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Posted: 15 years ago
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having watched the epi like countless number of times and reading ur post equal number of times too, I think I can finally jot down something, tho I kno it wont make justice to the adrenaline rushing thru me at this very moment ..

do I REALLY remember what happ during the holi thingy in coll after their last scene ?? nope, I really dont think I rem that .. and I echo u diya, does love like this really EXIST ??? If it does, then lucky are the ppl who get it, because when u have love like this, even ONE lifetime isnt sufficient to completely FEEL and appreciate it ..

in jus one freaking episode, and not even every min of it, SaJan made me experience soo many myriad of emotions that by the end of it I was left AWE STRUCK ..

the first jalebi scene - oh I thought he is soo CUTE .. and a stubborn moron, later one as the scene proceeded, my sweetness for him was replaced wit curiosity, jus what was he trying to do? SHE cared for his happiness .. enuf to WANT him to stay away from him, because she THOUGHT she wasnt worthy of him ever, and even more so now, because she is physically incomplete for him .. they play along wit their battle of wits, she trying to tel him to go and he, trying very much NOT to..she is trying .. really trying very hard, making all sorts of excuses, not changing his lifestyle for her..not ditching his friends for his love, which may go down as selfless in her defense, because she IS selfless .. and there's nothing else she can think of otherwise anyway, he very calmy and coolly wins thru all of them .. without ONCE making her feel as tho she is alone or surrounded wit self pity .. his dialogue "isiliye toh main tumse door jaata nahin chashmish, kahin agar tumhe meri jaroorat nahi padi, toh main akela reh jaunga!" to a third person, it wud seem jus a flirtatious line filled wit humour, but only THEY knew how much imp it held at tht very moment .. because it was ALL she needed to hear and at the same time, not wanting to hear too ..

finally, very calmly and in her style, she tells him "main tum par bojh nahin banna chahti..." if I had EVER wondered what was it that can ruffle the very cool and calm interior of samrat..because VERY rarely can he get angry .. then its only two things - either something that happens TO her ... or something that happens BECAUSE of her .. the moment he heard the word "bojh" it felt like a slap to him and yet, he KNEW where she was coming from .. sheeesh jus HOW can they b soo magical ?? hence getting angry ON her wasnt something he could even imagine in this circumstance too ...

but she is stubborn and if she is stubborn then he is stubborness personified, however, jus this once, he lets her won because that is for her too .. he knows that she wants to prove something and hence for once he lets her win .. and leaves from ther ...

whatever happened later on, has gotten me completely ZAPPED .. all I rem is sam telling the doc "aisi hi ek koshish chashmish ne jane anjane mein ki.." and then he promises her .. that THEY wil make her walk again, not she..not him .. THEY wil ..

and thus began his promise .. the bedroom scene was something that I stil feel undescribable .. because jus thinking abt it races my heartbeat to such an extent that I need to calm myself down to even make myself coherent ..

if I hav always seen and felt gunjan's love to b selfless and pure, then today, for the first time I experienced the selflessness and purity of sam's love for her ... he knows she is as fragile as a glass, but deep deep within, he knows that she has the sheer strength of steel and an equally strong determination and once he is able to reach THAT, then their battle is already almost won .. jus what were those dialogues ?? jus what were they ?? no..I dont think I wud call them love .. because then I wud b demeaning the very essence of that scene .. because thats the strength of their love and he knows that too..thats why he is soo able to attempt to make her angry .. provoke her until she jus HAS to give in .. because thats what she had always wanted to, even tho she never admitted it ..

yes, she had accepted her paralysis wit grace and diginity and a zeal to live life WITH it .. but what after? had she really thought whether she wud WANT to recover? she admired life's beauty but never hoped for much, jus like the person she is and has always been .. sam, however, was and has always been a dreamer .. and this time, it wasnt only HIS dreams.. but HERS too and more importantly, THEIRS .. and he wil do anything..anything in this world to protect them and make them REAL ..

and SHE knew later on what he was trying all along, ofcourse she had to.. they can READ each other's minds..jus for a few mins earlier sam was a bit too fast for her to figure him out .. later on, he let her figure him out tho .. and she did! but the determination that he had gotten inside her made her believe that its possible for her .. and she realised she HAD to give it a try ..

she tries, she is falling, he doesnt LET her .. he pushes her, encourages her .. until she finally falls down .. he picks her up and puts her on the bed .. satisfied that the first attempt went on pretty well .. but SHE has almost given up .. did he expect that? ofcourse he did, its chashmish! but thats why he IS ther for her ..

