Could Anushka or Sonam have done Mastani better than Deepika?! - Page 5

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lilac_N_Maple

Why are we talking about seetis and taalis and stardom when it's about acting? Bhai too get a lot of seetis iska matlab yeh to nehi ke Bhai ko Mastani bana de. 😆 DP managed to get the seetis and taalis while RS and PC acquired all the awards and appreciation 😆


Since I have spoke about seeti talis I think your comment is addressed towards me. Since when acting in India is only about acting? If that was the case then Sonam could never be an heroine in the first place forget about Mastani🤪. And we would need an Smita Patil or Shabana Azmi to portray every iconic character ! I have never said RS and PC were bad, they were better than Deepika in their individual roles but its a fact Deewani Mastani got iconic status..Deal with it !

And the choice is very narrow here. Anushka and Sonam not Ash or Madhuri..I feel Anu excels only one type of character and Mastani is certainly out of her reach because it required a lot of action sequence + screen presence and a gorgeous beautiful face and I think DP is ahead of her in all these departments...




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes.. Why not.. Anushka n sonam can do it perfectly.. Even aishwarya.. Anyways im not a fan of mastaani... My heart goes to kashibhai any day.. I hate slb for glorifying cheating in the name of love and portrayed mastani as the victim n bajirao as her eternal love neglecting the betrayal they caused kashi n the pain of a betrayed wife.. and deepika lacked the aura as mastani so overall i hated that movie..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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y both actress fans want their idols play weak roles on screen
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@JaaniDushman - Neither Sonam nor Anushka is PC...I feel PC is inconsistent sometimes but when she is in the form she can be extremely versatile. Its not sonam or Anushka or even Deepika's cup of tea to portray a Jhilmil and a Kashibai or a Sonia and excel in all of them..So you cant really compare a limited actress like Sonam or a less screen presence wala star to portray a larger than life character

Also I am not giving credit only to Deepika for Deewani Mastani. A film is a team work and director is the captain of the ship and the star is the face of his vision. So the biggest chunk of credit is obviously reserved for the director. In the same way he has the same contribution to RS and PC's acting as well. But here we are discussing the star not the directors so obviously Deepika will get the credit
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Posted: 8 years ago
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anushka a great actress but she doesn't have that presence that deepika have..
and why sonam??no acting skill nothing...
deepika was good there
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermione82


Since I have spoke about seeti talis I think your comment is addressed towards me. Since when acting in India is only about acting? If that was the case then Sonam could never be an heroine in the first place forget about Mastani🤪. And we would need an Smita Patil or Shabana Azmi to portray every iconic character ! I have never said RS and PC were bad, they were better than Deepika in their individual roles but its a fact Deewani Mastani got iconic status..Deal with it !

And the choice is very narrow here. Anushka and Sonam not Ash or Madhuri..I feel Anu excels only one type of character and Mastani is certainly out of her reach because it required a lot of action sequence + screen presence and a gorgeous beautiful face and I think DP is ahead of her in all these departments...






Again why are you bringing stardom and other stuff? I don't care what India wants. DP was the bigger star than the other 2 then and even now. I was strictly talking about acting. A good act >>>> than pretty face, screen presence yada yada. It's what makes a character a iconic. DP's deewani Mastani is NOT equal to BM. At the end of the day it's PC and RS who're remembered for their good performances in BM while DP only has a Deewani Mastani to boast about.
And TBH from when Mastani became iconic? I have no idea 😆 From what I remember , members and critrics expressed their dispaoointment in her performance. I am yet to finish the movie but from whatever I saw, she actually had a blank expression all through out to show how enchanted she was by Bajirao, not to mention the dialogue delivery.


A review from KoiMoi and they are usually kind to all movies.

