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Posted: 13 years ago
Doodsy 🤗

Thanks for explaining the GH connection for Arnav's taunt to Khushi about staying up all night despite not being guilty.
I was wondering why he said it.

Only thing, did Arnav lie to Khushi for his ego or not?

Subconsciously maybe he did it out of love then?


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ash08

Doodsiepie 🤗 How are you?

Am I glad I saw this post or what?? 😃

You are brilliant as usual. You know what part I dread? The day Shyam's truth comes out... The day the lives of these three in-their-own way righteous people are going to be bombarded with the truth and the way these three will react to the situation.

The bonds will be stronger between the three. The understanding will be greater. But the acceptance will be slower. And ASR will be torn into two seeing his Di's hurt and seeing his love's hatred and its not an easy situation to be in - the two most important people in his life. For Khushi, knowing that the person she loves tricked her into a marriage without even talking to her, questioning her, trusting her will kill all her innocence and easy attitude. And for Anjali, her life boat is wrecked. The person whom she thought to be her anchor turned out to be a shark and the shelter of a life she built around herself will be shattered leaving her and her heart exposed to the harsh realities... After a while, Khushi and ASR will have each other. But Anjali?? She will be alone. And then I want a hottie in the show just for her... 😆


Moi back...

Ash baby hugzzz 🤗 Kitne dino ke baad??? Kaisi ho tum??? and you watching IPK?? OS kahan hain??? Kinna saare sawaal.😆

Well yeh toh hona hi hain??? That's what I always say, when Khushi will learn the truth she will leave and disappointed that Arnie didn't even bother to ask her and trust her.

With Anjali, yeah, a very dashing new entry chahiye..hai naa??? 🤣

Welcome to Redux... dekho Tant ke thread ko humne Redux bana diya... hahahha 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sbk2

Doodsy 🤗


Thanks for explaining the GH connection for Arnav's taunt to Khushi about staying up all night despite not being guilty.
I was wondering why he said it.

Only thing, did Arnav lie to Khushi for his ego or not?

Subconsciously maybe he did it out of love then?



Sweth, he is a complicated character and more over he is fighting his own battle inside his heart. He wants to love her and give credit to her and I tell you there is NO EGO between them but it's the inner battle that he is fighting with. He wants to believe her but he cannot as Shyaam issue is getting in between them.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: pixiegirl

@ Doods, hats off to you, I bow to you for your brilliant analysis, and it was absolutely B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T. no two ways about that. 👏 👏


Btw, before I begin to say anything, tomaake Shubho Noboborsher preeti o shubhechha jaanachchi. 🤗

I was thoroughly confused after watching yesterday's episode, and was waiting impatiently for yours & Tanths analyses, to clear the confusion and you've managed to completely dispel my confusion now. Thank you. 😃

Let me tell you why, but first I have to say this, I agree 200% with you about the Payash scene, it was absolutely pathetic. To say I was disgusted would be putting it mildly. What was that??? 😲 How can they make them behave like two lovesick puppies in front of a 9 year old and then the MIL??? 😡 I think I read a look of disgust and uncomfortableness in the eyes of the little girl too, having to witness their sick display of emotions. Eeeks. 🤢

Okay, I must have watched the episode at least 3/4 times yesterday to decipher the Anjali-Arnav-Khushi scenes, and I read quite a few posts in the hopes of clearing my confusion, but nothing did, because I refused to buy what was said by either Anjali or Arnav at face value. None of their dialogs made sense, b/c Arnav's expressions were telling me a completely different story, hence I could not add up the scenes. For example, him mocking Khushi and saying, "Tum mere liye pareshaan ho rahin thi?" Which meant he wasn't buying her concern at all so why would he go to the extent of lying to her to relieve her worry of him?? Completely contradictory IMO. Granted his whole attack on Khushi was a spur of the moment idea, but it still had to make sense... So he goaded her into the fake pyaar thing that she's been jataaoing only to expose her later??? Wow!!

I definitely knew what Anjali said to Arnav about him lying to Khushi to relieve her wasn't true completely. He knows he loves her so why should he be so surprised to learn the "extent" to how much he loves her??? It didn't make any sense... So when I read your analysis Doods, it added up perfectly. His expression was mainly about his guilt at hurting her knowingly when as you said deep down he knew her concern & care for him was absolutely genuine. You're exactly right, he was thoroughly confused with her actions as it didn't add up to the image he has of her in his mind. Another factor that didn't add up about Anjali's theory was exactly as you said, the relationship b/c Arnav & Khushi is entirely different than Arnav's relationship with Anjali. If he gets worried when he sees Anjali worried, he loves Khushi worrying over him. It's whole different thing. He would want to be babied and taken care of like any man would from his wife, so Anjali's theory wasn't making any sense to me whatsoever, but thanks to you, now I get the story completely. Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are just the best. 👏

Thank God, Arnav's gotten the first seeds of doubts planted in his head, and will start back tracking his steps and arrive at the right conclusion eventually. Hallelujah!!!! 😆

But Doods I have a question for you, what did Arnav mean when he asked Khushi, "Pehele yeh bataao, poori raat pareshaan hokar kaisa lagta hai? Kaisa laga bina galti kiye guilty feel karna??" Was he asking her this b/c he himself has been there after the GH issue and wants to see her tortured like him? I am still a little confused about it, since no dialog is said randomly, this has to mean something, any ideas???