"main haar gayi samrat..main kabhi nahin chal paungi.."

"kabhi nahin chashmish..abhi nahin chal sakti.."

and thats WHY sam is the only one who completes her, her true SOULMATE .. because he doesnt give up on her..nor does he let HER given up on herself .. he teaches her to brace the storms that she is running away from and not only to brace them and face them, but also win over them so completely .. such that they can NEVER leave a scar behind .. it was the same wit talent parade..its the same now, tho now the feelings and determination have magnified thousand fold because its not jus for her this time .. its for THEM ..


Edited by mads - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Diya ...i have just been watching the epi like endless times ..&..i just can't stop .....but your post is just so well written that i had to take time out to reply to it .

I am going to comment on this post in detail later .

I don't know how i am going to keep up with you guys .....i just can't stop gushing about the SaJan scenes ....they just manage to redefine love everytime ....before i can know it & analyse it .....they redefine it .😳

Edited by angelshy - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mads

having watched the epi like countless number of times and reading ur post equal number of times too, I think I can finally jot down something, tho I kno it wont make justice to the adrenaline rushing thru me at this very moment ..

do I REALLY remember what happ during the holi thingy in coll after their last scene ?? nope, I really dont think I rem that .. and I echo u diya, does love like this really EXIST ??? If it does, then lucky are the ppl who get it, because when u have love like this, even ONE lifetime isnt sufficient to completely FEEL and appreciate it ..

in jus one freaking episode, and not even every min of it, SaJan made me experience soo many myriad of emotions that by the end of it I was left AWE STRUCK ..

the first jalebi scene - oh I thought he is soo CUTE .. and a stubborn moron, later one as the scene proceeded, my sweetness for him was replaced wit curiosity, jus what was he trying to do? SHE cared for his happiness .. enuf to WANT him to stay away from him, because she THOUGHT she wasnt worthy of him ever, and even more so now, because she is physically incomplete for him .. they play along wit their battle of wits, she trying to tel him to go and he, trying very much NOT to..she is trying .. really trying very hard, making all sorts of excuses, not changing his lifestyle for her..not ditching his friends for his love, which may go down as selfless in her defense, because she IS selfless .. and there's nothing else she can think of otherwise anyway, he very calmy and coolly wins thru all of them .. without ONCE making her feel as tho she is alone or surrounded wit self pity .. his dialogue "isiliye toh main tumse door jaata nahin chashmish, kahin agar tumhe meri jaroorat nahi padi, toh main akela reh jaunga!" to a third person, it wud seem jus a flirtatious line filled wit humour, but only THEY knew how much imp it held at tht very moment .. because it was ALL she needed to hear and at the same time, not wanting to hear too ..

finally, very calmly and in her style, she tells him "main tum par bojh nahin banna chahti..." if I had EVER wondered what was it that can ruffle the very cool and calm interior of samrat..because VERY rarely can he get angry .. then its only two things - either something that happens TO her ... or something that happens BECAUSE of her .. the moment he heard the word "bojh" it felt like a slap to him and yet, he KNEW where she was coming from .. sheeesh jus HOW can they b soo magical ?? hence getting angry ON her wasnt something he could even imagine in this circumstance too ...

but she is stubborn and if she is stubborn then he is stubborness personified, however, jus this once, he lets her won because that is for her too .. he knows that she wants to prove something and hence for once he lets her win .. and leaves from ther ...

whatever happened later on, has gotten me completely ZAPPED .. all I rem is sam telling the doc "aisi hi ek koshish chashmish ne jane anjane mein ki.." and then he promises her .. that THEY wil make her walk again, not she..not him .. THEY wil ..

and thus began his promise .. the bedroom scene was something that I stil feel undescribable .. because jus thinking abt it races my heartbeat to such an extent that I need to calm myself down to even make myself coherent ..

if I hav always seen and felt gunjan's love to b selfless and pure, then today, for the first time I experienced the selflessness and purity of sam's love for her ... he knows she is as fragile as a glass, but deep deep within, he knows that she has the sheer strength of steel and an equally strong determination and once he is able to reach THAT, then their battle is already almost won .. jus what were those dialogues ?? jus what were they ?? no..I dont think I wud call them love .. because then I wud b demeaning the very essence of that scene .. because thats the strength of their love and he knows that too..thats why he is soo able to attempt to make her angry .. provoke her until she jus HAS to give in .. because thats what she had always wanted to, even tho she never admitted it ..

