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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

Parineeti didn't do movies for nearly 2-3 years, how is that anyone's fault?? If you lose visibilities, how is that anyone else's fault?? Why will anyone cast an actress who never reached the top and than took a long break. She got roles with enough material show her potential like Ishqzaade, Sudh Desi Romance and HTP. You're saying as if was only doing Kill Dill and Dawat-E-Ishq type roles.

Also comparison with Ranbir Kapoor is silly, he took risk with roles like Wake Up Sid and Rocket Singh at very start of his career, when he could have easily gone the rom com and comedy way to success. He found his niche himself, which obviously later got repeated to access. Ranbir isn't your regular type of growth in industry. He took risky projects, which were not massy enough and made them work, yes they failed at box office at times or critically the other, but he isn't someone who got cushion roles as you're saying. Parineeti didn't took that risk, when she rejected something like Piku. Also she bragged about rejecting movies opposite Khans when she had started, so yeah she did get roles which could have given her both popularity and strong roles. And it is not like she wasn't getting roles. Ranbir comparison seriously makes no sense.


See @Melissa 's post: Adi seems to be the main factor.. his cjhoice..uhmm.. 'advice'.
Also, when you have a few flops after a successful start you DO get disoriented. THAT is the time when you need professionals and advisors to support you with advice in film choices/roles.. to get you good stuff..
Comparison with RK was done because, unlike her, he DID get advice and good roles. I just cannot imagine RK not getting a team of advisors etc after (and even before) Sawaaryia. Cmon, a Kapoor scion not getting support? His choices were probably a 'think -tank' type choices..with a lot of people weighing in. Not his own.. The Kapoors wanted him to succeed.. let's not take that narrative he did it all alone...
Parineeti- on the other hand, not only didn't have the 'think-tank' to advise and find these 'star-driven' roles the Kappor guy got, but also had to take BAD advice from Ady.. who at the time believed himself some Guru of sorts.. considering how many new stars he launched- and subsequently pretty much 'ruined' with his 'advice'.(whilst Adi might have been well intended, he was unprofessional with it).
Edited by MoonOrchid - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

Parineeti didn't do movies for nearly 2-3 years, how is that anyone's fault?? If you lose visibilities, how is that anyone else's fault?? Why will anyone cast an actress who never reached the top and than took a long break. She got roles with enough material show her potential like Ishqzaade, Sudh Desi Romance and HTP. You're saying as if was only doing Kill Dill and Dawat-E-Ishq type roles.

Also comparison with Ranbir Kapoor is silly, he took risk with roles like Wake Up Sid and Rocket Singh at very start of his career, when he could have easily gone the rom com and comedy way to success. He found his niche himself, which obviously later got repeated to access. Ranbir isn't your regular type of growth in industry. He took risky projects, which were not massy enough and made them work, yes they failed at box office at times or critically the other, but he isn't someone who got cushion roles as you're saying. Parineeti didn't took that risk, when she rejected something like Piku. Also she bragged about rejecting movies opposite Khans when she had started, so yeah she did get roles which could have given her both popularity and strong roles. And it is not like she wasn't getting roles. Ranbir comparison seriously makes no sense.


How can parineeti reach the top in 4 years? ridiculous. 😆 that statement makes no sense. do you know how long it took priyanka to get good work and be classified as an actress? it took deepika forever to be on top. parineeti is not a star kid, yes she has industry connections..but she is not backed up as strongly as ppl think. alia is at the top after 6-7 years of high calibre opportunties and constant working and she is backed up.

you cannot compare parineeti, kriti, bhumi whoever etc to the level alia has attained for example, they dont have and will never have the same support or backing.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26



<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Don't wanna butt in😆... but Just wanted to point out that AFAIK she rejected Piku because she was stuck with the 3 film contract from YRF. She says she regrets not being able to star in Piku.</font>



Sushant and Shraddha took risk and walked out.
So it is easy to blame.
Also it is not like others have not been allowed to do outside movies from YRF.
It is not like Parineeti was so special, that Aditya Chopra didn't want to share her talent with anyone else.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader



Sushant and Shraddha took risk and walked out.
So it is easy to blame.
Also it is not like others have not been allowed to do outside movies from YRF.
It is not like Parineeti was so special, that Aditya Chopra didn't want to share her talent with anyone else.


Lol I don't care 😆. This is not me saying. I am just saying what I read of what Pari said her reasons for rejecting Piku 😉.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#65

YRF talents

Ayushman had a great year 2018
Bhumi has releases every year.
RS had Padma & Simmba

Lekin nai.. yrf ke naam pe target kuch aur hai. This is one of those thread where everything that is wrong with BW -- needs to blamed on Jo & Aloo. 😆


People are set in their mind & no amount of facts or arguments gonna change it. Chaddo.



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Posted: 6 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid



See @Melissa 's post: Adi seems to be the main factor.. his cjhoice..uhmm.. 'advice'.
Also, when you have a few flops after a successful start you DO get disoriented. THAT is the time when you need professionals and advisors to support you with advice in film choices/roles.. to get you good stuff..
Comparison with RK was done because, unlike her, he DID get advice and good roles. I just cannot imagine RK not getting a team of advisors etc after (and even before) Sawaaryia. Cmon, a Kapoor scion not getting support? His choices were probably a 'think -tank' type choices..with a lot of people weighing in. Not his own.. The Kapoors wanted him to succeed.. let's not take that narrative he did it all alone...
Parineeti- on the other hand, not only didn't have the 'think-tank' to advise and find these 'star-driven' roles the Kappor guy got, but also had to take BAD advice from Ady.. who at the time believed himself some Guru of sorts.. considering how many new stars he launched- and subsequently pretty much 'ruined' with his 'advice'.(whilst Adi might have been well intended, he was unprofessional with it).



firstly, it is all upto Parineeti to take the risk or not.
Adi can advise her, but it is upto her to take it or not.
If Sushant, Shraddha, Bhumi and Ranveer can do what they want, why cant Parineeti.



