Revenge ya justice!! - Page 9

Originally posted by: subiaman

@naj, nice post. The first thought that crossed my mind when I saw your post was "Neil under attack and here comes Naj 😆 to rescue!
Tbh I am not watching the show anymore so I won't give any expert opinion on Neil vs. Avni war that is going on now. What put me off completely was the way Avni staged her death and I was repulsed by that whole sequence. I was not a big fan of their combined missions either and couldn't digest any of that either but this was too much for me to handle. What followed was weeks and weeks of Avni bashing/criticism. she was bashed and criticized left right and center here in this forum and everywhere- to the point that I felt bad for that person (Avni). After all she didn't do it intentionally to hurt anyone and she herself lost big time herself in the whole process. I used to stalk the forum to read (out of habit)... some people here coming to defend Neil had problems with her even breathing air at that point. They said they don't want Neil getting back with her at all and would rather see him alone :) What I find amusing is that I didn't find big justification essays for her anywhere. The only person who was is and always have been positive and neutral in my opinion was Mandy (moderator). She stood by the characters through thick and thin. And now when Neil was questioned I was surprised by the justification posts and what not! Honestly as a distant person not even following the story I can tell you- I agree with some here who said- the Neil lovers can never agree he is wrong - they have justification for everything. Sometimes straight with no pretense but sometimes under the disguise of an avneil lover. If you read your own post - you can see snippets of "I agree Neil was wrong but you could say that he was... and "I agree Avni poor soul was hurt but you also have to remember that she started this ... or something similar. 😃 ..
sorry if I sounded personal. But I just couldn't help myself!!! Taking liberty with you to be personal 😳
As for Neil and his justifications- I am tired of hearing about the shock betrayal etc. ok I had heard people asking questions like- what would you do if you are in Neil's position? I feel I am quite close to the age of Neil in the story. And I would not react the way he did. If I am a trained police officer and if I knew my wife Avni - who has stood with me through some very difficult situations and had proposed to me right after knowing that I have a child with my ex and who risked her life several times to save me, who had the habit of running away but always had her weird reasons for that, and who after running away wasn't living with another man or in a comfortable surroundings but rather raising some orphan children would stop to think - of course after the initial shock is over- WHY DID SHE DO THIS? And try to find out her reason. Well that's me. And Neil might be different! So don't tell me everyone will react this way.
As for Avni I never justified her and I don't believe was justified by anyone except few who could understand why she did what she did while accepting it was still wrong!!!

Originally posted by: sandhir.candy

This is my big time peoblem here, it's always like Neil is wrong but justified & Avni's reasons are understandable but she's wrong.

The difference is always the bottom line.

There are never posts to defend Avni, but just say Neil did wrong & there will be essays written in his defense. Honestly even I have defended him when I was active, but only when I feel fans are being unreasonably unfair to him.

But there's a limit to everything.

+infinity

Originally posted by: IFLove

@Sandhir.candy

Being one of the Neil supporter, my answer to ur question is I want AvNeil together and do not want Neil to go ahead with Mitali because he only n only loves Avni, which love is foreshadowed by hatred and misunderstandings for now. Either with time or after learning the truth, his hatred and misunderstandings will reduce n then it will be too late even if he feels his love for her again and I do not want both of them, in fact 4 of them, to suffer then, hence I want AvNeil together before Neil moves on with Mitali.

Avni is wrong, Neil is wrong too, both have done mistakes in past n they'll continue to do in future too. AvNeil can be good bad right wrong saint evil...anything...but the fact is they love eachother the way they are and they only love eachother. So no matter what they face in life because of eachother, they should be together. That's it.

Maana k teri maujudgi se yeh zindagaani mehroom hai...

Jeene ka koi duja tareeqa na mere dil ko maalum hai

This has been their line ever since...n this sums it up all.

~from an AvNeil fan and a Neil supporter...AvNeil still exists and it will forever do!

Originally posted by: subiaman

And I forgot to mention one big "nainsafi.. I just read a post in another thread and remembered that. And I can vouch you that it is happening big time here. You have to be a "real neutral reader to understand and see that!!!
Avni is big time problem- she is cold, heartless, stubborn, and what not ... but if
Neil does something like what's happening right now, the writers destroyed the "oh so perfect Neil Khanna... I guess Avni has superpowers to do all the wrong things she did without any writers or CVs involved 😆

lol 😉😆

Originally posted by: Survival

@sandhir.candy

Easy honey, why so agressive?!, we are just discussing, the purpose of this post is not to blame Avni, we are trying to see things from both perspectives and I presented the perspective which was less discussed in the last days, and I clearly said welcome to any point of view, and I clearly stated that I'm not generalising.