yes, she had accepted her paralysis wit grace and diginity and a zeal to live life WITH it .. but what after? had she really thought whether she wud WANT to recover? she admired life's beauty but never hoped for much, jus like the person she is and has always been .. sam, however, was and has always been a dreamer .. and this time, it wasnt only HIS dreams.. but HERS too and more importantly, THEIRS .. and he wil do anything..anything in this world to protect them and make them REAL ..

and SHE knew later on what he was trying all along, ofcourse she had to.. they can READ each other's minds..jus for a few mins earlier sam was a bit too fast for her to figure him out .. later on, he let her figure him out tho .. and she did! but the determination that he had gotten inside her made her believe that its possible for her .. and she realised she HAD to give it a try ..

she tries, she is falling, he doesnt LET her .. he pushes her, encourages her .. until she finally falls down .. he picks her up and puts her on the bed .. satisfied that the first attempt went on pretty well .. but SHE has almost given up .. did he expect that? ofcourse he did, its chashmish! but thats why he IS ther for her ..

"main haar gayi samrat..main kabhi nahin chal paungi.."

"kabhi nahin chashmish..abhi nahin chal sakti.."

and thats WHY sam is the only one who completes her, her true SOULMATE .. because he doesnt give up on her..nor does he let HER given up on herself .. he teaches her to brace the storms that she is running away from and not only to brace them and face them, but also win over them so completely .. such that they can NEVER leave a scar behind .. it was the same wit talent parade..its the same now, tho now the feelings and determination have magnified thousand fold because its not jus for her this time .. its for THEM ..


Aww Mads you are such a brilliant writer ......i have enjoyed reading what you have written just as much as the epi ......believe me thats a huge compliment .

You guys make me feel so proud ......that i am a SaJan fan ...your analysis of every emotion in every SaJan scene today is so perfect & beautiful .Thank you !

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ab mein kya kahoon?
You guys have said it all😆
All I know is I'm on Cloud Nine right now!
I have loads of Jodis that I like but out of all those Jodis only ONE that I abssolutely LOVE and today's episode pretty much explained why.

Everything today, from the dialogue, to the actions, to the expressions on SaJan's faces just hammered home LOVE LOVE LOVE.
I've said this before and I'll say it again SaJan's Love to me just seems a lot more than just Love. It's too Deep and too Meaningful to be just called Love. And it's definately the Ever-After-And-Beyond Type of Love.
I've NEVER seen a Jodi THIS Deep in Love anywhere.

As for MoNaya? They are just killing us scene by scene!
The emotions, theexpressions EVERYTHING was just MINDBLOWING today!

Honestly we complain about the CVs all the time but one thing I doubt we could EVER complain about is SaJan. CVs have really outdone themselves today and they really do deserve some applause for that!👏
👏
Ah Samrat!☺️ Can this guy GET anymore Januable?
Love how he just comes out and says it: Kyun kay mein tumse pyar karta hoon
Not embarrassed or shy, he just SAID it. And Chashmish stumbled! She stumbled in her Retreat when he said that! You could see it on her expression!
And when she sent him away you could see how much he was hurting but he went because He Loves Her No other reason than that.
He wants to be with her but he'll go if she tells him.

Everything we see between SaJan is TRUE LOVE.

Specifically, True Love, that Holy Grail of the adult relationship.

Because what SaJan feel for each can in no way be described as Childish or Young Puppy Love. It's True Love.

True Love: that thing where you have been through the thick and the thin, a lot of the better, some of the worse, some sickness but more health.

And you still get the tinglies when you look at him.

True Love, the real thing, the thing that is there after all the passion has calmed down, the thing that is there when you have acknowledged that that REALLY ANNOYING little thing the other person does is NOT going away, the thing that is even there when you're staring at each other hip deep in trouble that could have been prevented, and wasn't.

True Love is found in how the small things are handled as well as the large things.

True love is the adjustment of routine, accommodation, easy exchange. True love is how you realize that even when you're sleeping alone in a hotel room you sleep on "your" side of the bed. True love is how you pick up the other person's favorite stuff at the store, how you take up the household slack when they're busy or not well, and how you remember to say thank you when you see what's been done. It's in the space you give each other as much as in the closeness.

True Love is not ineffable. It is in how you do the work of integrating the other person into your life so firmly that most days you don't even feel like it's work.

True Love pays attention. You notice when the other person needs you. You do notice when they're tired, when they're hurting, when they're just plain pissed off with the day, and you know what to do about it, and you do it. True Love notices whether or not things like, oh, Valentine's Day, are important to the other person and to what degree they're important, and responds appropriately.

