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Posted: 11 years ago


See Abhay,
The eternal query...MUZ-Akbar and their Brood...🤣🤣 Back to Square One...!!

@ KDR81

Just being curious!😛 I really do appreciate all the research you guys have been doing⭐️... just wanted to know if you found more information on their brood ...plus with the mixed information about their brood I agree it is hard to know if the information is valid...😳 Anyway this is not the only thing I would like to learn about this part of Mughal History! So you are not back to Square One!😉
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Posted: 11 years ago



Welcome to these threads..😊
Wait..
Will PM(send u a message)..😊..

@history_geek

Thanks, I'm glad that I have joined the forum!😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: stargirl327



See Abhay,
The eternal query...MUZ-Akbar and their Brood...🤣🤣 Back to Square One...!!


@ KDR81

Just being curious!😛 I really do appreciate all the research you guys have been doing⭐️... just wanted to know if you found more information on their brood ...plus with the mixed information about their brood I agree it is hard to know if the information is valid...😳 Anyway this is not the only thing I would like to learn about this part of Mughal History! So you are not back to Square One!😉


😃 Thnx dear for understanding ...😆 Hope our joint study can give u some useful info on right time...😃😃
Abhay, take a heed...😉😆
Edited by KDR81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

WOW! Magnificent post.
Now I understand your ID name on this forum
Hats off - really you have taken such huge effort to educate people about history
I have only read the 1st page but just could not resist keeping a reply before reading the rest of it.

I did not even want to watch this serial. I thought it will be a typical love story. A friend here on this forum Heena, who watched told me it is different and I should watch. After watching just 2 episodes I was hooked. I started watching from Rukayya fake pregnancy track and now I am catching up with old episodes.

I must say I really like this take on Jodha Akbar. It just makes me wonder to think of what real Jodha could have gone through, 400+ years back - having to marry the man she despises, go into different religion, culture, live with people who hated everything about her. In spite of all this she blossomed and changed Jalal into Akbar. Like somebody commented here on the forum she is 21st century woman.

What you have written only reinforces the influence and power she had over Akbar and on history of that period. That too being a woman in such fedual society.
I watch Jodha Akbar for Jodha's story but also Akbar's for how Jodha turned Jalal into Akbar.
I am very eager to read rest of your entire post and replies. Will share it with my friends.
Please share more such information.



Thanx Maddy..
I am keeping it short and simple.

@ Pink
She had the power. The fact is undisputed. In my subsequent threads, you will find all that.
And, yes i was DUMBSTRUCK myself reading all the power and "FARMANS" she gave. I mean how come a lady gives farman to powerful commanders SINGLE HANDEDLY and commands cavalry...??...etc. etc. !?..?!...These are mentioned somewhere in my subsequent threads/parts...

@Blue
This fact "wondered" me too. That's why started digging these old graves.

@Red
Fake track.!!...
I am puzzled seeing how many events are true here..And, on top of it they appear highly unlikely to happen.
I must say the track was not completely fake. I mean it had true events. I tried finding more on it, but could not get all infos in place. Here is the link for that track. You will end up pondering howcome Humayun had a look-alike in reality...!!!...Just think was it true or not.?..I am not able to conclude... I am in dilemma..

This is mentioned in my Part-2 thread...
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36
Ruqs MC track is on page-10...of this part..

@Green
Sure...I am only sharing my findings here.
It's a 2 way process. I also learn a lot from people here.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks for your reply. Sorry I mistakenly confused 2 tracks, Ruakyaya pregnancy & Jodha's fake pregnancy track. I meant started watching from Rukayya's pregnancy track.

I have been reading your threads, just onto part 2 now. You are giving fascinating information. I am not aware if you have posted this information. I want to know
At what age Jodha & Jalal got married?
How long a married life they had?
Did Rukayya have any children?

If you have already shared this information please just write that, I will find it out in your threads.

I meant share if you have made other such informative posts (other than those 4 parts given in your Mariam-Uz-Zamani post)


Originally posted by: history_geek



Thanx Maddy..
I am keeping it short and simple.

