hates her.

Like they both did exactly the same thing with each other and yet had the balls to play the victim card. And both Komolika and Mr. Baja join hands to separate Anurag Prerna later on, what a masterpiece by Ekta, i do not understand why did she reboot this show, it was already very regressive to be honest.

Also i feel EK should have never disclosed that she is rebooting kzk ...She should have introduced it as a fresh show only... Storyline she could have taken it from kzk but I wish she never disclosed it..

Some of the audience didn't watch this first only thinking it will be repetition of season 1...

Some of the audience who gave it a try thought this will be different but continued to have season 1 hangover at the back of their mind i.e whenever show took season 1 route...Audience didn't watch it because it became repetitive and they wanted fresh tracks....

Some of them watched it for the nostalgia factor but were disappointed as show not always took season 1 route and had some fresh tracks... fresh characters...

So i feel EK should refrain from saying that it's a reboot or remake of a previous show... Instead start a new show... By this she is free to show whatever she wants to show... And audience also has a choice to watch till its bearable and run away when it's not... Most importantly audience can think about future tracks without any foreshadowing and hangover at the back of their mind...

I think the concept of star-crossed lovers is a little hard to sell to the audience of ITV. Star- crossed lovers try with all there might to be together but can't for some external/internal influence that won't allow them to be. in s1 AnuPre didn't really fit that bill, they did up until they actually got togther. they had their shot but through their own misunderstandings, couldn't make it work. i think if they hadn't have gotten married & just kept trying, like they did for the rest of the show, then yes they could have been described as SC lovers. otherwise, they were like any other couple who got together but couldn't make it work (some people stay friendly with their exes, & yes, i realise they were more then friends 😑).

in s2 AnuPre seemed to fit the concept of SC lovers a little better except for the fact that it was their own stupidity that caused the kausauti's in the first place. i mean it was jammed down our throats that they were SOULMATES yet had nothing believable to support that. no trust, respect or communication. for a divinely blessed couple, who's supposedly made for each other, EK should have given them something which made the audience believe all that 🙄

i clearly remember EK saying before KZK started that AnuPre are 'rail patri kind of love' i.e. they'll love each other but NEVER meet. Barring the atrocious execution of the concept, AnuPre's fans started trending & creating noise of WeWantAnuPre...i mean did they not understand the concept 🤔 if you watch a show knowing you are going to get soo invested in the couple that you forget or blatantly ignore the CONCEPT... don't watch 😒 it's not that hard!

to cater & keep this fd satiated & still entice the other, EK lost the plot...literally she should have gone with one couple & one definitive plot, come what may. nowadays there's too much emphasis on the lead couple rather than the story, result everyone suffers, audience & show's quality 🤔

p.s the ending nullified the concept that EK was trying to show, star-crossed lovers don't get together at the end & live happily ever after like a domesticated couple, because otherwise they wouldn't be called star-crossed 🙄

Originally posted by: oa2019

I think the concept of star-crossed lovers is a little hard to sell to the audience of ITV. Star- crossed lovers try with all there might to be together but can't for some external/internal influence that won't allow them to be. in s1 AnuPre didn't really fit that bill, they did up until they actually got togther. they had their shot but through their own misunderstandings, couldn't make it work. i think if they hadn't have gotten married & just kept trying, like they did for the rest of the show, then yes they could have been described as SC lovers. otherwise, they were like any other couple who got together but couldn't make it work (some people stay friendly with their exes, & yes, i realise they were more then friends 😑).

in s2 AnuPre seemed to fit the concept of SC lovers a little better except for the fact that it was their own stupidity that caused the kausauti's in the first place. i mean it was jammed down our throats that they were SOULMATES yet had nothing believable to support that. no trust, respect or communication. for a divinely blessed couple, who's supposedly made for each other, EK should have given them something which made the audience believe all that 🙄

i clearly remember EK saying before KZK started that AnuPre are 'rail patri kind of love' i.e. they'll love each other but NEVER meet. Barring the atrocious execution of the concept, AnuPre's fans started trending & creating noise of WeWantAnuPre...i mean did they not understand the concept 🤔 if you watch a show knowing you are going to get soo invested in the couple that you forget or blatantly ignore the CONCEPT... don't watch 😒 it's not that hard!

to cater & keep this fd satiated & still entice the other, EK lost the plot...literally she should have gone with one couple & one definitive plot, come what may. nowadays there's too much emphasis on the lead couple rather than the story, result everyone suffers, audience & show's quality 🤔

p.s the ending nullified the concept that EK was trying to show, star-crossed lovers don't get together at the end & live happily ever after like a domesticated couple, because otherwise they wouldn't be called star-crossed 🙄

Well I don't think so there was star crossed lover theme in S1.Ronit Roy himself said his character was cameo.But due to popularity of actor,he became parallel lead at that time.But ekta started the show with anupre and she herself said her fvrt story is anupre from kzk.So for trp bapre were there at that time along with anupre were needed as show was based on them.

