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Posted: 4 years ago
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@Doppleganger i wholeheartedly agree with you. marriage is the cornerstone of Asian society & something that connects families together. it being made a mockery of is insulting to say the least.

also as a non-hindu i have no idea how & what configures a hindu religious marriage ceremony. not just on ITV, but in Bollywood as well it's never depicted accurately. sometimes it's just sindoor, sometimes it has to be manglasutra & sindoor, other times it's invalid without pheray it's soo confusing i wish at least one medium displayed it correctly.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome post, Grace..

EK’s intuition of prime time (8p.m) being a risky slot was spot on. However, the Show did manage to garner decent TRPs initially. Nothing earth-shattering or out of roof, but good enough to revive the dead 8 p.m. slot. The reasons??? There can be many but allow me to put up the points that are solely mine..

The Show was hyped a lot, nostalgia also played a vital role in pulling in audience initially. Added to that AnuPre’s bond was innocent and organic. It was a gradual built-up and not a clichéd love-at- first-sight kind of a trope. Although writing has never been that great and wasn't anything memorable even then, yet it clicked with the general audience because of crisp execution and a consistent plot line.

Despite not so impressive writing, the creatives were able to extract the best out of the cast… And mind you, the Show does have a stellar cast. In addition, every character had a sub-plot that added something to the main plot. Even the character like Tapur contributed to Anurag-Prerna-Komolika’s story. I still remember Tapur’s engagement scene where Prerna asserts her rights as Anurag’s wife. Or Nabin Babu’s first wife Madhuri’s character that was pivotal in revealing Nabin Babu’s truth although she was a vamp in major part of her stint.. And how can we forget Nabin Babu -- the villian who was comic-and sinister at the same time. Even if there was no AnuPre anyday, there still used to be so much to look forward to in terms of different dynamics at play. Moloy-Mohini dynamics, Mohini's individual dynamics with her son and daughters, Anupam-Moloy, Anupam-Nivi, Anupam-Anurag dynamics at Basu household, Prerna's dynamics, especially the one with her father and even Komolika's with her siblings -- the Show never needed to rely on AnuPre. Individual characters were interesting as were their dynamics with other characters. We got to see some of the best acting from individual actors in this phase -- especially the actors playing Mo-Mo and Nivedita.

Post nine months, everything went haywire..

Firstly, this season, the “actors” were bigger than the characters. Despite Hina’s Bollywood projects, EK roped her in as Komolika. Likewise, her calculation went wrong when/if she thought that roping in a big name as Bajaj will be enough. She seemingly was sure that roping in another big name would compensate for the vacuum left by Hina. But she went wrong there.

No, it is not the actors’ fault . It was a combination of bad writing, direction/editing and execution. Ekta/Makers decided to jump straight away in establishing the other couple, even at the cost of butchering the individual core of Anurag and Prerna. This phase was extremely crucial in terms and writing and direction for the primary characters. However, instead of taking things slowly and organically, her makers decided to rush the things. Inconsistencies, loose ends and incoherence started becoming a part and parcel of every episode. Shivi’s pregnancy or lack of, Bajaj’s backstory with Basus or lack of, Kuki being Sneha or Kuki being Kuki. Likewise, Anurag was an ailing jilted lover one instant and a conspiring villain the next. Bajaj was a grey character one instant and black the very next. Prerna was a loyal wife one instant, an yearning lover the next…Central characters became inconsistent overnight, side characters/actors were reduced to props who had nothing to add to the story. They wasted potential of actors like maasi..

This phase also made makers' confusion as obvious as the daylight. As they did not want to let go of either fandom, carrot dangling became an everyday thing and a majority of viewers started disassociating themselves from the Show. In terms of plot and storyline, the only things we got to see was accident-hospital-court room drama on a loop. No wonder the Show started losing its moolah. The rushed and ignominious exit they gave to Bajaj was a testimony of overall ineptitude once again.

The same disconnect became detrimental for the Show’s longevity. Post new Komolika’s entry, the Show did climb steadily up the ratings which became short-lived due to EK's own stupidity. The phenomenon, according to me was culmination of two major factors:

1) The writers were either too complacent or extremely nonchalant in their job. They had forgotten what the central characters were supposed to be. They also failed to understand the modern day sentiments. Pregnant women subject to unnecessary troubles were no pleasant sights to behold. Neither was KL’s attempted marital date rape, post which the ratings started going downhill. The same phase also witnessed Viraj’s entry. Another actor with a tremendous potential was wasted because of lack of proper plot. Komolika was the only character that got the maximum screen space and footage as the writing went from bad to worse. Flying sindur, dupatta, half shaadi, tera pati mera hai, sautan drama became the major tropes in this phase.

