YRF does not take care of their talent

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Posted: 6 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

Look , I am not even a huge Pari fan but I see her as someone with great talent that got shafted through lack of GOOD advice and good roles..nurturing/advice/promotion in the right direction.

Why rely on someone's advice? Do we have mentor/adviser in our daily life?

Don't we all make mistakes n get up.. go ahead. Why is the need to expect baby treatment from others? I don't agree with it at all.

I don't get it. She made mistakes. Move on now. Try to grab projects n work hard at it. Not something like Namaste England & Golmaal 4. She acted so low n dull. Now that's on her.

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Melissaa

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Posted: 6 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid
But @melissa- all you are saying then it's that Adi gave them bad advice.. be it wait.. do weight loss.. or whatever.
And that was my point: the 'Talent' division in YRF is mishandled- by Adi and the other employees. He needs someone with good script sense and to let casting directors suggest him actors actresses.
The girls saying they want to do masala movies? You really think that's truth? I think they say to explain the spate of flowerpot roles..of unsubstabtial roles.. To excuse them not getting good work..

You do know that Ranveer still seek Adi's advice Even Anu said she told Adi she was staring her own PH and he supported her. Anu, Bhumi, Ranv eer, Ayushmann despite bein YRF talents are making great choices yet you still choose to blame Adi and YRF talent management for the crappy roles Pari chose to do. Arjun maybe unsuccessful but even he makes good film choices. Adi and YRF can give advice only it is up to the actor what movies they want to do. YRF is making crap movies only.

That is their downfall.

@bold: Mass, masala, commercial movies are what hindi cinema is made of. if one wants to be a bollywood mainstream hero or heroine that is what one go for. the urban, expreimental movies are not norm or part of mainstream BW before Dil Chahata Hain. in the old days Gully Boy, Piku, Barfi, Fan, etc.. will be called as parallel, art house cinema and big commercial stars will never do such a movie. Sonakshi was following the typical hindi film heroine's path by doing flower pot roles in mass, masala movies. In an interview she did with Faridoon for the promotion of her movie with Diljeet (forgot the name of the movie) she said she rejected Kareena's role in Udta Punjab. If someone gave an interview saying that theu will only do mass masala movies I highly doubt any director producer will approach them with non-masala movies.

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MoonOrchid

@MoonOrchid

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Posted: 6 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: Melissaa

Rk does not even take his own father's advice..his father has gone on record that his son does not listen to him. Every talent managemant firm from Kwan, Matrix, YRF have managers and what not in charge of their talents. But it is ultimately the star who chooses the script. Ranveer takes Adi's advice even Anushka does too. they both have said this numerous times.

pari's downfall is her own. Adi gives weight loss plastic surgery advice to every talent. it is very common adv ice in bw. Even DP said that at the begining of her career someone told her to get a boobjob but she gave no heed to that advice.

RK doesn't take his father's advice because he has a team of professionals reading through scripts and trying to 'intercept' any good roles for their 'master' - how do you think he got some roles? Admittedly.. with Bombay Velvet they've ..bombed- as the role didn't suit him at all.

Like Alia and KJo, RK's team tries to fit him in any role they think will bring him success, irrelevant if RK is fit for the role or not. And that's when he bombs..

RK owns newspapers and football teams, has been super rich from before even starting in BW.. but he doesn't have advisors, 'script chasers' annd reps going through availabvle scripts? Right.. so he heard about movies like BV and others through just.., gifted gossiping skills??

Sorry but no. Don't buy it.

RS SAYS he takes Adi's advice- it's years since he stopped. ONCE yes, he did go back to Adi -and ..Befikre happened.

Since then, NO ONE really listens to Adi- from the established stars ( I am making comparisons with what I know goes in inside the HW industry when I say this).

Pari should have tried her hand in another industry - if her English is good. Nothing to lose.. maybe loads to gain.

Go somewhere else try her luck... see if her talent can break her through in the West.

She IS talented. All she needs is the RIGHT advice. ..and experience in choosing good scripts.. and that experience comes with years of reading scripts and choosing with..advisors.. Then she'll be confident enough on what roles she suits and can do justice..