And she want to rectify some mistakes from last season.thats why reboot was launched.

With this kzk,she started with theme of star crossed lovers.But unfortunately she and her team did not understand the concept of star crossed lovers.After bjaj entry focus was completely shifted on nostalgia factor and offline buzzes instead of story writing and character building.

Yes I m happy with hea of anupre but it's a fact it's not the ending of star crossed lovers should have.

Originally posted by: surbhi1995

Well I don't think so there was star crossed lover theme in S1.Ronit Roy himself said his character was cameo.But due to popularity of actor,he became parallel lead at that time. But ekta started the show with anupre and she herself said her fvrt story is anupre from kzk.So for trp bapre were there at that time along with anupre were needed as show was based on them. there were multiple times throughout s1 that AnuPre tried to get together but couldn't (not counting the actual marriage). if Bajaj wasn't there she would have found something else to separate them as per the theme. it would have been better if she had skipped that step altogether. they were a more mature couple compared to the AnuPre of s2. s2 AnuPre probably feel like they fit the concept better because of the religious connotations & the over-hyped usage of the word SOULMATES 😒

In regards to AnuPre being her favourite, or not, isn't what my post was about. so that point's moot.

And she want to rectify some mistakes from last season.thats why reboot was launched. what mistakes she wanted to rectify, we'll never know & it doesn't matter anymore. she put to much of an emphasis on religious iconology to justify the concept of soulmate love but she failed to give them any solid foundation in which that was believable. absolutely no trust or communication between them. she could have shown them to be understanding & supporting of one another, even a little. she made them seem stupid & naive & this was even before Bajaj had come. not to mention the 'dhaga marriage' fiasco, combine this with the religious conditions that they constantly jammed down the viewers throats, it was insulting 😳

With this kzk,she started with theme of star crossed lovers.But unfortunately she and her team did not understand the concept of star crossed lovers. i agree they didn't really understand the concept & didn't have a great plot/plan bedside forced marriages. After bjaj entry focus was completely shifted on nostalgia factor and offline buzzes instead of story writing and character building. the characters were butchered in order to fit in the concept the CV's had in mind i.e multiple forced marriages 🙄 even if PreRish marriage didn't happen they would have gotten her married to someone else like Viraj. taking out Bajaj1 track then, most likely, everything still would have happened exactly the same. they had no other ideas, literally Bajaj just seems to be the scapegoat 🙄

Yes I m happy with hea of anupre but it's a fact it's not the ending of star crossed lovers should have.

if you notice not only kzk almost every couple in ekta shows are separated.they are together only for sometime n mostly they are separated. anupre1 got the name of star crosses lovers ink because the ending was tragic where as in other ekta shows thoughthe couples are separated always in the end they united.kzk1 ending was not re planned.that time even ekta had not planned to make it a star crossed lovers story.it was a sudden decision to end it like that.kzk1was never promoted as star crossed lovers story where as kzk 2 was promoted as star crossed lovers story only bcz it was the reboot of kzk1.even kzk1 anupre were not that mature.

compared to kzk1 there was more understanding among anupre1.cannot say that there was no trust between anupre2. anupre always trusted each other except the Times anurag married kamo n pushed prerna off the bridge.anyone will lose trust in that person n that's what prerna also did.but there was miscommunication because of stupidity.if they had shared the problems with each other they could have fought against all the odds together.

in every serial except kumkum n geet couples had lack of communication. I don't understand why in all other tv shows there is always lack of communication n hiding between couples.

ekta wanted to correct mistakes means. ..during s1 many people could not ask why anupre were termed as soulmates. because anupre always misunderstood each other..prerna kept slapping anurag n anurag married thrice to other women for stupid reasons.anupre had physical relationship with others.sneha was rejected by anurag n she was known as bajaj's daughter though anupre fans never wanted this to happen. prerna loved bajaj too n was living happily with him.suddenly she became happy to unite with anurag in heaven.so most of the people could not understand how and why anupre were known as soulmates. infact no anupre fan liked the death of anupre in the ending.ekta wanted to correct all these mistakes in this season.through out s2 anupre fans bashed ekta after the last episode they thanked ekta only because she corrected the above mistakes.

Originally posted by: oa2019