Back to square one? Or not?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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The episode was very rushed and random with Meenu's flips so I'm not even going to go over all that.


Most important line came from BP in the end when he said he didn't trust Meenu one bit (thank god....I was thinking they all lost their minds seeing Meenu ke crocodile tears🤔) and that is what holds him back from accepting Abir for Mishti.


Abir overheard him saying this to Mishti so he's also aware of Maheshwaris ke valid reservations about his mom.


Precap continues in the same vein of Jasmeet and Varsha griping about Mishti becoming Kuhu ki jethaani if she marries Abir.....and Kuhu has also returned to her usual jealous zone of hating on Mishti for getting her "fairytale"🤔......this girl can never grow up. She even needed to be requested by Nish to do anything for Abir's wedding with Mishti.....lol so much for her "concern" for Abir.....kuch bhi.


So none of this is new.....the family being against AM's shaadi, Kuhu hating and resenting Mishti, Jasmeet-Varsha being insecure of Mishti becoming jethaani.......if the writers are repeating all this, reiterating all this....it makes me wonder.....is this leading to something?


Otherwise there is no point repeating all this.....everyone already knows all this and despite Meenu's assurances about "sincerely accepting Mishti as a bahu" , everyone is wary that the same situations will be repeated again.


So AM have to talk and come up with a different solution to this problem. Considering the fact that they just declared their love for the world again, seperation is not an option. They have to find a solution where they are able to be together......only solution is getting married and living away from Meenu.


Do the writers have the guts to show leads taking such a step? 😛 I will give them kudos if they do....otherwise all this is pointless.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: lopli


Please, just because Kuhu doesnt like Mishti doesnt make her selfish. She is the only character to who has seen growth. She has stopped her Kunal jap, she didnt take advantage of her divorce to get attention. She is still suffering all alone.


Mishti and her have never been close and noe Mishti hurt one more member that was important to Kuhu of course she is bound to have some anger. I mean look at Kunal and Abir who have gone to extremes to protect each other and Kuhu cant even be upset.


Let alone Maheswaris now Kunal has also started the Mishti jap, how do you think that makes her feel. The guy who had so much hatred for Mishti, pretended to be love, wants to divorce her has now all of sudden wants to plan Mishti's wedding Seriously.


I beleive Kuhu just needs to start her own life, neither Maheswaris nor Rajvansh deserve her.


Creatives please stop using both Kunal and Kuhu as scapegoats to make MA mahaan.


LOL I'm sorry but I completely disagree. You are entitled to your opinion but nothing in the story presentation backs that up.


There is a basic way to behave no matter what your reasons for liking/disliking a person. Kuhu resents Mishti for no reason....as if Mishti deliberately goes around bringing misfortune in her life. Her reactions are those of a typical spoilt brat. There is no growth....she just goes around in circles.


What anger? She jumps straight to "I HATE Mishti" simply cuz Mishti stated the obvious that she loves Abir and not Nishant? lol at one point, Kuhu herself was HELPING Mishti cuz she thought Mishti loved Abir and now suddenly Kuhu "hates" her cuz she broke off the wedding with her blood relation Nishant? lol even typing this sounds insane....I can't believe this behavior of Kuhu's is still being justified for this. lol oh well.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Absolutely. No sane woman will go to a family where the matriarch has gone to new lows every day just to separate two lovers.

Abeer must be mature enough to leave his house where his lady love has got nothing but insult, Mishti should grow a spine and accept that if she can leave her house after marriage then so can Abeer. I hate when they show that if a girl leaves her family it's fine but if the same is expected of the boy then, oh boy ghar todu 🤪


But I feel the writers too don't know what to do until marriage happens and saas-bahu drama begins 🥱 so most probably Mishti will now cry buckets and say that she is not good enough for either of the families and ask Abeer to stay away from her and it'll be his turn to beg 😆


How I wish they would have kept Nannu, and him and Abeer becoming great friends, suddenly everyone's forgotten about business, app, work.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: napster

Absolutely. No sane woman will go to a family where the matriarch has gone to new lows every day just to separate two lovers.