Confidence / self-belief and a good role can do wonders.

Edited by MoonOrchid - 6 years ago

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Male-Chauvinist-Pig

@Ur-Miserable

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Posted: 6 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

Yes, it is up to her.
She made a mistake or two, got unsure on her feet.
THAT is when she needed right support/backing/advice.
I am sure SSR, Ranveer also 'xcursed silently' YRF and movie choices such as detective BB or Befikre/Kill Dill. (I am saying their flops had a weird script, weird promotions, weird way of going abt it.. they are lucky to survive that..Bhumi was in casting so she's trying to make smart choices as that WAS HER JOB- CASTING).
RE: RK- all I am saing that if he wasn't Kapoor and he was like parineeti, under YRF guidance.. everyone would look at him like they look at Pari. They talent is pretty much same. One got good push and support, other didn't. RK's choices were never his- he has team of advisors..and still fails a lot , commercially.

huh again, when all the other people from the same group have gone their own path and gotten success in their own right despite the obvious Aditya Chopra advise, why Parineeti needs special care??

Ranbir as already stated by someone, is his own king. Everyone in the industry gets advises, it is upto them to take it or not. Also how the heck is Ranbir movie choices not his but the so called advisors.
Blaming others for Parineeti's failure is silly.

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566912

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Posted: 6 years ago

#75

So now it's other people's duty to give Pari advice. 👏

If they don't, they will be guilty charged for it. 😆😆

Maha bokwas argument ever to exist.

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zehreeli.kheer

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Posted: 6 years ago

#76

If YRF had "taken" care of their talent, they would have been blamed for using their clout to get movies for their talent and blocking talents from other production houses😆

On a serious note, Pari's failure is her own doing.. No amount of good advises can give you success unless you use your brains.. Leaving Piku to work with someone you had a crush on shows how big of an idiot she is.. So ya.. She cannot blame anyone but herself

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566912

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Posted: 6 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer
If YRF had "taken" care of their talent, they would have been blamed for using their clout to get movies for their talent and blocking talents from other production houses😆

On a serious note, Pari's failure is her own doing.. No amount of good advises can give you success unless you use your brains.. Leaving Piku to work with someone you had a crush on shows how big of an idiot she is.. So ya.. She cannot blame anyone but herself

Word of Advice for you -- Don't even go thru these pages to save yourself from boiling up.

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zehreeli.kheer

@zehreeli.kheer

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Posted: 6 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Word of Advice for you -- Don't even go thru these pages to save yourself from boiling up.

Noted😆

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MoonOrchid

@MoonOrchid

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Posted: 6 years ago

#79

Well, you can all dissect this further. I need to go.

All I am saying,. the talents that were nurtured fare better than those not nurtured- team of advisors.. of GOOD advisors.. DO matter.

Yeah.. most starsdon;t JUST choose a movie based on script and 'feeling'. They are usually ... guided towards certain scripts by team of .. scouts.

That's how things go.

Pari 's fault is not having such scouts/advisors and taking them roles she did after her debut.

Bash her all you want for her choices- it;s not like I care lol😆

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1163026

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Posted: 6 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

Yes, it is up to her.
She made a mistake or two, got unsure on her feet.
THAT is when she needed right support/backing/advice.
I am sure SSR, Ranveer also 'xcursed silently' YRF and movie choices such as Detective BB/Raabta or Befikre/Kill Dill. (I am saying their flops had a weird script, weird promotions, weird way of going abt it.. they are lucky to survive that..Bhumi was in casting so she's trying to make smart choices as that WAS HER JOB- CASTING).
RE: RK- all I am saing that if he wasn't Kapoor and he was like Parineeti-outsider AND under YRF guidance.. everyone would look at him like they look at Pari by now: talented but meh... Their talent is pretty much at same level. One got good push and support, other didn't. RK's choices were never his, cmon!!- he has team of advisors..and still fails a lot , commercially.

😆😆

If RK has a bunch/team of advisers then every freaking actor in Bollywood has one... He hasn't come from some other planet. Oh and don't start with nepo debate cos, if that was the criteria Uday Chopra would be a huge star. Some of the stuff u get to read here is ludicrous.