I personally don't deny Avni's rights and I never said that I disagree with every thing she did and I didn't say that I agree with everything Neil did, then why are u making it seem like if I hate Avni and I don't understand her and like if I'm being harsh on her and highly unfair to her and just defending Neil blindly! Do u get now why some people don't really like to post certain things here, it's because the tone honestly of some replies sounds agressive honestly, in the other post u indirectly made it seem like if I'm ok with a woman being insulted and here too to a certain point too and u made me even question myself and because I like to self introspect I even discussed the facts with other people to see whether I'm not being unfairly biased

Neil and Avni are still fictional people but here we are real life people even if we just interact virtually, I understand ur love for Avni and even ur outrage at what u might have seen as unfairness towards her character but please try to read ur posts and see whether if these things were adressed to u in the same tone u would have felt it's an ok tone, because each time u keep questioning me, why do I want that, or assuming that I would come with some unreasonbale justification etc

Anyways I might be wrong, and I might have just taken ur posts that way, correct me if I'm wrong but when I was reading your posts this is what I felt.

@chocolatebond aka afsana... I know most of these people are mad because you called Neil
Cheap! But one thing I know from my stalking in this forum is that you are one of the biggest avneil/Adiza fan- more than many who claims otherwise. I have seen you feeling hurt day after day through these Avni bashing sessions that has been going on for weeks and you trying to tell that it's the CVs who is doing this. But nobody thought about CVs role then. That comes to play only when Neil is involved. And I know one day your patience was lost and you burst 🤗
And I know that's why you came out so harshly against Neil. And this is coming from a complete stranger 😳 ... surprised how I know your name 😊
Anyway, one word of advise- don't lose the avneil lover in you because of Neil supporters. Let's see Neil as our Neil, whom Avni loved and still does. He will come around one day (or the CVs will somehow)... don't hate him so much that it will be hard to enjoy when Avneil becomes one. Because I believe they will eventually :)

Originally posted by: subiaman

@chocolatebond aka afsana... I know most of these people are mad because you called Neil
Cheap! But one thing I know from my stalking in this forum is that you are one of the biggest avneil/Adiza fan- more than many who claims otherwise. I have seen you feeling hurt day after day through these Avni bashing sessions that has been going on for weeks and you trying to tell that it's the CVs who is doing this. But nobody thought about CVs role then. That comes to play only when Neil is involved. And I know one day your patience was lost and you burst 🤗
And I know that's why you came out so harshly against Neil. And this is coming from a complete stranger 😳 ... surprised how I know your name 😊
Anyway, one word of advise- don't lose the avneil lover in you because of Neil supporters. Let's see Neil as our Neil, whom Avni loved and still does. He will come around one day (or the CVs will somehow)... don't hate him so much that it will be hard to enjoy when Avneil becomes one. Because I believe they will eventually :)

hey thanks buddy for being so sweet and understanding even now I want our old Neil and Avni back yes I'm pissed but my love for avNeil is more than hatred for Neil or avni anyday no matter what they do or made to do by writers and like you said hopefully everything will fall back into place eventually I just want our old avNeil back before the show ends 😃

Omg naj it's you! You changed your un and also changed color! Missed you so much girl, good ol days we have spent in this place 🤗

@subiaman

Hi Indu🤗, how are doing, u know seeing u here makes me nostalgic to the old golden days of the episode discussion thread *sigh* and of the show itself. I hope u are doing well, nice to see u here, really, it brings a nice feeling to see some of the old members of the forum.

I invested a lot of my time in this forum in the past, was at times doing daily reviews, posting caps, and gifs despite having a lot of things to do in real life, even the days I wasn't going to post anything I did it whenever someone asked me to, could never say no, obviously I did all this willingly and because I enjoyed doing it as well and I also enjoy sharing something I like. Though it's a fictional show and these are fictional characters, I made the mistake to get attached to it to a certain point, but yes to each coin two sides, if u watch a hindi show u should also face the consequences LOL.

It's a matter of perspective, I respect everyone's opinion here and I think the majority have a point which sounds logical to me when presented in a reasonable way, everyone also would gauge things according to how they think, or how they feel about things. For me both did mistakes, both were wrong at some point of time with regards to many things, both were victims of circumstances but fact remains that no matter what Avni would always be sympathized with more because of her pain and past, no matter what it will always tug at our hearts whenever we see her suffer and people would be more demanding towards Neil because he had a normal life before and because he was a police officer so people expect him to behave in a certain way, I reiterate that I don't agree with many things Neil did and yes he was wrong too, I never denied this. Yes Avni too was bashed by fans, but have u ever come across a post of me bashing her or calling her names, I might have been more on Neil's side, presenting mainly his perspective in the last months but I never disrespected Avni or demeaned her pain, her suffering or the things she did, if we go by feelings then yes many times I felt angry with Neil. People usually make it a point to bring how Juhi-Mishti were present in Avneil's life because of Neil, fair enough but even DVM and Amol were in Neil's life, just because Juhi is an ex and Mishti was a potential daughter so we dislike that doesn't mean these are not circumstances, Neil felt responsible to a certain point for them (I was not ok with the ex staying in his house, just saying), bottom line for me was that these are circumstances as sandhir.candy said, even Avni was framed by Vidyut, when u chose ur life partner u chose to stick by them through thick and thin till death do u apart, if you don't agree with a situation u raise ur voice, u make it clear, u discuss things together