True Love forgives slip-ups on the details, because True Love is a thing that happens between adults. True Love, for all it's reputation for making grown people into idiots, actually forces the most adult behaviors and decisions you are ever going to make, because when it is real, it puts another person's life into your hands.

True love does the hard things. Even when the hard thing is "If you don't get help for your drinking/drugs/depression, I'm leaving." Because True Love does not allow, or demand, self-destruction. No matter what nineteenth century novelists tell you, True Love does not kill you, separately or together. If you're dying for it, it's infatuation, it's passion, it's obsession but it is not love. True Love does not want you dead. True Love wants you alive and happy and walking the Earth for as long as possible.

True Love is pushing when that Someone doesn't want to be pushed. It's being harsh when you don't want to be but have to be.

True love is a shelter, but True Love is not salvation. It can, however, help you find the way to save yourself.

True love is not blind. True love sees the whole picture, clearly, way beyond what your mirror shows you and it stays with you despite the changes you see in that mirror. It shifts and it turns and it grows. It's complicated. Oh, boy, is it complicated. It is sometimes incomprehensible to anyone who is not in it, and yet you know it when you see it.

True Love involves attraction and plenty of it. But it involves much more friendship and respect. Friendship and respect will get you through a lull in your Attraction Phase way better than Attraction will get you through a lull in your respect.

True Love evolves. It stretches and changes. It is very different at the end than it is at the beginning.

True Love is not jealous because True Love is confident and secure, because of all that work put in. This does not mean there is no fear when there is True Love. One of the prices paid in return for the benefits is the occasional fear of loss that can at times be utterly overwhelming.

It is true that True Love is a trap. You are not free anymore, and times you look out the window and just want to run away from all the responsibilities and pressures being an adult in love has brought down on you. And then you turn around again, and the little thing happens, like cuddling up against your Someone at four in the morning when you can't sleep for the fear and the worry, and, without waking, they put their arm around you and pull you close. And all the world is all right again and you know you'll be able to get up in the morning and get back to work just fine.

True Love.

All the parts that are in Bold are all the things that I saw in today's episode. And I'm just Loving' it.


Love you Guys

Aisha xxx🤗
Edited by thornewood9 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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These are so brilliantly written posts that nothing is left to say.
Today's episode was so beautiful that I can't express in words. The selflessness, purity, strength of their love makes them such a magical couple. SaJan just take our breath away into their magical world.
Hats off to SaJan/MoNaya :-)
Proud to be SaJanian.
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omg u guys have written way more than what SaJaN potrays onscreen, so deep....
SaJaN are not only a couple in love, their care for each other, their respect for each other, their world revolves around each other, they are just truly januable couple i hv ever seen, now i just hope that never ever does MJHT CVs ruin their luv story like Armaan nd Riddhima.....coz SaJaN are just too close to my heart at this moment.....:) and i want them to be blessed foreverwith each other's love...:)😊
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Diya!! Wow u have described it so beautifully dear!! love ur post so much!! I just don't have proper words to express my feelings...thats why I remain silent most of the times..I just love reading everyones analysis or POV..u all ROCK guys!! 👏 👏 n what can I say about SaJan?? They're just beyond mindblowing..like u said Diya just who writes their dialogues is what me too wonder...n hats off to MoNaya for their portrayal..they just drive me crazy with every scene..that I can't even express my feelings in words!! Love SaJan so much for their selfless love for each other!! 😳 😳 😃
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Originally posted by: mads

having watched the epi like countless number of times and reading ur post equal number of times too, I think I can finally jot down something, tho I kno it wont make justice to the adrenaline rushing thru me at this very moment ..

do I REALLY remember what happ during the holi thingy in coll after their last scene ?? nope, I really dont think I rem that .. and I echo u diya, does love like this really EXIST ??? If it does, then lucky are the ppl who get it, because when u have love like this, even ONE lifetime isnt sufficient to completely FEEL and appreciate it ..

in jus one freaking episode, and not even every min of it, SaJan made me experience soo many myriad of emotions that by the end of it I was left AWE STRUCK ..