Deepika Padukone according to me performs the weakest amongst the three stars. Even though she plays the lead, there are a lot of flaws in her act. Sure she looks beautiful but completely lacks the grace while performing on numbers such as Mohe Rang Do Laal. Her body language is too modern to embrace the charm of Mastani. In one of the scenes, her dialogue delivery is so weak that she sounds exactly like one of her dialogues from Tamasha.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermione82

<font size="2">@JaaniDushman - Neither Sonam nor Anushka is PC...<font color="#999900">I feel PC is inconsistent sometimes but when she is in the form she can be extremely versatile. Its not sonam or Anushka or even Deepika's cup of tea to portraya Jhilmil and a Kashibai or a Sonia and excel in all of them..So you cant really compare a limited actress like Sonam or a less screen presence wala star to portray a larger than life character</font></font>

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<font size="2"><font color="#999900">Also I am not giving credit only to Deepika for Deewani Mastani. A film is a team work and director is the captain of the ship and the star is the face of his vision. So the biggest chunk of credit is obviously reserved for the director. In the same way he has the same contribution to RS and PC's acting as well. But here we are discussing the star not the directors so obviously Deepika will get the credit</font></font>



I didn't compare Sonam or anybody with PC 😕

The topic was about will the other actresses do a better job than DP- you brought in the seetis & taalis which you credited to Deepika and which I said I disagreed and credited it more to the director & song. If Deepika was responsible for the seetis & taalis, she would've got them for mohe & pinga too. DP looked a vision during mohe too; but the deewani Mastani song was the best song of the album which is why it got what it got.
We are discussing the actresses doing justice to the role, not the star power they bring! DM was one part of the character, we are talking about the whole film here. When you credit DP for DM, I have to bring in the director to prove that IF any actress can do justice to 'Mastani' the character, she would've been able to justice to DM too with the same director's vision and the same vocals.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: JaaniDushman



You need to see the forum when the BM casting was announced- nobody though PC could pull off a period look like Kashibai, due to her urban looks. When the first poster came out, the same was said that PC has too much of western look for this films.

I disagree completely- there were TWO big actresses in Pinga and yet it didn't work. While songs like DJ waale babu Aur zinghat from Sairat got the seetis & taalis despite having no bigs stars. Not taking anything from what a good job Deepika did at Deewani Mastani, I do not agree she was the only reason why it got seetis & taalis, it was the song which made it what it is and the Grand way with how SLB directed the entry of Deepika in the song. Take that out, and Deepika even with her screen presence wouldn't be able to do nothing. Nagada was again SLB, and Lovely was another Sheila & Chikni what else do you expect? Fevicol & mera naam mary got the seetis & taalis too, despite Bebo doing a shit job at it, because it's the songs what made them popular.

These stars can do NOTHING without a good song, its the other way stars cannot do anything without these songs. That is why these days even flop films with newcomers have popular songs! And that is why today big stars interfere to say what songs to take in the movie, and which will work.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Visually i dont think Anu fits into the world of SLB while Sonam definetely and we saw how stunning she looked in Saawariya. I also believe that Bhansali contributes a lot to the perfomances of his actors more than any other director.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lilac_N_Maple



Again why are you bringing stardom and other stuff? I don't care what India wants. DP was the bigger star than the other 2 then and even now. I was strictly talking about acting. A good act >>>> than pretty face, screen presence yada yada. It's what makes a character a iconic. DP's deewani Mastani is NOT equal to BM. At the end of the day it's PC and RS who're remembered for their good performances in BM while DP only has a Deewani Mastani to boast about.
And TBH from when Mastani became iconic? I have no idea 😆 From what I remember , members and critrics expressed their dispaoointment in her performance. I am yet to finish the movie but from whatever I saw, she actually had a blank expression all through out to show how enchanted she was by Bajirao, not to mention the dialogue delivery.


A review from KoiMoi and they are usually kind to all movies.

Deepika Padukone according to me performs the weakest amongst the three stars. Even though she plays the lead, there are a lot of flaws in her act. Sure she looks beautiful but completely lacks the grace while performing on numbers such as Mohe Rang Do Laal. Her body language is too modern to embrace the charm of Mastani. In one of the scenes, her dialogue delivery is so weak that she sounds exactly like one of her dialogues from Tamasha.


First of all you have to look a part to be an character. It may not be important to you but that's how it works. 2ndly I dont feel Anushka or Sonam are superior actress then DP to pull off a character like Mastani. 3rd I said 'Deewani Mastani' is iconic now you are saying I said 'Mastani' is iconic. So first read carefully then we can argue !

And good for you to go by critics rule book like koimoi or raja sen. There are many other critics who liked DP's acting. Again I am not a sucker of critics review but mentioned since that's important for you

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