Anyways it's a long debate, I still want AvNeil so my objective wasn't to make it a Neil vs Avni thing though I should have expected this to happen since I made a post about Neil no matter how many disclaimers I would put, I should have understood that it was bound to happen in the thread. U can feel more for one or the other that was never my problem, the thing that eventually made me uncomfortable is when we just crucify one for some deed that we forget all they did in the past but that's totally my problem. I tried all the time to present my thoughts politely and never said in my time here in the forum that Neil doesn't deserve Avni or that Avni doesn't deserve Neil, or wished anyone of them with another partner just because the other wronged them somehow, I have always been clear with what I want, for me AvNeil deserve each other because they love each other, if I pointed few points it's because I wished them to work on the root of their problems, on these things that at times affected their relationship, so that they could face circumstances and the challenges life throws their way in a better way.

Originally posted by: Survival

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">@subiaman

Hi Indu🤗, how are doing, u know seeing u here makes me nostalgic to the old golden days of the episode discussion thread *sigh* and of the show itself. I hope u are doing well, nice to see u here, really, it brings a nice feeling to see some of the old members of the forum.

I invested a lot of my time in this forum in the past, was at times doing daily reviews, posting caps, and gifs despite having a lot of things to do in real life, even the days I wasn't going to post anything I did it whenever someone asked me to, could never say no, obviously I did all this willingly and because I enjoyed doing it as well and I also enjoy sharing something I like. Though it's a fictional show and these are fictional characters, I made the mistake to get attached to it to a certain point, but yes to each coin two sides, if u watch a hindi show u should also face the consequences LOL.

It's a matter of perspective, I respect everyone's opinion here and I think the majority have a point which sounds logical to me when presented in a reasonable way, everyone also would gauge things according to how they think, or how they feel about things. For me both did mistakes, both were wrong at some point of time with regards to many things, both were victims of circumstances but fact remains that no matter what Avni would always be sympathized with more because of her pain and past, no matter what it will always tug at our hearts whenever we see her suffer and people would be </font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">more </font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">demanding towards Neil because he had a normal life before and because he was a police officer so people expect him to behave in a certain way, I reiterate that I don't agree with many things Neil did and yes he was wrong too, I never denied this. Yes Avni too was bashed by fans, but have u ever come across a post of me bashing her or calling her names, I might have been more on Neil's side, presenting mainly his perspective in the last months but I never disrespected Avni or demeaned her pain, her suffering or the things she did, if we go by feelings then yes many times I felt angry with Neil. People usually make it a point to bring how Juhi-Mishti were present in Avneil's life because of Neil, fair enough but even DVM and Amol were in Neil's life, just because Juhi is an ex and Mishti was a potential daughter so we dislike that doesn't mean these are not circumstances, Neil felt responsible to a certain point for them (I was not ok with the ex staying in his house, just saying), bottom line for me was that these are circumstances as sandhir.candy said, even Avni was framed by Vidyut, when u chose ur life partner u chose to stick by them through thick and thin till death do u apart, if you don't agree with a situation u raise ur voice, u make it clear, u discuss things together


Anyways it's a long debate, I still want AvNeil so my objective wasn't to make it a Neil vs Avni thing though I should have expected this to happen since I made a post about Neil no matter how many disclaimers I would put, I should have understood that it was bound to happen in the thread. U can feel more for one or the other that was never my problem, the thing that eventually made me uncomfortable is when we just crucify one for some deed that we forget all they did in the past but that's totally my problem. I tried all the time to present my thoughts politely and never said in my time here in the forum that Neil doesn't deserve Avni or that Avni doesn't deserve Neil, or wished anyone of them with another partner just because the other wronged them somehow, I have always been clear with what I want, for me AvNeil deserve each other because they love each other, if I pointed few points it's because I wished them to work on the root of their problems, on these things that at times affected their relationship, so that they could face circumstances and the challenges life throws their way in a better way.

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Good to hear from you too 🤗 agree with what you said. Bottom line is never he attached to the show characters 😊