Kabir SIngh's success dismantles our false illusions of wokeness - Page 5

Originally posted by: astha36

I think this is one of the most misunderstood scenes in the movie and pointed out by so many people. I would've called this out if I had never studied in a college in Delhi. Not saying what he did was right, but that is literally how it's going to be in a college campus in Delhi, especially engineering or medical colleges. The sex ratio is so skewed that boys are quite literally obsessed with the girls that enter the college and it is very believable that a senior will try to warn the others away from a girl he likes. And I wouldn't really call it misogynistic. It's not a healthy environment for organic relationships and the dynamics are very different from the outside world. What he did isn't right but it's not misogynistic, it's pretty realistic.

Reality and misogyny are not mutually exclusive. As someone who did acquire an obsessive admirer in an Engineering College- it is depressing, makes you feel powerless, scary (you can never not move around without a group). It is the most horrible thing that can happen to someone.

Is it not inherently misogyny when the other person just assumes that I have to fall in line with their expectations/version of things. I have no agency, no opinion or even no say in the matter whether I would like to reciprocate or not! If it is a relationship of equals- then why does the woman not have liberty to say- I am not interested?

The biggest disservice Bollywood has done to Indian society is showing the No eventually means Yes kind of romances! Thats what the roadside romeos bet on and why common janes like you and me end up with stalkers!

misogyny

/mɪˈsɒdʒ(ə)ni/

noun

1. dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
   
   
   
   

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Originally posted by: Anony-mouse

Reality and misogyny are not mutually exclusive. As someone who did acquire an obsessive admirer in an Engineering College- it is depressing, makes you feel powerless, scary (you can never not move around without a group). It is the most horrible thing that can happen to someone.

Is it not inherently misogyny when the other person just assumes that I have to fall in line with their expectations/version of things. I have no agency, no opinion or even no say in the matter whether I would like to reciprocate or not! If it is a relationship of equals- then why does the woman not have liberty to say- I am not interested?

The biggest disservice Bollywood has done to Indian society is showing the No eventually means Yes kind of romances! Thats what the roadside romeos bet on and why common janes like you and me end up with stalkers!

misogyny

/mɪˈsɒdʒ(ə)ni/

noun

1. dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
   
   
   
   

Yeah the girl should have a say of course. She can refuse. In the movie, she's not shown refusing or getting uncomfortable even once. Made me think that she liked him back or at least didn't mind his meddling around with her. I didn't mean that realistic and misogynistic are mutually exclusive, I meant the adjective I would use for his act is just realistic. It's not right but it's also not wrong for the environment that is usually in these colleges. While he did presume to make a lot of initiatives, he didn't face any protest at all. If he had and tried to bully her into submission, I would call that misogyny. Not only did she not protest but she went from neutral to positive pretty quickly in the movie. That's what I meant.

Originally posted by: astha36

Yeah the girl should have a say of course. She can refuse. In the movie, she's not shown refusing or getting uncomfortable even once. Made me think that she liked him back or at least didn't mind his meddling around with her. I didn't mean that realistic and misogynistic are mutually exclusive, I meant the adjective I would use for his act is just realistic. It's not right but it's also not wrong for the environment that is usually in these colleges. While he did presume to make a lot of initiatives, he didn't face any protest at all. If he had and tried to bully her into submission, I would call that misogyny. Not only did she not protest but she went from neutral to positive pretty quickly in the movie. That's what I meant.

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

I think Preeti was in Kabir's awe from the start, when Professor called him in class than berated him and he gave back the professor. She was stealing looks even when they went to drink tea while Kabir was talking with Shiva.

Tab Preeti ko dikhaya tha when he talked back to the dean? I thought her first appearance was when she was in a line with the other girls, coming for lunch. And yeah, I felt like she either liked him from the beginning or was intrigued, you know. I didn't feel she's scared, especially because of the way she behaves later when she opens up more. She's not a girl who shivers in fear, she's not someone who hesitates while talking. She seemed like a pretty clear and upfront girl from the beginning. Just a woman of few words.