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Posted: 7 years ago
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No hard feelings at all 😊 Glad u explained things and that's why I always believe communication is the best way to every problem

Obviously u have the right to feel and think the way u want with regards to things and yes I agree to the majority of the things u mentioned in ur post but despite me making posts from Neil's point of view off late, I don't think I fall in the category of people who would defend any wrong Neil does blindly, if it was the case, I would not be here trying to understand every perspective, people who believe they are right, just keep refusing to hear anything. I feel, and I might be wrong, that I'm kind of misunderstood here. I came across many bashing posts and didn't post, after so long I posted on the main forum, wasn't even going to do it as many times I felt that maybe it would be in vain but then seeing that everyone posts their opinion I thought why not, I didn't get personal nor crossed any limit nor made it seem like the other person is wrong in what they feel or think, I try despite my inclination towards some particular vision of things to introspect, I question myself this way too even in real life, I dislike being judgmental, we end up being it at some point of time as we are human beings and our feelings do play a major part but I try as much as I can to be open to others points of view, I feel most of things are relative nothing is absolute as I've explained it many times here too in the forum.


Anyways I'm being philosophical here, thank u for posting and sharing ur opinions 😊 They make sense to me, I mean character analysis and circumstances, my point above is with regards to who defends who, I feel personally that some Avni fans feel Neil fans are justifying him blindly and vice versa for Neil fans šŸ˜† Not generalising again, I've seen bashing posts of both was part of none!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

Omg naj it's you! You changed your un and also changed color! Missed you so much girl, good ol days we have spent in this place šŸ¤—

You know why I left the show and this place. It's partly sad and amusing that what I felt that time is actually happening again. I am sorry you have to endure this verbal lashing from the majority lot. You don't deserve it. I am surprised you are following it, you gonna stick till the end aren't you?


I have always loved the idea of a gender reversal of bad girl good boy story and NK attracted me because of that. Only if I know in typical way fans used to defend abusive hero here also heroine will get away with everything cause of her sad past. Anyway, I seem to drag a dead discussion in this thread. Sorry about that, and nice meeting you again. ā¤ļø stay blessed sweety, you are amazing.



Missed u too RišŸ¤—, and the beautiful days of the EDT

I loved Avni most when she used to treat others according to how they treat her, I found it an interesting trait, being very good at heart but never letting others snatch ur happiness. I so wanted her to fight for her own happiness, there is no problem at thinking of yourself first at times, following what ur heart wants na ki going against it and I so wanted her to share things with Neil, being in things together is better that being in them alone I suppose, unity is strength.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have stopped watching this show due to the storylines and yes the female character's never ending insecurities. I thought after having finally gotten her dream family, the writers had to go back and bring those insecurities out.
When a person gets angry or starts misunderstanding another person, it's the other person duty to clear the misunderstanding instead of raising more.

So Avni is the one who has to clear Neil's misunderstanding and gain his trust. Avni is becoming one of the female leads that I do not like, even Neil will become another male lead that I do not like.

Lies and secrets have a way that it will come out eventually, no matter how much you try to hide them.

Neil has every right to feel betrayed and if the cv's start to demean this by justifying Avni's acts then šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼.

This is one of the reasons why I have stopped watching Indian shows, where the female lead get all the justification of her wrong doing and male leads pain is ignored there is no balance.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunflower52

I have stopped watching this show due to the storylines and yes the female character's never ending insecurities. I thought after having finally gotten her dream family, the writers had to go back and bring those insecurities out.

When a person gets angry or starts misunderstanding another person, it's the other person duty to clear the misunderstanding instead of raising more.

So Avni is the one who has to clear Neil's misunderstanding and gain his trust. Avni is becoming one of the female leads that I do not like, even Neil will become another male lead that I do not like.

Lies and secrets have a way that it will come out eventually, no matter how much you try to hide them.

Neil has every right to feel betrayed and if the cv's start to demean this by justifying Avni's acts then šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼.

This is one of the reasons why I have stopped watching Indian shows, where the female lead get all the justification of her wrong doing and male leads pain is ignored there is no balance.

I don't know about other shows but in NK even more than female lead's emotions it has been always Neil whose every little emotion is conveyed & in no ITV show you could see such things from past one and half month writers solely concentrated in Neil's pain his emotions his heartbreak everything in depth to an extent that whole FD could connect to him and his pain but it also had a disadvantage of FL was shown like nil emotions she was used for all the scenes but without any monologue and her pov her thought process was completely ignored writers made the FL scenes occupied with supporting characters like saesha kk fiasco so obviously there was lack of balance and only in NK you could see FL 's every action definitely is not justified if that's the case even Neil's every action is justified more than avni's I'm not saying all this Neil or avni's fan but from neutral perspective
In no ITV show ml is given so much importance screenspace and a strong character and role to play apart from romancing and fighting with FL infact in no ITV show emotions of ml are focused in depth as they do in NK for Neil
Still people complain and takes sides?both Neil and Avni are at fault two wrong doesn't makes a right
Especially writers have changed recently and so there ought to be some disadvantages because of that people need to take it easy and not complicate everything they are just characters who are nothing but puppets of writers
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sandhir.candy