the first jalebi scene - oh I thought he is soo CUTE .. and a stubborn moron, later one as the scene proceeded, my sweetness for him was replaced wit curiosity, jus what was he trying to do? SHE cared for his happiness .. enuf to WANT him to stay away from him, because she THOUGHT she wasnt worthy of him ever, and even more so now, because she is physically incomplete for him .. they play along wit their battle of wits, she trying to tel him to go and he, trying very much NOT to..she is trying .. really trying very hard, making all sorts of excuses, not changing his lifestyle for her..not ditching his friends for his love, which may go down as selfless in her defense, because she IS selfless .. and there's nothing else she can think of otherwise anyway, he very calmy and coolly wins thru all of them .. without ONCE making her feel as tho she is alone or surrounded wit self pity .. his dialogue "isiliye toh main tumse door jaata nahin chashmish, kahin agar tumhe meri jaroorat nahi padi, toh main akela reh jaunga!" to a third person, it wud seem jus a flirtatious line filled wit humour, but only THEY knew how much imp it held at tht very moment .. because it was ALL she needed to hear and at the same time, not wanting to hear too ..

finally, very calmly and in her style, she tells him "main tum par bojh nahin banna chahti..." if I had EVER wondered what was it that can ruffle the very cool and calm interior of samrat..because VERY rarely can he get angry .. then its only two things - either something that happens TO her ... or something that happens BECAUSE of her .. the moment he heard the word "bojh" it felt like a slap to him and yet, he KNEW where she was coming from .. sheeesh jus HOW can they b soo magical ?? hence getting angry ON her wasnt something he could even imagine in this circumstance too ...

but she is stubborn and if she is stubborn then he is stubborness personified, however, jus this once, he lets her won because that is for her too .. he knows that she wants to prove something and hence for once he lets her win .. and leaves from ther ...

whatever happened later on, has gotten me completely ZAPPED .. all I rem is sam telling the doc "aisi hi ek koshish chashmish ne jane anjane mein ki.." and then he promises her .. that THEY wil make her walk again, not she..not him .. THEY wil ..

and thus began his promise .. the bedroom scene was something that I stil feel undescribable .. because jus thinking abt it races my heartbeat to such an extent that I need to calm myself down to even make myself coherent ..

if I hav always seen and felt gunjan's love to b selfless and pure, then today, for the first time I experienced the selflessness and purity of sam's love for her ... he knows she is as fragile as a glass, but deep deep within, he knows that she has the sheer strength of steel and an equally strong determination and once he is able to reach THAT, then their battle is already almost won .. jus what were those dialogues ?? jus what were they ?? no..I dont think I wud call them love .. because then I wud b demeaning the very essence of that scene .. because thats the strength of their love and he knows that too..thats why he is soo able to attempt to make her angry .. provoke her until she jus HAS to give in .. because thats what she had always wanted to, even tho she never admitted it ..

yes, she had accepted her paralysis wit grace and diginity and a zeal to live life WITH it .. but what after? had she really thought whether she wud WANT to recover? she admired life's beauty but never hoped for much, jus like the person she is and has always been .. sam, however, was and has always been a dreamer .. and this time, it wasnt only HIS dreams.. but HERS too and more importantly, THEIRS .. and he wil do anything..anything in this world to protect them and make them REAL ..

and SHE knew later on what he was trying all along, ofcourse she had to.. they can READ each other's minds..jus for a few mins earlier sam was a bit too fast for her to figure him out .. later on, he let her figure him out tho .. and she did! but the determination that he had gotten inside her made her believe that its possible for her .. and she realised she HAD to give it a try ..

she tries, she is falling, he doesnt LET her .. he pushes her, encourages her .. until she finally falls down .. he picks her up and puts her on the bed .. satisfied that the first attempt went on pretty well .. but SHE has almost given up .. did he expect that? ofcourse he did, its chashmish! but thats why he IS ther for her ..

"main haar gayi samrat..main kabhi nahin chal paungi.."

"kabhi nahin chashmish..abhi nahin chal sakti.."

and thats WHY sam is the only one who completes her, her true SOULMATE .. because he doesnt give up on her..nor does he let HER given up on herself .. he teaches her to brace the storms that she is running away from and not only to brace them and face them, but also win over them so completely .. such that they can NEVER leave a scar behind .. it was the same wit talent parade..its the same now, tho now the feelings and determination have magnified thousand fold because its not jus for her this time .. its for THEM ..



@bold--- Mads u just killed me with these lines....it draws out d essence of their inherent goodness which makes them stand out together in a crowd .....typically "bheed me bhi yu lage ki yeh do akeke yahan"..........d purity, density, poignance, earnestness of their love seems to be outlined in these lines of urs.........u made my day mads!!!! n i cant agree more with u that they are not anything else but soulmates whether they like it or not, want it or not, they cannot help this bond woven by an invisible thread of love which can never be broken coz it can never be seen or touched but when tested it will resist to show it exists
Edited by meens1981 - 15 years ago
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Oh...superb post! My feelings exactly....so well written Diya.
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I was speechless after the epi but after your post I became died

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