Abeer must be mature enough to leave his house where his lady love has got nothing but insult, Mishti should grow a spine and accept that if she can leave her house after marriage then so can Abeer. I hate when they show that if a girl leaves her family it's fine but if the same is expected of the boy then, oh boy ghar todu 🤪


But I feel the writers too don't know what to do until marriage happens and saas-bahu drama begins 🥱 so most probably Mishti will now cry buckets and say that she is not good enough for either of the families and ask Abeer to stay away from her and it'll be his turn to beg 😆


How I wish they would have kept Nannu, and him and Abeer becoming great friends, suddenly everyone's forgotten about business, app, work.


This is what I’m dreading too 🙈....since two epis now they’ve made Mishti meek and guilt tripping in front of her family like a majboor beti yet again 🙄🙄....this all I don’t have patience for.


Nannu I don’t really care much for....his acting was weird in today’s epi also with the strange “sarcasm” when he was confessing to leaving Abir in the lake....so he can leave for all I care. These writers first need to utilize the current cast properly.

Basically the epis are going to drag this week. I can already tell. Sigh.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


This is what I’m dreading too 🙈....since two epis now they’ve made Mishti meek and guilt tripping in front of her family like a majboor beti yet again 🙄🙄....this all I don’t have patience for.


Nannu I don’t really care much for....his acting was weird in today’s epi also with the strange “sarcasm” when he was confessing to leaving Abir in the lake....so he can leave for all I care. These writers first need to utilize the current cast properly.

Basically the epis are going to drag this week. I can already tell. Sigh.

True, it's like they are in some hurry! Did Vatsal give them a deadline? Bcoz they just rushed it, the family just let the accident thing go by, Nannu's mom let him leave just like that 🤔


I started watching the show bcoz Mishti kept surprising me with her decisions, she was not the sacrificing type that hindi shows love, she would take a stand. Now she is ready to move in with Abeer no matter how much his mom would insult her or her family 👎🏼


This show actually has good writers and actors. We've seen this in many amazing scenes but all they're doing is leaving threads open, making characters like Kuhu go back to being selfish and rude. How I love when both sisters love each other but maybe the viewers don't like to see female bonding?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


LOL I'm sorry but I completely disagree. You are entitled to your opinion but nothing in the story presentation backs that up.


There is a basic way to behave no matter what your reasons for liking/disliking a person. Kuhu resents Mishti for no reason....as if Mishti deliberately goes around bringing misfortune in her life. Her reactions are those of a typical spoilt brat. There is no growth....she just goes around in circles.


What anger? She jumps straight to "I HATE Mishti" simply cuz Mishti stated the obvious that she loves Abir and not Nishant? lol at one point, Kuhu herself was HELPING Mishti cuz she thought Mishti loved Abir and now suddenly Kuhu "hates" her cuz she broke off the wedding with her blood relation Nishant? lol even typing this sounds insane....I can't believe this behavior of Kuhu's is still being justified for this. lol oh well.


i agree with u... kuhu just need to grow up and cope up with life... she cant blame mishti for everything... in first place she dont even want nishmish marriage.. but now he is taking nishant ide after revealing what he did to abir... she just cant tolerate mishti happiness...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Arre please don't delete posts like this that support and try to understand other characters too, apart from the leads. There was no problem with the language or anything, just difference of opinions, which I think is allowed in a free forum & free country.


I'm going to post some unpopular opinions here. I think viewers can critique a CHARACTER, and my views below are strictly ONLY on the characters, not the actors.


@ lopli - I agree with what you've said mostly because I find Kuhu the most relatable in this show.


She perfectly reflects reality & I find her endearing and like her very much for being so very true to herself about what she feels, be it resentment or dislike towards anyone. There are many girls out there who seemingly have a perfect life, but lack the needed support from family in treating them equally, on par with the other children.


Maheshwaris are to be blamed as they never fuss over her EMOTIONAL SENSIBILITIES like badi maa does with mishti. Bade papa gives space & importance to mishti & treats her as having a distinct identity & a distinct person, addressing her MENTAL MATURITY always. He doesn't do it with Kuhu. BP & BM both fuss over mishti to not make her feel left out, & in the process end up giving lesser and lesser significance to Kuhu.