Right now their love is nothing but a mockery
& with the number of days left of the show do you think it can really be undone?
In this case I think the lines which has been their actually is or should be their is


Adhoora hoke bhi hai ishq mera kaamil

Or may be it's

Mohtaaj manzil ka to nahi hai ye ek tarfa mera safar



I agree. There love is badly mocked by the writers and its difficult to be undone given the 14 episodes remaining only...specially looking at the way they are still taking the things. After all the complications they have created n continuing to create yet, this serves at least a 3 months long story henceforth which will include the pain, hurt, guilt, awkwardness after what all has happened lately, then them starting their efforts again, the marriage counselling, re-building the trust in eachother...its ideally a long process which can't happen in 14 days.
I don't mind even if there ishq is left adhoora, but I want to see it kaamil, that's it...because that is kaamil. We liked the inital episodes of this leap because we could feel that love they both had for eachother even though they were separated, unlike the other shows where the separation occurs due to some misunderstanding n one of the two, specially the ML keeps hating the FL. Even after they met, we saw them fighting n arguing, but we could still feel their love n care for eachother...they were separated then too. Even now, we can see Avni still loving Neil. If we want to see, we can also see Neil's love for Avni, like he felt guilty for shouting at Avni n asking her to leave the moment she left, like he had tears seeing Mowgli clinging to Avni because that was his dream picture once upon a time n now he was not welcome in the frame, like he remembers Avni's wish to have a baby seeing that photo frame n he cries...all this is his love only which is being overshadowed by his anger or hurt or ego.
N that's y my answer to ur question was that I want to see them together. By together, I don't mean necessarily under the same roof as a married couple. I want them to realise that feeling of love for eachother n no hatred or ego between them.
N that was again more an answer to ur question y Neil fans wouldn't want him to move on with someone else. That's because whether he accept it or not, the fact is he loves only Avni, so he shouldn't move on with someone whom he doesn't love. Being with Avni, he might have to face all this mehroomi in his life as u mentioned in ur post, but he doesn't even know any other way to live life other than without her n all her issues? So he shouldn't go with someone else with whom he doesn't know how to live.
The bottomline is, he may live with Avni or apart from her, I want him to get that love for her back and not move on with any third person for all these reasons...as an AvNeil fan and a Neil supporter both!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: subiaman

@naj, nice post. The first thought that crossed my mind when I saw your post was "Neil under attack and here comes Naj šŸ˜† to rescue!
Tbh I am not watching the show anymore so I won't give any expert opinion on Neil vs. Avni war that is going on now. What put me off completely was the way Avni staged her death and I was repulsed by that whole sequence. I was not a big fan of their combined missions either and couldn't digest any of that either but this was too much for me to handle. What followed was weeks and weeks of Avni bashing/criticism. she was bashed and criticized left right and center here in this forum and everywhere- to the point that I felt bad for that person (Avni). After all she didn't do it intentionally to hurt anyone and she herself lost big time herself in the whole process. I used to stalk the forum to read (out of habit)... some people here coming to defend Neil had problems with her even breathing air at that point. They said they don't want Neil getting back with her at all and would rather see him alone :) What I find amusing is that I didn't find big justification essays for her anywhere. The only person who was is and always have been positive and neutral in my opinion was Mandy (moderator). She stood by the characters through thick and thin. And now when Neil was questioned I was surprised by the justification posts and what not! Honestly as a distant person not even following the story I can tell you- I agree with some here who said- the Neil lovers can never agree he is wrong - they have justification for everything. Sometimes straight with no pretense but sometimes under the disguise of an avneil lover. If you read your own post - you can see snippets of "I agree Neil was wrong but you could say that he was... and "I agree Avni poor soul was hurt but you also have to remember that she started this ... or something similar. 😃 ..
sorry if I sounded personal. But I just couldn't help myself!!! Taking liberty with you to be personal 😳
As for Neil and his justifications- I am tired of hearing about the shock betrayal etc. ok I had heard people asking questions like- what would you do if you are in Neil's position? I feel I am quite close to the age of Neil in the story. And I would not react the way he did. If I am a trained police officer and if I knew my wife Avni - who has stood with me through some very difficult situations and had proposed to me right after knowing that I have a child with my ex and who risked her life several times to save me, who had the habit of running away but always had her weird reasons for that, and who after running away wasn't living with another man or in a comfortable surroundings but rather raising some orphan children would stop to think - of course after the initial shock is over- WHY DID SHE DO THIS? And try to find out her reason. Well that's me. And Neil might be different! So don't tell me everyone will react this way.
As for Avni I never justified her and I don't believe was justified by anyone except few who could understand why she did what she did while accepting it was still wrong!!!





@Bold Yes this is how I would have expected Neil Khanna to behave as per his history, also there was that diary of Avni but all was forgotten I guess with the new writers on board. Anyways I guess it's too late now, the maximum one can hope for is some damage control so that we are not left with a bitter pill in these last days of the show, but I don't know if anyone from channel ya cvs has the willigness to do it, all I see is things going the cliched way!! sad but true!

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