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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Killer007

That is what i have been saying, as soon as anyone gives their point of view which is not in favour of shaan, r, s, x, n , b, b start quoting that persons post & argue!

why do u keep arguing then??? Let people have their opinions!


Is stop arguing a counter-argument? I am not trying to ridicule you. I just want to know your opinion on how the rebuttal is done that's all...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As a teama nd captain Shaan's team stands out simply because I love the different singing styles each singer beings in Shaan's team
Shadab - Sufiana singer. In fact according to me he is the best after Anwesha in their team, his range and voice are very strong. I would rank him above Hrashit and Debojit IN THEIR CURRENT FORM.
Some people say Shaan was blessed with stronger team. Not true. Rahul Vaidya came third in indian Idol 1 and won Jo Jeeta wahi Superstar. On the other hand, Harshit Saxena is not yet a winner in either VOI1 or JJWS. leaving aside winning factor, i don't think Hrashit is a stronger singer than Rahul. Rahul has a strong classical base but becuase of his antics people notice him more for that.
Then again Sharib has more fans than Debojit. Debojit may have won Challenge 2005, but he did not have many fans at that time and eevn now his fan following is limited. Sharib has more of a personality + looks to attract more fans. Though he was never a winner in any show and ranked 9'th in the show Debo won, he is already a music director with brother Toshi.
So i don't think Shaan has been given a MUCH better team. Not at all. In fact as I see it Shaan has utilized his team better, expreszxing his confidence in them and allowing them to perform. yes Anwesha is a very gifted singer and Neeti appears medicore but that is more than made up by Shankar's own singing prowess .
Shankar is very good at singing and experimenting / innovation. That's why his medleys are good despite he himself hogging all the attention. Thta's not the sign of agood captain who leads in suc a way that the best of his team mebers come out.
Just look at the fact that except for Rhaul, nobody from their team has won singer of the day even ONCE. whereas Anwesha, debo and Hrashit have all won. Shaan brings out the best in his team. and that's hwy they should win.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: mintyblue

Just look at the fact that except for Rhaul, nobody from their team has won singer of the day even ONCE. whereas Anwesha, debo and Hrashit have all won. Shaan brings out the best in his team. and that's hwy they should win.


Are you trying to say more than Once? or just once? As far as my memory goes, all of Shankar team contestants have won SOD.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Killer007 (earlier I posted this to rahul for some reason haha sorry about that)

I'm sorry I tried to give my contribution to this thread by expressing my opinion. Your post, which I liked and agreed with mostly, made TWO points against Shaan:

1. Shankar and Shreya have 'an edge' over Shaan in singing
2. Shankar is better behaved than Shaan

Out of those two points, I ONLY disagreed with the second point. Here is a reminder of my post:

Originally posted by: xobile

@Killer007 I agree with everything in your post except for the behaviour part. Shaan has not been disrespectful to anyone on the show. Whereas Shankar and his team have been disrespectful. Remember the time when Shankar lost against Mohit and pompously said 'Mein mohit ke liye khush hoon. Woh 'bechara' next round ke andar 'aa gaya na!'



Now, some people agreed with my post. Some disagreed. Somone999 disagreed, and this is her reply to my post:

Originally posted by: somone999

That was just said in a fun mood. I have more examples of Shaan saying things MORE DIRECT. But lets leave it. Don't want to argue.



You will notice two things about Somone999's post. Firstly, she doesn't make any personal comment about the judges or IF members. Secondly she makes her disagreement with my post clear. And thirdly, she also indicates that she does not want to get into an argument. Overall, a civilised post.

And now contrast this with YOUR reply to my post:

Originally posted by: Killer007

Oh! I was just expecting that, as soon as there is something true but bad about shaan there are x, s, n, b,b etc. who have to start debating and keep defending continiously even after being chopped! I will stick to all my points!

If that day shanker had behaved the way shaan did you would have spoken the other way around, you would have said mkmm rules allow captain to come any no. of times, shanker shouldnt have fought........blah blah.......
It is so sad that this forum is dominated by 3-4 people, & others are not even entitled to give their honest opinion! 😔



First of all, I don't just pounce upon anyone who says anything 'true but bad about Shaan'. You said TWO things against Shaan in your original post, and I only disagreed with one.

Second of all, if you don't want to discuss that's fine. Even somone999 didnt want to argue, but she expressed her wish nicely, without picking on IF members.