Example - rishta & kunal came for kuhu & meenu asked mishti's hand. This has happened in real life & no family will go ahead with the kunal-mishti alliance, considering how horrible the daughter in Kuhu's posution would feel. Girls are not dolls - ek nahi toh dusra sahi.


But maheshwaris never thought about how wrong the RJv family is, for any of their girls, & never thought about kuhu - maybe just 1 scene that too after deciding that they'll go ahead with mish-kunal ! All because bm was paranoid about mishti's father causing trouble in mishti's life.


This would have been the case for many other things too in mah house. When everything since childhood has been done taking into account mishti first, it's natural for resentment & hate to arise. Sibling rivalry is very common & here they aren't even siblings. So more will be the dislike. I totally understand where kuhu comes from.


This is why Varsha looks out for Kuhu and Varsha also has reservations against mishti for the same reason. Varsha ki bhi many times nahi chalti in front of badi maa as they are dil & mil ! Hence she wants her daughter to be given more importance & feels Kuhu should not become collateral damage due to mishti. Which is exactly what happened in some sense as Kunal lied to her & married her as he disliked mishti.


If bp-bm had treated kuhu as an important, distinct person all along from childhood, they could have told her "resham ko aag se door rakha jata hai" & all & dissuaded her from marrying kunal. But her emotional maturity hasn't been addressed at all by the family.


She wanted to feel important as family didn't make her feel so, but Kunal made her feel so. So she just went in headlong with the marriage even when bade papa asked/warned her once. Her heartbreak & difficulties are in part due to her lack of deep thinking, which is entirely due to maheshwaris not addressing her emotions & sensitivities from childhood.


She's bound to feel the resentment towards mishti, who is not blood-related but gets more space and special treatment from bm & bp, who aren't bad but are not able to balance differing interests which is so needed as head of the family!


They needed to have really treated all children EQUALLY in all respects - but they treated mishti specially as she's not their blood, and kuhu ordinarily as she's their apni & expected her to understand.


But absolute equal treatment is easier said than done as bp-bm are also humans, & their actions have somewhere led to the muhboli taunt for mishti. It's human nature to go wrong here or there in parenting like bp-bm & it's human nature to differentiate between one's own and others.


Not everyone in mah house can be expected to put others / others' children before self like bp-bm can. This is why step families are very difficult for everyone involved. Why, even our own "saga" family is not always rosy.


Nobody is bad here. Kuhu included. If it wasn't mishti's fault that her dad is bad, then it isn't Kuhu's fault for having the human emotion of resentment. She can't help it & family has to see where they went wrong.


Kuhu's recent heightened dislike towards mishti is not without any reason or sudden as few others say. It is a cumulative effect of what has happened all along.


She sometimes helps mishti as she's not inherently evil. But her insecurities take over at other times & that's what makes her likeable to watch. Her stand is very valid & one can easily understand where kuhu is coming from if one looks at the POV of other characters too (my humble 2 cents).


( unlike mishti who put not only her own but also others' sensibilities & lives at jeopardy due to her own confusion. If abir was not in danger, she wouldn't have felt something wrong & would have married nishant. She even said so. And then it would've proved detrimental to not only herself, nishant & abir, but also would have eventually torn down bade papa-ma's peace as they would never see her & nishant being happy as a couple in love, thus putting to waste all their efforts in giving her confidence & apnapan. She said to kunal while breaking mish-kun goddhana that bade papa & ma gave her strength to be herself & it'll be an insult to them if she didn't take a stand for herself. She now contradicted herself & did not take the stand until she was sure that abir was in danger. Well since mishti is the female lead, she finally gets to redeem herself by empowering dialogues & through her love for abir. Kuhu does not get this chance & becomes scapegoat )


P. S. This is only about the characters & is just my very humble 2 cents. Please feel free to disagree 🙏

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I am not anti-mishti or anything - please don't mistake me. I really like mishbir for how they developed as a couple. I truly admire mishti's character for speaking out when she needs to, though she still has scope for improvement. At least, I hope she doesn't change & doesn't become the mahan female lead. Right now, she's very different from other FLs on ITV, and that's great in itself.


We all know she's the female lead and that she'll be right at the end eventually. It's just that it makes sense to me to also try & understand the situations & motivations of the other characters too, in the course of the story.


