Why Sai is not a doormat!!... Part 2 on page 4 - Page 9

Originally posted by: Moor278

This is why i have been repeatedly saying that don't look at SaiRat from KD perspective.

Sure it's a remake and we already know the story.

But they have changed many things.

The timeline of the track being the most important one. I feel this single most thing has put a new spin. Because they are at early stages of the relationship unlike Rono Emon and therefore the reactions are different.

You are constantly comparing V with Rono and Emon with Sai.

As i said earlier too, we the audience are privy to the information the characters are not. We know how V was with Shruti, Sai doesn't. Sai and we know who kidnapped Pulkit, V doesn't. Just few examples nothing relevant.

We know Shruti 2.0 is about to happen, Sai doesn't and neither V.

So if you look at it from their perspective, considering their frame of mind at that particular point, it doesn't look too illogical.

Sure, in retrospect it will haunt them but right now it doesn't.

And nobody denies that V needs to look back on his actions, really mend his ways and assess his life's priorities.

Bu to do that, he needs to realise it which I personally think he is getting there. I have an inkling that Pakhi's next kaand will really jolt him and he will realise it without Sai's intervention.

The Shruti track is over, confession and redemption hasn't happened. Which will happen.

Maybe we can revisit this conversation a few weeks down the line.

I have hardly compared all four characters.. Because all of them are distinctive individuals..

Though SaiRat is over for me.. Emon and Rono had another level of intensity.. That can't be brought here because the ML's incapability ..Sorry had to mention here because Neil's acting was so poor during shruti track with endless loopholes.. Hence I'm not able to connect with Sairar nor I'm able to understand Virat's pain due to divorce..

However I have not disconnected myself from Sai.. She is the only female characters that's easy to sync in

Originally posted by: Shaome

Rono was an a*hole virat is a jerk

Both are same no 🤣

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Virat saving Sai from landmine doesn't prove his love. He'd do that for Shruti Pakhi or any of his family members imo even a civilian for that matter. It was his duty plus Sai was in danger cus of him.

Originally posted by: Shaome

Emon three times thrown herself to rono..

1st time her second accident.. I didn't understand what made her confess or running behind him.. Only because she started missing his warmth..He was guilty but thoroughly wooden.. Over here Virat was shown softer then Rono..

Next after 1st Shruti track she did grow little spine.. But that made sense because they were having blissful marriage life before shruti entered.. Emon was 22/23 during Shruti track..

Next third shruti track... After a point she crawls back to him even after he actually manipulates her.. Even she has threatened to kill herself if rono doesn't accept her apologies..

Emon was plain wild ..There is transition period between from becoming to girl to an woman .. Sai has the upper hand unlike Emon.. Because that's the selling point in Ghum.. Look how she is controlling each and everyone.. Virat is insulting her but he is obeying her..

Doormat is Aswini.. Who lived at abusive life for the sake of a child..She is the real example of doormat..

Sai's appololgy doesn't make sense because he was the one who created this situation.. Over here in the mimo track both were almost on the verge of living like a man and wife.. Also she has seen how Virat was about to loose his life to save hers.. So whatever Sada told didn't registered in her mind.. She is just too guilt ridden.. She has seen his affords on mimo tracks.. But she has trapped herself badly but certainly not a doormat.. That's a strong expression for her character..

Imon needn't to control anyone in KD as everyone was under her wings. All were pro Imon. Even Ronno used to obey Imon. The second Shruti track was the dark spot on his character as well as the entire show.

The third one you mentioned Imon wouldn't do that. She said to get reaction out of Ronno which he does & slaps her for saying that. In that track Ronno was desperate to get back with her but Ronno wanted Imon to admit & hear it from her.

Its not that KD perspective makes us think that V is worse than he really is. Its a fact that he is learning nothing from his screwups. Even in mimo track he believed in pp. Didn't see her intentions. She was clearly taunting Sai in the car scene before the cringe of him lifting her in his arms, but when Sai shows him the truth he disregards it.

Sai deserves to know the full truth about everything in his life but he never fully told Sai about pp either. Only by bits n pieces, Sai figured it all out herself. He told her, he made a commitment, but didn't say to whom. Sai knew it was pp but V tried to deny it or brush it away. He denied his past with pp many times before accepting it. When he accepted it, he didn't give her details. Even in mimo track when he finally tells Sai he wants to reveal what happened, he doesn't tell Sai how pp essentially in explicit words asked him to elope with her and leave Sai. So he always escapes important conversations. Tomm when they reconcile will he tell Sai that Shruti confessed having feelings for him? I'm pretty confident that he's going to hide it. It's different he hides something about Shruti-Sada coz its irrelevant. But if he hides something pertaining to him, its not ok. We as audience are privy to Shruti-V and thats why it bothers me so much to see V being made all mahaan when he has faltered so so much. Way more than Sai. And thats why I understand that Sai is more forgiving and more guilty than I'd want her to be- she doesn't know that Sada was right about many things.