Also read my post again regarding Ranbir. I never said he had no support, I said despite all support he took roles and movies which were risky and not mainstream, while balancing them with masala cinema like BAC, APKGK.
So comparison with someone who worked hard, with someone who didn't is silly.
And if everyone needs a advisor like Kjo is to Alia, than what is the use of calling others different, if the end goal of everyone is to be like Alia.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoonOrchid


See @Melissa 's post: Adi seems to be the main factor.. his cjhoice..uhmm.. 'advice'.
Also, when you have a few flops after a successful start you DO get disoriented. THAT is the time when you need professionals and advisors to support you with advice in film choices/roles.. to get you good stuff..
Comparison with RK was done because, unlike her, he DID get advice and good roles. I just cannot imagine RK not getting a team of advisors etc after (and even before) Sawaaryia. Cmon, a Kapoor scion not getting support? His choices were probably a 'think -tank' type choices..with a lot of people weighing in. Not his own.. The Kapoors wanted him to succeed.. let's not take that narrative he did it all alone...
Parineeti- on the other hand, not only didn't have the 'think-tank' to advise and find these 'star-driven' roles the Kappor guy got, but also had to take BAD advice from Ady.. who at the time believed himself some Guru of sorts.. considering how many new stars he launched- and subsequently pretty much 'ruined' with his 'advice'.(whilst Adi might have been well intended, he was unprofessional with it).


Rk does not even take his own father's advice..his father has gone on record that his son does not listen to him. Every talent managemant firm from Kwan, Matrix, YRF have managers and what not in charge of their talents. But it is ultimately the star who chooses the script. Ranveer takes Adi's advice even Anushka does too. they both have said this numerous times.

pari's downfall is her own. Adi gives weight loss plastic surgery advice to every talent. it is very common adv ice in bw. Even DP said that at the begining of her career someone told her to get a boobjob but she gave no heed to that advice.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


YRF talents

Ayushman had a great year 2018
Bhumi has releases every year.
RS had Padma & Simmba

Lekin nai.. yrf ke naam pe target kuch aur hai. This is one of those thread where everything that is wrong with BW -- needs to blamed on Jo & Aloo. 😆


People are set in their mind & no amount of facts or arguments gonna change it. Chaddo.



Ayushman is 35 or such and has been choosing his own movies- he says so.
Bhumi was in casting and as such she also chooses her movies with a better eye than your every day star, because that was her job.
RS has started , after BBB with such bad movies that he is lucky he went Lootera and then SLB. YRF was going to drag him to nothing. Only when he started listening to others advising him he started going into good movies. He got backjto YRF and did Befikre..LOL.

Look , I am not even a huge Pari fan but I see her as someone with great talent that got shafted through lack of GOOD advice and good roles..nurturing/advice/promotion in the right direction.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349



How can parineeti reach the top in 4 years? ridiculous.😆that statement makes no sense. do you know how long it took priyanka to get good work and be classified as an actress? it took deepika forever to be on top. parineeti is not a star kid, yes she has industry connections..but she is not backed up as strongly as ppl think.alia is at the top after 6-7 years of high calibre opportunties and constant working and she is backed up.

you cannot compare parineeti, kriti, bhumi whoever etc to the level alia has attained for example, they dont have and will never have the same support or backing.




reading comprehension is an important tool.
The fact you didn't even what my line meant about being a top actress makes your whole point void.
I didn't said she should have been top in four years.
I said why would anyone take an actress who took a long break, also wasn't a top actress meaning, that no one who is not a successful star is taken immediately in big roles after taking a big break.
My point was never about her not being able to reach top in four years, but well people don't read well nowadays and jump on conclusions reading just the outline.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thug-Leader



firstly, it is all upto Parineeti to take the risk or not.
Adi can advise her, but it is upto her to take it or not.
If Sushant, Shraddha, Bhumi and Ranveer can do what they want, why cant Parineeti.



Also read my post again regarding Ranbir. I never said he had no support, I said despite all support he took roles and movies which were risky and not mainstream, while balancing them with masala cinema like BAC, APKGK.
So comparison with someone who worked hard, with someone who didn't is silly.
And if everyone needs a advisor like Kjo is to Alia, than what is the use of calling others different, if the end goal of everyone is to be like Alia.

Yes, it is up to her.
She made a mistake or two, got unsure on her feet.
THAT is when she needed right support/backing/advice.
I am sure SSR, Ranveer also 'xcursed silently' YRF and movie choices such as Detective BB/Raabta or Befikre/Kill Dill. (I am saying their flops had a weird script, weird promotions, weird way of going abt it.. they are lucky to survive that..Bhumi was in casting so she's trying to make smart choices as that WAS HER JOB- CASTING).
RE: RK- all I am saing that if he wasn't Kapoor and he was like Parineeti-outsider AND under YRF guidance.. everyone would look at him like they look at Pari by now: talented but meh... Their talent is pretty much at same level. One got good push and support, other didn't. RK's choices were never his, cmon!!- he has team of advisors..and still fails a lot , commercially.
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