2) The viewership has changed drastically in the interim: Steady rise in the rating to being the slot leader to a rapid nosedive. Viewers stayed put as long as the content was positive. The moment attempted marital molestation was shown, viewership started dispersing.

Then came that infamous Anurag Ne Prerna ko kyun mara track. It did well initially. But writing and execution continued to be as bad. Anurag’s majboori looked quite contrived as did his inconsistent avatar - roaring lion one minute to bheegi billi the next - like what had happened? and Prerna didn’t look like a mother wanting to avenge the death of her two days daughter. Neither did her "badla" chant was backed by substantial plot. Komolika dominated the screen presence with never ending negativity. Bajaj needed to have had longer screen time in this phase to actually establish him as Prerna's saviour paving way for PreRish ultimately. But the actor was back with many conditions, lesser working hour being one of them. Then the pandemic hit and rest became the history.

When the Show resumed and the ML suffered from COVID, everything went for a torpor. Work from home translated into bad acting, bad editing, bad execution, disjointed/ disconnecting scenes combined with never-ending confusion. Like who actually gave Sneha to orphanage??? It was Anurag and Komolika each in alternate episodes. Did Anurag help or didn't help the Sharms? Komolika ruled the screen space and storyline with never ending negativity once again. Likewise, redundant characters like Rakhi and Tapur only congested the screen space. The viewers, fed up ultimately, gave the clinching verdict to the perpetual negativity and the lack of direction.

The Show still ran for 400+episodes, for whatever reasons, is a feat in itself. However, I’m still confused regarding Ekta's actual motive behind the reboot? Did she still want to go the original way or make an actual reboot with a different storyline is something beyond me as she kept giving alternate vibes in each track. The confusion started showing in end results both in terms of episodes and actors' performances.

It should have shut earlier for sub-par writing, shoddy editing, bad execution and Ekta’s need to hold on to all the fandoms, which was probably exacerbated due of bad writing or vice-versa.

Hence, her plan went for a toss for multiple reasons -- importance to actors instead of characters, inept writers, sub-par direction and execution and indecisiveness among many others. I also believe that Ekta starts her Shows pretty well just to lose traction a mid way because of her simultaneous association with multiple projects on multitudinous platforms. In the recent years, her focus and attention have shifted more to web and cinematic media whilst television has became the most ignored medium of them all. Instead of churning one sub-par product after another, I honestly feel that she should retire from television and concentrate on web and big screen if she doesn't have adequate time to supervise her television projects ..

Edited by bashful_moon - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

What is even wrong with EK😲

Nothing against the AnuPre light couple but they really don't have it in them to lead a spin off. They took up so much screen space which would have been useful to tie up loose ends. They hardly looked like teens.

Great for Erica, from Dr. Bose to this was really a downgrade for her. Truly disappointed in the writers for not writing to her strengths, she had no substance and no scenes which conjured her best work. The character sketch was just atrocious. They really treated her character so poorly, it got my goat honestly. I just finished watching her previous show, that wasn't without its flaws but this one is just plain bad especially the last track. I don't think actors have a say in the way the characters shape up in EK shows, she just dumps the actor and moves on.


Originally posted by: grace4317

There's a rumor that KZK3 or maybe spinoff is on the way with KauKki story, as EK wanted to show them as the next AnuPre. When I read about it on TT, I was surprised that, how could she even think that Parth and Eri would play grandparents role, when they are not even looking like parents to Sneha, especially Eri. Pehle se hi ye plan tha tho, I will not blame Parica if they decided to quit after hearing this leap option. Because from their initial IVs, it's clear that this is not what they had signed for. The way Prerna’s character was completely ignored and sidelined, towards the end, I am not at all surprised at Eri's outburst. Her reference to 20yr old story not working now and her IG posts with reference quotes like, 'Strong women don't have attitude; they have standards', & 'A strong woman looks a challenge dead in the eye and gives it a wink.” says what she feels went wrong with Prerna’s character. I am glad that she's being vocal atleast now on how she had perceived Prerna.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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@Bold: You just echoed my thoughts here. How expensive can decent writers be? Just yesterday I had written, hire upcoming novelists. They will write contemporary and relatable stories rather than relying on the crutches of shaadi as a kasauti.