Thirdly, you say that people 'are not entitled to give their honest opinion' but when I gave my honest opinion about Shaan and Shankar's behaviour, you branded me as some fanatic who wants to defend Shaan at any cost! The hypocrisy!

I have NO problem with people who disagree with me or who don't want me to argue with them. I DO have a problem when people brand MY posts as 'senseless fanatacism for Shaan' but THEIR posts are 'honest opinion'.

I don't think I need write more... Jinko samajhna hai, woh samajh jaayenge...


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Posted: 15 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: redapple1


Are you trying to say more than Once? or just once? As far as my memory goes, all of Shankar team contestants have won SOD.

Ok if I remmeber-
Anwesha won 6 times
Hrashit once
Debo one
Total eight
Shankar's team--
Rahul once? not sure
Neeti once
sharib once
tital three
so eight as opposed to three is def. a big deal
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: safeenafarheen

Its a reply to those who used to say unneccessary copycat issues..first think it..

Our Shaan is d one who started his medley with theme,soon shankar,shreya followed..
agar shankar ek ganna Phir bhi dil hai hindustani gaaya toh,he just sing in list of his collection songs on first medley,did he named that medley theme on "desh",wat himesh tooked it as a theme and did well his medly on desh love..


Shaan did different medley based on different regional,its a thought of showing a different regional song in his medely theme,theme was different,dont behave as child ya,if in regional songs,one of region is marathi means wat we can do,u baseless combing him with shreya medley w/o knowing d difference again.shankr just bring ganapathi in his collection of songs on his sec medley,its not in theme based...

shaan bring shiv lord in making the theme of love and friendship bonding theme,first school friends,and then thy got separated,one friend came as don,another friend asking god to bring his lovable friend again,and then thy all meet ,friendship and love started,again u mistaked to understand the concept and says its copy..pl guys und it first wat was the theme,wer its going,how its a part of this theme..dont get insecure of shaan's talented medley and his strikers amazing performances from the first which brings lots of originality in viewers look,judges look,thy r d best,strikers still remain best..


Shaan bring his wife,shankar too bring,shaan bring his childs in jan1,shankar too bring his child..
Infact Shaan is d one who impressed us lot from the first to last episodes by his strikers or by his medleys..am comparing here from the first to last..while shankar always use dhinchak alaps stuff classical sargamps in most of his medley i mean to say mostly in all medleys i think,...

Which medley with theme are u are u talking about?? newyas I dont remember it.

Get your facts right safeena...2nd january against shreya he sang Marathi song which is not part of a regional theme ...regional theme was after that.

I kinda think they wouldnt have thought of bringing an Lord Shivas idol on the stage if they hadnt seen shankar doing it.
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wife child????? how is it connected to music ka muqabala????

I am sorry to say I wasnt much impressed by Shaans medleys...I found shreyas and Shankars medley better.
and Ya I do enjoy shankars alaps and sargams , atleast something different and not many singers can do what he does. neways I said what I had to probably wont be saying nething further.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: mintyblue

Ok if I remmeber-
Anwesha won 6 times
Hrashit once
Debo one
Total eight
Shankar's team--
Rahul once? not sure
Neeti once
sharib once
tital three
so eight as opposed to three is def. a big deal


Sorry, the way I read it was no one other than Rahul won the singer of the day award. Thanks for your clarification.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I never said you are a shaan fanatic or something! I am not picking on any IF members, I was disappointed when I saw people just blindly supporting their favourite & hating the other judges & 3-4 people giving baised opinions. My previous post was for n.......... who has been constantly defending & arguing for no reason! I dont have any personal grudges against you!

I never wanted to indulge in an argument!



Well I felt picked on, because in your list of people who 'keep defending continiously even after being chopped' there was an 'x' too. And I'm guessing I am that 'x'.

I hope you understand now that I do not defend Shaan on everything. I just give my POV, which is often in favour of Shaan. Is that such a bad thing?

Anyway, I think you understand my POV now. And I know you don't want to argue. So I won't go on about this.

To end, lemme just reiterate my first thoughts about your original post: it was an awesome analysis! And please keep posting on IF 😃


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: redapple1


Sorry, the way I read it was no one other than Rahul won the singer of the day award. Thanks for your clarification.



I think Sanjeev has won once, too. (On his debut performance if I remember rigthly!)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: xobile


I think Sanjeev has one once, too. (On his debut performance if I remember rigthly!)


yeah you are right. In the medley episode Shankar was telling that he is very proud of his team as everyone of them have won SOD award.

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