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Posted: 6 years ago
#81

You took my golden advice, you are like RK. 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader



reading comprehension is an important tool.
The fact you didn't even what my line meant about being a top actress makes your whole point void.
I didn't said she should have been top in four years.
I said why would anyone take an actress who took a long break, also wasn't a top actress meaning, that no one who is not a successful star is taken immediately in big roles after taking a big break.
My point was never about her not being able to reach top in four years, but well people don't read well nowadays and jump on conclusions reading just the outline.


"will anyone cast an actress who never reached the top..."

you are implying that she should have reached the top to me. it came across like that so im not sure if you have the right or the nerve to say that i need reading comprehension tools when in the real world i am totally happy and fine😆
You should realize that your statement can be interpreted in many ways. I am not directly talking to you in person.
anyhow..
and I agree with you that it was hard b/c she never reached the top, so when she came back. but I dont think it is right for people who give her hard time b.c of her mistakes since she is not a privileged actress and does not have good mentorships either (whole point of this thread). and the comparisons with alia..came in. if alia made the same mistakes, she would be supported with good film offers and set backs would not impact her.
so I am not defending her mistakes..but I am saying its unfair to ignore her as an actress with potential which I feel the industry did especially after flopping and this is reflected by her film offers. at the end of the day, how do you know what she is being offered? her choices may have been her main film offers. who knows. and for her to choose films like golmaal..she needs to because that is a big budget film, and is less risky. most actresses who start out be it deepika or priyanka start with big films with big heros..b/c box office success and films that attracts the masses does lead to more popularity and opportunities. kriti is doing housefull 4 for the same reasons, not b/c she wants to be glameorous😆 namaste england...brand name. she did the film b/c she thought it would appeal to the masses-wrong choice on her part but there is a reason actresses with less support choose these films initially.
so it is unfair to target her for choosing films like that imo when she is trying to work her way up and create a name for herself like any other actress who is in a competitive atmosphere with uneuqal opportunities.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#83


Industry ignored Abhishek Bachhan, the Son of Amitabh Bachhan, after his flops. Toh fir Parineeti kis khet ki mooli hai.

Flops ke baad to SRK bhi ignore ho raha hai. It's norm of the life.


p.s. -- God, I actually like Pari. Yaha mein use hi lapet rahi hoon. Some Alia fixated people are so over doing it.
Edited by NimbuMirchi - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

Well, you can all dissect this further. I need to go.

All I am saying,. the talents that were nurtured fare better than those not nurtured- team of advisors.. of GOOD advisors.. DO matter.
Yeah.. most starsdon;t JUST choose a movie based on script and 'feeling'. They are usually ... guided towards certain scripts by team of .. scouts.

That's how things go.

Pari 's fault is not having such scouts/advisors and taking them roles she did after her debut.

Bash her all you want for her choices- it;s not like I care lol😆



are you seriously telling me that Parineeti not getting good roles is apparently not up to her, but her advisors.

If you think people like Ranbir, Bhumi and Ayushmann taking risky roles like (Vicky Donor, DLKH, SMS, WKS, RS, Barfi, TEPK, Badhai Ho, BV, JJ and so on) was all up to the so called advisors, than you're probably not familiar with how people advise in BW.
No one advises a young actor to take project like those, they will rather advise them to take conventional projects.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


You took my golden advice, you are like RK. 😆

Yes.. And now I am on the road to success because of you😆 Cuz you gave me advice.. What I did is irrelevant😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

He doesn't take his father's advice because he hasa team of professionals reading through scripts and trying to 'intercept' any good roles for their 'master' - how do you think he got some roles? Admittedly.. with Bombay Velvet they ..bombed- as it didn';t suit him
Like Alia and KJo, RK's team tried to fit him in any role they think will bring him success, irrelevant if RK is fit for the role.

RK owns newspapers and fiootball teams, has been super rich from before even starting in BW.. but he doesn't have advisors, 'script chasers' annd reps going through availabvle svcripts? Right.. so he heard abopujt movies like BV .. thought... just gifted gossiping skills??
Sorry but no. Don;t buy it.

RS SAYS he takes Adi's advice- it's years since he stopped. ONCE he did go back to Adi and ..Befikre happened.
Since then, NO ONE really listens to Adi- from the established stars ( I am making comparisons with what i know goes in inside the HW industry when I say this).

Pari should have tried her hand in another industry - if her English is good. Nothing to lose.. maybe gain.
Go somewhere else try her luck see if her talent can break her through in the West.
She IS talented. All she needs is the RIGHT advice. ..and experience in choosinjg good scripts.. and that experience comes with yeaers of reading scripts and choposing with..advisors..