I am one who fell in the marketing trap of the AnunePrekokyun maara (made me doubt my own intelligence ). No actor however popular will get you the TRP forever, you need good stories which people like. It can be viewed with a willing suspension of disbelief ( why do people watch the Naagin and Daayan otherwise) but has to be a good story.

The leads look so young to be parents of 10-year-old kid. A younger audience will simply move away, there is a limit to which you can watch your favorite doing something so nonsensical forever.


Originally posted by: -Doppelganger-

What went wrong with EK's plan is that she never had a plan to begin with. She thought she could ride on the success of season 1 and the popularity of the actors she hired this season.

I never really believed her when she said kzk is her dream project, Seriously? A dream project where she invests nothing in the story? All she did was pour out money for promotions right from statues to who will play which character.KZK2 is the easily the worst Ekta show I have seen in terms of story. I don't know if her bhagya's too run on the same format? Haven't seen them. If only she had allowed season2 to have its own journey instead of trying to fit in the story and the characters into a certain mould. Like they had to somehow show Anurag marrying Komolika and Prerna marrying Bajaj because it happened in season1. Were the reasons justified this season?Did any of the characters make sense? No .They didn't. The bridge fiasco was the biggest mistake they did.Until then the story and the characters made some sense.Again so much money invested in promotions but the story being the same MAJBORI shit. Forget trp viewers , even the online viewers lost connect with the lead characters. People were simply watching it for the actors after that which was not enough to sustain the show.

Add to that she hired two young actors for Anurag and Prerna who would never have agreed to be in the show for long with generation leaps.Especially for Parth, its his first GEC show.Both would have wanted to explore other career options instead of getting stuck in a role for years.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#45

I still remember Kukki & Sneha fiasco...I still wonder how could they even think of it...Are viewers so stupid to not notice it..


Then even went ahead of naming their biological daughter as Sneha again...😂😂

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Dii... Great post 🤗



I still feel EK had a grip over the story for the first 100 episodes as that's why this time unlike last time they showed anupre relationship grow in a organic manner.... From acquaintances to friends to best friends to one side love to mutual love vibes... Also like last time each character had a story.. had some role to play... And to take anupre love story ahead...


I wish Pre was shown as the sassy character when she entered in komo1 track....Also the one who is shown to take care of her kid... show those feelings a mother goes through... Most importantly i wish they had not shown such a rushed consummation scene rather a better scene... Also the way anu was introduced as a sensible guy.. i wish they had continued than showing him so much helpless...


When komo entered... And the way she gives advice to pre about love.. I really thought this time because of some mishap happening to mishka .. komo will be someone who will come to take revenge on anupre and not someone who will be obsessed with anu... By mishap i felt mishka might commit suicide or go into depression seeing anu with pre .. by this komo character could have been dealt well... Also showing her father and her into politics it could have added the right angle but they had to ruin it...


Ron when entered.... Since he was shown to have a positive side... I felt his love story with shivi will be explored more with shivi being a single mother and ron marrying her because of komo and protecting shivi ..


Nivipam story could have had the back story... The scandal which they talked about...


Shekhar suman story would have had the typical husband wife mil fil drama ..


Mahesh tapur angle could have been explored too..


Momo story the way they started was a great to watch i wish they had continued...


Rajesh veena also were like typical parents and couple who cared for their children... Those dynamics could have also been explored...


EK failed to understand that if some relation of anupre faces a problem then anupre are also bound to have a problem.. they could have explored it beautifully... Also like you say moh could have been the best kasauti for anupre but they failed to explore that more...


Vikrant track brought the possessive anu out...That track could have been really good... But cvs kept the track short... And introduced bajaj... EK should introduced bajaj too in a nice way like vikrant's boss and pre working there... But she had to bring the unnecessary blackmail / deal drama...


If viraj had to come then i really hoped he came to take revenge by thinking anu committed accident of his wife after which memory loss track started... But we get to know it's komo who did the accident.. he could have been shown as a friend of pre but purposely making anu jealous ... Unknown to him...this is triggering anu's feelings to pre...