Thanks Pixie. You are the sweetest. 😃

It's really a complicated episode to understand but anyway, now I guess we need Shyaam-Khushi interaction more. I have answered your queries and actually was happy to see that the unconsciousness attack actually had a connection with the GH scene. 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: IPKKNDFAN29

@ Doods ,,,,,, You hv answered abt decoding ASR exactly the same way as I was Thinking, even though I felt until now whenever ASR has tried to explain himself to KHUSHI in extreme conditions, due to the diffrence in approach of their thinking KHUSHI has nvr listened to him or given him a chance to Explain himself. & even when KHUSHI has questioned him, He hasnt come out with answers for her again in extreme situations. BUT when MU will be cleared the both will come on the same page that their relations are of paramount importance to them, than ASR will let KHUSHI peep into his soul & bring in the understanding bcz Until than for him she is the tainted one, once she gets cleared of this he will definitely take the intiative for then he will hv her in high esteem due to selfless act... Also even though on various occasion he has hurt Khushi, I meam holding her too Hard leaving her bruised, for which he himself has felt guilty yet she has nvr accused him of manhandling him, what I mean she has been extremely tolerant & patient with Him, in medium to medicore situations, so that leads him to expose himself bcz smewhere he will be able to connect her with acceptance for him.

Are we in sync on this????


Bingo 👍🏼 You said it correctly. We are sync with it definitely. 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
Doodz🤗

Will join you all in around in 20 minutes. Till then just wanted to say, I COMPLETELY agree with you, they need Bring Mr. V aka Villain in and get rid of Miss B...Cos to me the effort that goes in for writing that kiddo's scenes, the effort can be made for Khushi or even Payash as siblings.

Shyam should be hovering over both Arnav and Khushi like the annoying fly you want to squat.

He should be trying to create more gap between Arnav and Khushi and targeting them individually. MIND GAMES...That is what we want especially with Shyam and Arnav.

Arnav needs to witness atleast one scene where Shyam and Payal interact and see Payal who is one of the nicest person, respectful, being absolutely rude to him...And go why is Payal like that about him.

Even the sisters convo...First misunderstanding that the sisters are bashing him and finally hearing the one sentence from either Payal or Khushi, If Anjali was not pregnant, they would have told what a creep her hubby is.

There needs to be more such scenes where Arnav gets confused and not the ones we see ki how much he loves her*yawn, WE KNOW THAT*, Grrr

I am incredibly grateful to Gul for creating Arnav and Zooming in on Barun to play that role, Now concentrate on the female lead will ya?

Bring the balance back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sunshine99

.Noboborsher preeti o suvecha to all IP Reduxians celebrating it.


Doods: Loved your character POV analysis for Anjali, Arnav and Khushi. The beauty of IPKKND is that the character traits are not openly portrayed to viewers like other series. Barun's fabulous portrayal of ASR's emotions leaves it open for the viewers to interpret what he is thinking & feeling at that point in time to shape his actions later. This is the surprise element which was so beautifully brought out when he convinced Khushi that he had beaten her at her own game.
I was left wondering on Thursday whether he would be really sick or faking it . The writers incorporated both in their unique way and I loved it. 👏

The reason for marriage and the 6 month clause had eluded me so far and I had pinned it down to a bad plot but Friday's episode got me thinking. I increasingly felt that though ASR initially after the terrace fiasco thought Khushi to be a conniving person hidding behind a mask of genuineness and caring persona but he also understood that khushi is an immature young girl who is gullible. He therefore saw her not as a home wrecker but a young girl who fell for the wrong person.This could only be the reason why he had the 6 month clause and the hurried marriage.He knows her well to understand that she values marriage in high esteem so she will uphold it and maintain distance from Shyam. He also knows that Shyam is unscrupulous and hence warns him time and again to stay away from her and not vice-versa.

He hopes that in the 6 month time frame he will be able to expose Shyam's true self to her and Anjali and maybe get back his unrequited love?

Can this be another reason (besides his buried love) that we have been increasingly shown his restrained and mellowed behavior towards khushi though she has been bugging him to no end.