V didn't know about pullus kidnapping but he did know about harini being given away, fake letter being written- although blame fell on omi- did he do anything concrete- NO.

All Sai needs from him is honesty and transparency- which he repeatedly falters at.

He wanted Sai to understand his feelings without ever saying it out loud but he couldn't understand her feelings. So he constantly has expectations of things from Sai which he himself is incapable of providing. Whether that be blind trust, sabr, understanding unsaid emotions. He realized his feelings 1 year before her but i find his "love" to be one of "conditons apply".

Originally posted by: Moor278

This is why i have been repeatedly saying that don't look at SaiRat from KD perspective.

Sure it's a remake and we already know the story.

But they have changed many things.

The timeline of the track being the most important one. I feel this single most thing has put a new spin. Because they are at early stages of the relationship unlike Rono Emon and therefore the reactions are different.

You are constantly comparing V with Rono and Emon with Sai.

As i said earlier too, we the audience are privy to the information the characters are not. We know how V was with Shruti, Sai doesn't. Sai and we know who kidnapped Pulkit, V doesn't. Just few examples nothing relevant.

We know Shruti 2.0 is about to happen, Sai doesn't and neither V.

So if you look at it from their perspective, considering their frame of mind at that particular point, it doesn't look too illogical.

Sure, in retrospect it will haunt them but right now it doesn't.

And nobody denies that V needs to look back on his actions, really mend his ways and assess his life's priorities.

Bu to do that, he needs to realise it which I personally think he is getting there. I have an inkling that Pakhi's next kaand will really jolt him and he will realise it without Sai's intervention.

The Shruti track is over, confession and redemption hasn't happened. Which will happen.

Maybe we can revisit this conversation a few weeks down the line.

Their character sketch might be different but it's pretty much same copy paste. The entire Shruti track was copy pasted the dialogues scenes from scenes lifted (excluding their creativity for Virat/Shruti touchy scenes). They make them do the same things so comparisons are inevitable. We'll stop seeing from lens of KD only if & when they write new storyline and completely deviate from KD which is never gonna happen so yea.

Every good deviation from KD ends up backfiring sadly because they go back to mindless copy paste after the deviation. So they make the cringe, the lows worse than KD even though Sai and V are actually the better versions of Imon and Rono.

They deviated to show mimo track but instead of confession which was the next logical thing, they gave this kaand. So they ruined their own setup. Now they are again setting up for confession instead of courtroom drama which on paper is a good deviation. I didn't want public mudslinging and was happy they deviated but looking at their track record, i know they will again ruin it.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Imon needn't to control anyone in KD as everyone was under her wings. All were pro Imon. Even Ronno used to obey Imon. The second Shruti track was the dark spot on his character as well as the entire show.

The third one you mentioned Imon wouldn't do that. She said to get reaction out of Ronno which he does & slaps her for saying that. In that track Ronno was desperate to get back with her but Ronno wanted Imon to admit & hear it from her.

Dude I watched KD.. And I'm Bengali..

I clearly understood her character arc.. Rono literally manipulated her in third time..

Emon is nothing like Sai...

Sai is toned down in a positive way..

Emon was plain badtameez.. Over here they changed all the supportive characters without any proper justification but that doesn't Sai lacked ability to control them.. Even in adverse situation she is controlling each and everyone giving befitting replies.. Rono certainly had the upper hand.. He was under control only in bed.. The kind of things he said to to emon charatrahin even after this emon goes back to him.. And goes on saying you are mine because my seed is inside you.. Yuck

*edited by DT*

both Sai and Emon are distinctive personalities .I understand both Emon and Sai and also how both characters behaved according to circumstances ..i liked many things about Emon and over here I also dislike many things about Sai.. Still I understand both characters well..

For me the most disappointed thing from Sai is she supported anti-nationalism by supporting virat!

Sai is shown as a girl from naxalitic area like Gadchiroli and she fought against wrong things happening. Naxalite attack is happening there and her father was a honest police officer. She will be definately aware of naxalite attack!!! Still she whitewashed virat's traitorious act and even called him aashirvadi and imandaari🤢

The girl also indirectly became a deshdrohi by supporting this biggest crime!!!

How so?

The end result of the mission as explained by the DIG is that Sada is arrested and Shruti is rehabilitated. They needed to keep her safe. Which V did. Of course nothing more was said...

But this is their justification. Sorry but I don't see Sai at fault here.

Also, correct me if I am wrong but she knows Shruti as Sadas wife... and not a gang member.

Just because she is criminals wife, doesn't make her a criminal. So yeah, Sai still doesn't know all the facts... but from whatever she knows, Sai is not the one supporting a naxalite.

Again, not saying what V did is right. but based on the facts with Sai, she has not supported a naxalite.

And if you are talking about her operation, then at that time, she does it because of the Hippocratic oath all doctors take. Which she reminds Pulkit off. That's the purity of her heart.