Anyways it boils down to story only... If the story was well written such things would not have happened...

Edited by rahuldravidfan - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Literally many things were wrong with KZK2👎🏼

First of all EK indecisive nature of not being able to select who the main couple of KZK2 Anupre or Prerish. EK and KZK2 CVS have goes in circles between Anupre and Prerish throughout the show i.e. sometimes showing Prena romancing Anurag and sometimes showing Prena romancing Bajaj in Bajaj1 track rather than selecting only one couple as the main couple of KZK2 , Anupre or Prerish. But no EK had to show Prena becoming struck between both Anurag and Bajaj 🥱. If EK really wanted Prerish to be the main couple of KZK2, EK and KZK2 CVS should not have shown Anupre falling for each other and being the main couple in the first two tracks of KZK2. Rather than starting KZK2 with Anupre EK could have started the show with Prerish. How can EK expect the audience to accept Prena romancing Bajaj in Bajaj1 track when EK had shown Anupre journey and lovestory in the first two tracks of KZK2 👍🏼

2nd is weak characterisation of Prena's character.Rather than showing Prena becoming an independent and strong woman by getting a job with her own capability, EK and KZK2 CVS showed Prena getting struck between Anurag and Bajaj. In AnuragNaaPrenaKoKyuMara track EK and KZK2 CVS could have showed Prena becoming an independent and strong business woman with her own capability but no there also EK and KZK2 CVS had to show Prena becoming a strong businesswoman with the help of Prena. For Prena to get the land deal of Basu City plan , Anurag had to secretly helped Prena. In Basu City plan EK and KZK2 CVS could have showed Prena getting the land deal of Basu City with her own capability rather than Anurag secretly helping her. Other than Prena I think every character of the show had a development and growth in their character. I think Prena was the weakest character of KZK2 because the KZK2 CVS really didn't shown any development and growth in Prena's character👎🏼

3rd is cross marriage and heroine romancing the other guy who is not the ML. I know now also in some shows cross marriages are being shown but in those shows atleast the FL is not romancing or having romantic scenes with the other guy. Who the hell told EK to experiment the storyline of cross marriages and heroine romancing the other guy in KZK2. EK could have treated KZK2 like her other BT shows rather than following 90S show storyline and the previous KZK1. Couldn't EK showed the tracks shown in other BT shows in KZK2 rather than copying the storyline of previous one and 90s shows😵

4th is playing with both Anupre and Prerish fandom by sometimes showing Prena romancing Anurag and other times showing Prena romancing Bajaj. EK and KZK2 CVS literally played with both the fandoms throughout the show. Rather than taking help of the two fandoms, popularity of both the lead actors and jodi, and offscreen tactics it is better if EK would have hired a better and good writer for KZK2🥱

Thank you for making the post Grace. Awesome post grace👍🏼👏

Edited by Abjini - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Strong women may have attitude and standard both as per need but pre had none. 😆

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Originally posted by: -Doppelganger-

I meant the first time Anurag married Komolika (Hina) and Prerna married Bajaj. What I wanted to say was that..her Anurag and Prerna were written differently this season.Trying to fit in tracks of season 1 without even thinking if those will suit the characters this season is what I think went wrong. Not sure if I am making sense. As an example...they introduced Anurag as a sensible guy who lives in the 21st century and knows what he wants.He saved Pre from a human trafficker and chided her for her stupidity but what did the makers do with him in the next track?Made the same guy marry Komolika out of majboori because and only because this track happened in season 1. Did the majboor hoke shaadi karna act suit this season's Anurag?I think not. With season1 , Ekta went with the flow.She didn't have a ready made story. With S2 she already had a story (in season1 ) and tried to fit in her s2 characters into that story resulting in a mess.


Did it suit this seasons anurag ? Well..I remember I defended him.quite vigoursly during that time , means the story writer gave me something as a base to defend him. He was actually majboor imo.... Wont go into details. I am ok with his majboori , pre coming in, doing sautan fight , anurag supporting her silently, it all made sense , it was entertaining too. Point is , he cant get majboor the same way again and again right ? That's the laziness of the writer. Reason the last majboori turned comic is known to all. There were a thousand better options to stage killing pre and keep sneha safe. Love cares. Not by killing..only with good intentions and love in the heart, things wont fall in place...basically, from komo#1 track, there was no growth of the characters ,probably they regressed....the graph of characters , story, everything went downhill in each epi.... . The last twist was a real bummer. He teamed up with the villains of his life , trusted them to keep pre and sneha safe and happy ? Its laughable.