It's just that I also find KuKu relationship equally interesting & appreciate where their individual characters, thoughts & actions are coming from.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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i agree what u say about kuhu but but BM and BP are not wrong in giving more importance to mishti... BM and BP lost their own daughter so they want to forget by raising up with Mishti like their daughter... kuhu has everyone like father, mother, chaachi and sister and bro but mishti has only BM and BP... may be BM and BP concentrated less on kuhu but they gave in because she had many unlike mishti... except BM and BP none other mah family accepted mishti... they use mishti for their puposes like varsha and jasmeet did at tym of kuku's marriage for stealing kuhu's kundli from rajvansh home knowing how meenakshi and kunal hate mishti.. even BP and BM gave to kuhu on kuku's marriage and sent her away as menakshi demanded... mishti always took her stand and gave in to family demands when there is no mistake of her especially when kuku's get together at rajvansh house... mishti always fought with kuhu but never tried to snatch her happiness unlike kuhu who is insecure about mishti... kuhu never fought for mishti's happiness nor with maheshwari's nor with rajvansh's... like varsha and jasmeet kuhu used mishti to get what she want but never admitted that she is indebted to mishti... im not supporting mishti but after today's episode i didnt like kuhu blaming mishti just because she rejected nishanth bcoz nishanth loves mishti... where is that kuhu who spoke to nishant to reject mishti and even helped abir-kunal to break the marriage of nishmish... kuhu just cant be happy if mishti is happy... i can only see double standard of kuhu... if nishanth relapse she took his side and nishanth left abir to death and she didnt even say a word to him.. like did she really care for abir..??

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruhi19

i agree what u say about kuhu but but BM and BP are not wrong in giving more importance to mishti... BM and BP lost their own daughter so they want to forget by raising up with Mishti like their daughter... kuhu has everyone like father, mother, chaachi and sister and bro but mishti has only BM and BP... may be BM and BP concentrated less on kuhu but they gave in because she had many unlike mishti... except BM and BP none other mah family accepted mishti... they use mishti for their puposes like varsha and jasmeet did at tym of kuku's marriage for stealing kuhu's kundli from rajvansh home knowing how meenakshi and kunal hate mishti.. even BP and BM gave to kuhu on kuku's marriage and sent her away as menakshi demanded... mishti always took her stand and gave in to family demands when there is no mistake of her especially when kuku's get together at rajvansh house... mishti always fought with kuhu but never tried to snatch her happiness unlike kuhu who is insecure about mishti... kuhu never fought for mishti's happiness nor with maheshwari's nor with rajvansh's... like varsha and jasmeet kuhu used mishti to get what she want but never admitted that she is indebted to mishti... im not supporting mishti but after today's episode i didnt like kuhu blaming mishti just because she rejected nishanth bcoz nishanth loves mishti... where is that kuhu who spoke to nishant to reject mishti and even helped abir-kunal to break the marriage of nishmish... kuhu just cant be happy if mishti is happy... i can only see double standard of kuhu... if nishanth relapse she took his side and nishanth left abir to death and she didnt even say a word to him.. like did she really care for abir..??


Thanks for your reply to my post ☺


I completely get where you're coming from.


The thing is, there have been differences in treatment with regard to mishti & kuhu. They've not been treated the same & this has led to constant resentment amongst the 2 of them. So anything like nishant's issue makes kuhu get back to her issues with mishti again as she sees & feels that everyone's concerned only about mishti once again now 🙈


BP & BM belong to an earlier generation & being the effective heads of the household, i guess it's maybe not fair to put mishti in their daughter akshara's position - that's the mistake they're doing.


Akshara is of Varsha & Shaurya's generation & if alive, she'd be kuhu's bua. I don't think kuhu-akshara relationship would've been a problem as kuhu gets along well with her chachi, kunal's mami, etc. Problem arises only when they put mishti on a pedestal like akshara & expect kuhu to also treat her in a special way / expect her to understand why they're doing that.


This causes resentment in kuhu & she doesn't feel obliged to fight for mishti's happiness anywhere as bm & bp are anyway there to molly-coddle her & think of her first.


I respect your opinions and analysis of the charaters. Just different views & ways of looking at the same thing 👍😃

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