Read my comments properly. I already said YRF makes crappy movies so if their talents do one of ther movies they get burnt. ranveer was going on about how some people from the imdustry told him not to do Khilji's role at that point of his career (most likely YRF and Adi) but he chose to take a risk. so clearly no one is forced by YRF to do only YRF movies or only act in accordance t o their advice. they chose scripts and gave advice on.every aspect from movies to endorsement. it is only in this year (his India Today interview) that he admitted that he still take advice and talk movie roles with Adi. Also he said that he from now on he is the one in charge of all the scripts he chooses implying that before it was his team that do that for him. his team helped him with 83, BM, RL, DDD.. those interviiews are on his fcs and I think some got posted here as well. ranveer had a 3 film contract with YRF so BBB, LVRB and Gunday were part of the contract. he did KillDil for his friend Shaad Ali and for the chance of working with his fave actor Govinda. Since he debuted he always said that his dream director is Adi Chopra so he did Befikre just to work with his mentor.

I don't know what your obsession with RK is but let me tell you, people in bw were making fun of RK's choices back then because they were not typical mainstream movies. his father said people used to tell him his son is going to be the next Amol Palekar, (an actor more known for arty parllel cinema) Because he chose to do these non-mainstream non commercial movies. Rk is now going all commercial mass bexause his experiments flopped and he learnt his lesson.
Edited by Melissaa - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Yes.. And now I am on the road to success because of you😆 Cuz you gave me advice.. What I did is irrelevant😆


I should get half of your posts added to my account & move up my IF rank ladder. Contract.

Next advice is -- Change your display pic. Kheer mein Kajoo ki jagah Badam daalo. 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader



are you seriously telling me that Parineeti not getting good roles is apparently not up to her, but her advisors.

If you think people like Ranbir, Bhumi and Ayushmann taking risky roles like (Vicky Donor, DLKH, SMS, WKS, RS, Barfi, TEPK, Badhai Ho, BV, JJ and so on) was all up to the so called advisors, than you're probably not familiar with how people advise in BW.
No one advises a young actor to take project like those, they will rather advise them to take conventional projects.


you should know that sonam kapoors bro was offered andahdhun first, and then it was offered to ayushmann. that film has done wonders for him.

its not about parineeti or anyone else not wanting to do good roles, but these opportunties dont come first serve to them necessarily. so it is not up to them!
you have to provide these actors with potential opportunities for them to get good films!
Parineeti is doing a biopic only after shraddha could not do it. shraddha may look like saina but performance wise, parineeti has a higher probability of being able to perform better.

bollywood producers and filmmakes look at the popularity and success rate of an actress/actor before talent which is not a good thing


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349



"will anyone cast an actress who never reached the top..."

you are implying that she should have reached the top to me. it came across like that so im not sure if you have the right or the nerve to say that i need reading comprehension tools when in the real world i am totally happy and fine😆
You should realize that your statement can be interpreted in many ways. I am not directly talking to you in person.
anyhow..
and I agree with you that it was hard b/c she never reached the top, so when she came back. but I dont think it is right for people who give her hard time b.c of her mistakes since she is not a privileged actress and does not have good mentorships either (whole point of this thread). and the comparisons with alia..came in. if alia made the same mistakes, she would be supported with good film offers and set backs would not impact her.
so I am not defending her mistakes..but I am saying its unfair to ignore her as an actress with potential which I feel the industry did especially after flopping and this is reflected by her film offers. at the end of the day, how do you know what she is being offered? her choices may have been her main film offers. who knows. and for her to choose films like golmaal..she needs to because that is a big budget film, and is less risky. most actresses who start out be it deepika or priyanka start with big films with big heros..b/c box office success and films that attracts the masses does lead to more popularity and opportunities. kriti is doing housefull 4 for the same reasons, not b/c she wants to be glameorous😆namaste england...brand name. she did the film b/c she thought it would appeal to the masses-wrong choice on her part but there is a reason actresses with less support choose these films initially.
so it is unfair to target her for choosing films like that imo when she is trying to work her way up and create a name for herself like any other actress who is in a competitive atmosphere with uneuqal opportunities.



again you just read the outline, full sentence was
''Why will anyone cast an actress who never reached the top and than took a long break.''
Implying that anyone who isn't a top star, will not get great roles the day they decide to return from their long break.


Parineeti still gets roles, so it is not like she is over, that you're saying as if industry boycott her.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: sania349



you should know that sonam kapoors bro was offered andahdhun first, and then it was offered to ayushmann. that film has done wonders for him.

its not about parineeti or anyone else not wanting to do good roles, but these opportunties dont come first serve to them necessarily. so it is not up to them!
you have to provide these actors with potential opportunities for them to get good films!
Parineeti is doing a biopic only after shraddha could not do it. shraddha may look like saina but performance wise, parineeti has a higher probability of being able to perform better.

bollywood producers and filmmakes look at the popularity and success rate of an actress/actor before talent which is not a good thing




movie is a business, popularity and success rate is as important as talent.
And when you have someone who is both talented and popular they will be chosen over someone not so popular.




As for your earlier paragraph, it is not about who the got script first, it is about who took the risk to do it.
How many actors will risk playing a sperm donor, temporarily impotent and having his mom pregnant at middle age.
Not every successful movie is consider hit at first read, not every flop is consider flop at the first read.

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