Would love to have your thoughts and others on this. I might be wrong in thinking on this tangent but needed to get it out of my head😛.
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@ Bold:- Sunshine, I don't think he thinks Khushi is gullible. Naa, if that wud happen then his actions and interactions would contradict the current behavior. He still needs to clear out the confusion and then only he will be able to trust. This is his sister's life we are talking about and no tom, dick and harry's naa??? He will leave no stone unturned to clear this mess up. He still needs to study this equation. The 6 months thingy was a stunt from the channel to satisfy certain section of the viewers and an outlet for Khushi to have a reason to leave ASR if the story and TRP demands. That's it. The PH never intended for a 6 month clause.

Thanks Hun for liking my post. Hugzz 🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: supermom1

@Doods, Thanks for the Wonderful Redux post. Who would have thought the three main leads, Arnav, Khushi and Anjali as Dragonfly. Starting next week we will see Arnav trying to connect the dots to clear the confusion that has created in his heart and mind. Also with Khushi deciding to continue with her Swami act, lets see how it flows. After reading your post, I am confused on one thing, so will Khushi leave Arnav after she finds out why Arnav married her or when the truth is out and Anjali will ask Arnav to leave Khushi because she will think Khushi as culprit too. If the CV's are taking such long time to clear the MU do you think the separation track will also run for a longer period. From the beginning it has always been shown that whenever the truth about shyam is brought out in front of Anjali she will be hurt a lot or might even go insane or in coma something like that, which will take long time for her to recover. Now the question arises is when the whole family comes to know about Shyam and Khushi, will Arnav at that time take the blame on him to save khushi from humiliation or he will just keep quiet and let her walk. Also this track was to build up trust between Arnav and Khushi but right now it looks like one is gaining trust and the other is loosing out. How would all this effect Payal and Aakash, What about the Guptas? I will there will be tornado in the RM which will bring lot of hurt pain and breakups. There is going to be some collateral damage here. The whole truth about shyam will only come into light by Khushi's dad. Will have to wait as to when he will be healthy? Arnav will only know the full effect of his actions that has caused khushi and her family starting from the day at Fashion show CD release. I think that day he will realize what he did was not the destiny he wrote but was written by the Almighty and I am sure Khushi will not be with him. That day he will be at the temple crying and asking for forgiveness from Devi Maiya and for all that he has done to Khushi.


Thanks Hun. Yeah Dragonfly indeed.

Waise what will happen after the truth that I don't know. First let him connect the dots and then we will see... Hai naa bolo 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hyde2004

]Doods, I loved reading the REDUX today. Just the comparisions you make are wonderful. A dragonfly it is just amazing. I love the way you write. I also liked the way you said the three main leads are like dragonflies. Shyam is out of the picture. I liked the way you put Arnav's and Anjali's POV across. i was little bit worried when u were upset wih the show treatment since last week. i was sure that u wont do the analysis also .but i am suprised and felt very happy and relef after reading ur post. really i started seeing the show in a diffrent way after reading ur posts . i really admire the way u do the analysis. oneway i can say iam learning the new things in my life thrugh IPK thru u im getting knowledge also. see how much i am adicted to read ur posts. i mean it. i loved it.👏


Just a brilliant piece of writing that is a pleasure to read.👏👏👏
And a very Happy new year to u ,and sathya and all tamilians and bengalis. May ur future filled with the joy and prosporus and ur dreams come true.
Jaya






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Thanks Jaya. 🤗 the pleasure is all mine 😃
Edited by doodleberry - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: doodleberry


Anki Thanks...

Actually not Anjali but it will be ASR himself who will clear all her doubts. Anjali can only clear from a sister's POV but ASR will help her understand him. Don't worry we need the truth to come out first. 😃 then all will be ok.

doods That would be really nice.

but did u read ved raj article?? M nt convinced with his way of reasoning kushi's behavior.

At the end of it, kushi was also wrong in many circumstances.
See without any of her guilrt monologues, a little more love coming out unconsciously, without all these enjoying an ArHi scene is very tough .

These days i have been chanting this daily, im getting bored chanting this.
M not feeling her part of love and care much, yes i do not expect her to be good to Arnav and all , i know she has gone through alot, but even Arnav has gone through quiet alot thinking she is the one created havoc in his sister's life and also shattered his dreams and happiness, yet u can so well read his love and care for her even when their is so much hate around..

Even the taking care of Arnav part dint work me at all, im being honest here.
The bedroom scene could have been lot better in all terms, standing near wall and drowsing, and on to the face early morg act, sanding in kitchen and snoring..
I dint see that fear in her of him being harmed because of her actions.
Now with him declining that she was nt at fault, i shred to wonder this swami act.



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