I understand your point. The way they went with anupre in kzk1, they wanted to do things differently this time but audience believed they will do the same ? I need to look at the brain scan of their writer 🤣I believe audience had abs no issue with anupre together or prerish together , provided they gave us good tracks. But they should have picked one and gone with it rather than backtracking . I think we r saying the same things so ..😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: surbhi1995

Well zero idea about Sujal or Robbie or kasturi or whatever.who are they ???not interested.

And again I said earlier I m not interested in last season of kzk.

I know one thing which ekta mentioned anupre story of last season in one of her iv during parica promotion.

She said anurag and prerna was always together by Heart.world could not let them stay together.tgey shared some dard ka rishta.

Anurag and prerna had worldly relations with others but with eachother they never needed any relationship.

Again u gave me summary of S1 which was very uncalled for.

I mentioned about S1 with anuneprekokyunmara bcoz cvs tried to establish bapre as couple for long time by butchering anurag completely.But again it's my speculation .it may or may not be right.

And lastly whatever I heard of S1 is tgat anupre were star crossed lovers who could not meet due to unforeseen circumstances.but they died in eachother arms and their last word was also eachother name .

Otherwise for me with my Ltd knowledge,S1 was a big family tree with trying to figure out who is whose husband,wife,mother,father,daughter,son,grandparents and that tree never ends.

Thank god this pre was not ideal bcoz I hate ideal character.I like characters who are weak,flawed ,selfish .But I also wish that cvs would have given character progression and learning from mistakes .But it's fine.it was soap opera and now over.


@bold: I felt that Ekta was right while she defined Anurag Prerna, if we leave season 2 alone, and just analyse season 1, Anurag Prerna were never meant to be together, they loved each other and felt every emotion for each other, which they would not have felt for their other spouses. Prerna married Mr.Bajaj, but in every aspect or event of her life, her judgements and decisions were triggered by Anurag, the right and confidence with which she always faced Anurag, she would never face anyone else. For example, she was able to forgive Mr. Bajaj for madhvi's child (I assume she knew and forgave him, I forgot the track actually) or even probably she would forgive him for any of his unfair actions because his betrayal or his actions could never hurt Prerna in the same way Anurag's action would do, Anurag would affect her the most, even his small mistakes would hurt her very much given he dominates her emotions like none. And it applies for Anurag too, while his redemption was the best tracks of season 1, be it his way of supporting and building up Prerna's career in his post komolika marriage track, or be it his guilt and constant grief of mistrusting Prerna about sneha's paternity, he would never be intense had he tried to redeem himself for any other woman.

At some point Prerna was obligated to think that she loves Bajaj, because that was what any righteous person would do, but Mr. Bajaj has not been a great character either, he misbehaved and left pregnant prerna just because she supported Anurag (who was almost dead and faced a tragedy), on top of that in every conversation he would remind prerna about how he helped her and 'permitted' her to sleep with Anurag for sneha, I understand it takes a big heart to do that but then what is the point if you remind her about the 'greatness' and make her feel guilty when she was not at fault. Season 1 Prerna was kind of ambiguous, she would be fair and confident when it came to facing Anurag, while she always was submissive when it came to Mr. Bajaj, which makes me believe that while Anurag never reinforced his rights, Mr. Bajaj was sly and manipulative, he could easily make Prerna believe that she is wrong in treating a great man like him lesser than Anurag.


In season 2, everything went for a toss, there were no redemptions, neither for Anurag, nor for Prerna, both were always stuck with sacrifices, which ruined all the essence, however there were small mercies like Prerna not marrying manipulative Bajaj and Anurag not blaming himself for everything that happens with Prerna, it was like a trend in season 1, everything happening with Prerna somehow became Anurag's case to solve, at some point it was hilarious 🤣


About Sujal, well if you want to, please watch him, one sujal is greater than every male lead of Ekta, he was and will remain the most enchanting and iconic male lead, he probably changed the trends of positive male leads into angry young brooding ones, a man of few words, and the show was from his perspective till Rajeev khandelwal quit.

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