@ Pink
She had the power. The fact is undisputed. In my subsequent threads, you will find all that.
And, yes i was DUMBSTRUCK myself reading all the power and "FARMANS" she gave. I mean how come a lady gives farman to powerful commanders SINGLE HANDEDLY and commands cavalry...??...etc. etc. !?..?!...These are mentioned somewhere in my subsequent threads/parts...

@Blue
This fact "wondered" me too. That's why started digging these old graves.

@Red
Fake track.!!...
I am puzzled seeing how many events are true here..And, on top of it they appear highly unlikely to happen.
I must say the track was not completely fake. I mean it had true events. I tried finding more on it, but could get all infos in place. Here is the link for that track. You will end up pondering howcome Humayun had a look-alike in reality...!!!...Just think was it true or not.?..I am not able to conclude... I am in dilemma..

This is mentioned in my Part-2 thread...
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36
Ruqs MC track is on page-10...of this part..

@Green
Sure...I am only sharing my findings here.
It's a 2 way process. I also learn a lot from people here.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Thanks for your reply. Sorry I mistakenly confused 2 tracks, Ruakyaya pregnancy & Jodha's fake pregnancy track. I meant started watching from Rukayya's pregnancy track.

I have been reading your threads, just onto part 2 now. You are giving fascinating information. I am not aware if you have posted this information. I want to know
At what age Jodha & Jalal got married?
How long a married life they had?
Did Rukayya have any children?

If you have already shared this information please just write that, I will find it out in your threads.

I meant share if you have made other such informative posts (other than those 4 parts given in your Mariam-Uz-Zamani post)



@Red...u will get many answers..

As far as ur 3 questions are considered...they are very common...
..around 20 yrs
..around 43 yrs
..No (*discretion needed😉*)
And as said before, u will get lot of answers on the threads...

Though i do not like discussing this topic.NOW.
...!!!!
Hope u understand.
It's better to put things with References because this topic is HIGHLY DISPUTED here.
It will come in future threads. Better to wait.😊

Only 4 parts till NOW...
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



@Red...u will get many answers..

As far as ur 3 questions are considered...they are very common...
..around 20 yrs
..around 43 yrs
..No
And as said before, u will get lot of answers on the threads...

Though i do not like discussing this topic.NOW.
...!!!!
Hope u understand.
It's better to put things with References because this topic is HIGHLY DISPUTED here.
It will come in future threads. Better to wait.😊

Only 4 parts till NOW...



To respond to your line blue above, I can totally understand that!
You must be getting bombarded with Qs. Thanks for answering.

I asked the Q about age cos GOSH Jalal had big count haram even at age 20!!! And Jodha was sheltered protected 20, fascinating contrast!
They certainly had long married life.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sara1960

@history_geek

dear...

i am amazed to see the depth upto which you researched on this topic.hats off to u. myself a history buff, as my father was posted in Delhi and Agra circle of ASI..i agree to all your research except a few minor points, which i would like to discuss?

joined IF after a friend of mine recommended me your posts. this is my first day on IF. have not gone through the comment pages of your article.will go soon...Hats off to your hard work dear. i have come across such piece of information. you are proceeding in the right direction.The historical archives are best sources. keep going.

regards
sara



Thanx for the appreciation.

Have written the "MAIN POST" after careful scrutiny. But still, if there is any error, eagerly waiting for your queries. Looking forward...4...a...healthy knowledge sharing discussion.

P.S. -> 😊 Better, if we have thread specific questions. Have 4 threads till now. All thread specific discussions will keep things managed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
ok dear.

i will grill only to the extent of your post. got some time today. as of now, i need a clarification of sorts for one point.

you mentioned Mariam Zamani/Heer Kunwari to be the "only" lady/queen in entire history of mughal empire to command a cavalry of 12,000. but according to my knowledge, a sister of Aurangzeb also commanded/handled an army unit.

so your statement is irking me a bit. would you clarify it dear ?
i enjoy debating history. seems, you too are in same ship.

regards
sara
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Posted: 11 years ago
Abhay, you have exceeded your limit of receiving messages.
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