Kabir SIngh's success dismantles our false illusions of wokeness - Page 2

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Posted: 6 years ago
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if being woke means being an absolute idiot who cannot understand the difference between movie and real life, than I am glad people aren't woke.

I like some people make it like the part where Kabir slapped Preeti was pictured as some macho or massy scene, which made it look cool. When fact is, that scene was shot as a intense and immature outburst. Aab do teen madarxhods were allegedly(yes allegedly) clapping, matlab sab ke sab log MCP, women hater blah blah blah ban gaye. Kabir was a jerk to men too, but being jerk to men is okay it seems.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Burning because of who's success? Shahid's? LMFAO. Gimme a freakin' break. Nobody cares except the new misogynistic dudebros fanbase Shahid will now have.

And Pathak shouldn't be surprised at all. Most Indian men are exactly like this Kabir character. Any woman who has ever attended college in India will know what exactly am talking about. In this 'woke' world all they do is keep it repressed. But they come out in hoardes to watch their deepest ugliest fantasies projected on screen and they support it with gutso. They can't say 'oh I like inflicting pain on women' I like feeling like we're the superior gender and women are my toys to play and beat up' because society has forced them to keep their thoughts locked up but oh boy do they like supporting utter toxic violent misogyny and masculinity in the guise of the internally angsty lover boy.

I wonder if these men who are celebrating this version of 'a man' will like their daughters to ever meet someone like him. But then,perhaps they absolutely will. One more person to beat up their daughters and keep them in check I guess.

This!!

I have seen some closed ones being abused by their bf who claimed to love them. Thankfully the end wasn’t what happens in the movie . But the pattern is so similar. You don’t get your way then go on a self destructive pattern cause you are big baby with gigantic ego. Reddy movie just brought the whole memory of it back. I just absolutely hate and loathe Arjun reddy movie.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: GrumpyTheCat

This!!

I have seen some closed ones being abused by their bf who claimed to love them. Thankfully the end wasn’t what happens in the movie . But the pattern is so similar. You don’t get your way then go on a self destructive pattern cause you are big baby with gigantic ego. Reddy movie just brought the whole memory of it back. I just absolutely hate and loathe Arjun reddy movie.

I saw Arjun Reddy . He was whiny 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anony-mouse


Surely, you do not see everyone who disagrees with you as a small minded petty person?

Ya got people saying watching a movie means you endorse this, that and the other ? 😆

Sometimes it’s just a movie 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

if being woke means being an absolute idiot who cannot understand the difference between movie and real life, than I am glad people aren't woke.

I like some people make it like the part where Kabir slapped Preeti was pictured as some macho or massy scene, which made it look cool. When fact is, that scene was shot as a intense and immature outburst. Aab do teen madarxhods were allegedly(yes allegedly) clapping, matlab sab ke sab log MCP, women hater blah blah blah ban gaye. Kabir was a jerk to men too, but being jerk to men is okay it seems.


Ab most Indian men are MCP jerks like Kabir so jerk ke saath jerk jaisa behave karne ka 😆. What I am interested is in knowing if most Indian women are like Preeti.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Everyone knows that India is one of leading nations in crime against women, what I don't understand is people's reaction to this movie. It is not their job to shape this society and the problem is not this movie but people who are committing crime against women. What I can tell from this outrage is that these Prince/Princesses who live in AC room and claim ground reporting on basis of some data, are rattled because they had to witness this face of our society. They just don't want a movie to tell them this exits, they don't care about women who are going through this, if they did, they would have made sure to spread the message of this movie ie don't be Kabir Singh

There are 75crore men in India, how many of them watched this movie? How many actually supported Kabir Singh? Lazy writing and interpretation is labeling a whole nation misogynistic because a movie is doing well

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

if being woke means being an absolute idiot who cannot understand the difference between movie and real life, than I am glad people aren't woke.

I like some people make it like the part where Kabir slapped Preeti was pictured as some macho or massy scene, which made it look cool. When fact is, that scene was shot as a intense and immature outburst. Aab do teen madarxhods were allegedly(yes allegedly) clapping, matlab sab ke sab log MCP, women hater blah blah blah ban gaye. Kabir was a jerk to men too, but being jerk to men is okay it seems.



To me, the movie isn't problematic solely because of the Kabir-Preeti relationship. The movie is problematic because of Kabir Singh - the character as a whole.

He is an angry egotistic alpha male. He bullies people into submission. He is indeed a jerk to men, and it is not OK. It sends a dangerous message to young men that toxic masculinity is cool. That the best way to be a heroic man is to be an alpha male.

There is definitely a difference between a movie and reality. Movies must be taken at face value and not for realism. That being said movies don't exist in a vacuum. As part of society, filmmakers do have some social responsibilities. Media is rightly criticized all over the world for lack of diversity, gratuitous violence, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. The critique of Kabir Khan on account of its toxic masculinity and misogyny is valid.

There are grey/amoral/immoral people in the world. It is completely legitimate to make movies on such characters. There are several movies with anti-heroes as the main character/protagonist. By all means, make a movie on Kabir Singh. But make Kabir Singh end up in prison, in rehab, or even dying - not a romantic hero who gets the girl.

That being said not everyone who enjoys Kabir Singh is is unwoke or misogynistic. Some people are just Shahid Kapoor fans - and he has given the performance of a lifetime. Many are privileged enough to be able to take a movie at face value without considering the societal repercussions of the problematic protagonist.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Just wanna say, many women going ga ga over Kabir singh on YouTube and Twitter

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Have not seen the movie in question, but nothing quite irritates me as the supercilious ,condescending, judgemental takes that people have on other people's fictional preferences.

I can understand not liking something as it may not fit with a person's world view for eg I have not watched Game of Thrones, however it would be moronical to start judging every one who watched that show as incest lovers.

People need to stop moral policing fictional preferences.

Edited by dahibhalle - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Burning because of who's success? Shahid's? LMFAO. Gimme a freakin' break. Nobody cares except the new misogynistic dudebros fanbase Shahid will now have.

And Pathak shouldn't be surprised at all. Most Indian men are exactly like this Kabir character. Any woman who has ever attended college in India will know what exactly am talking about. In this 'woke' world all they do is keep it repressed. But they come out in hoardes to watch their deepest ugliest fantasies projected on screen and they support it with gutso. They can't say 'oh I like inflicting pain on women' I like feeling like we're the superior gender and women are my toys to play and beat up' because society has forced them to keep their thoughts locked up but oh boy do they like supporting utter toxic violent misogyny and masculinity in the guise of the internally angsty lover boy.

I wonder if these men who are celebrating this version of 'a man' will like their daughters to ever meet someone like him. But then,perhaps they absolutely will. One more person to beat up their daughters and keep them in check I guess.


my problem is that even women are liking this movie..........my colleague was gaga over it....calling it the best love story in a long time.......... and she is someone who advocates feminism very strongly......

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