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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermione82



First of all you have to look a part to be an character. It may not be important to you but that's how it works. 2ndly I dont feel Anushka or Sonam are superior actress then DP to pull off a character like Mastani. 3rd I said 'Deewani Mastani' is iconic now you are saying I said 'Mastani' is iconic. So first read carefully then we can argue !

And good for you to go by critics rule book like koimoi or raja sen. There are many other critics who liked DP's acting. Again I am not a sucker of critics review but mentioned since that's important for you



Well if DP is percfect as Mastani, is she not iconic for you?
And why not go by critics' rule books? I am yet see a critic being unfair to her... Raja Sen never liked her until YJHD..and that's when she showed real improvement. The same critic who called Tara the life of Tamsha, would suddenly not turn against her at the time of BM right?
And members also have found her the weakest. If you think she's a good actress, then it's fine. Not necessairily others will have to. I definitely do not find her one..mainly because of her bad dialogue delivery.

Peace out!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lilac_N_Maple



Well if DP is percfect as Mastani, is she not iconic for you?
And why not go by critics' rule books? I am yet see a critic being unfair to her... Raja Sen never liked her until YJHD..and that's when she showed real improvement. The same critic who called Tara the life of Tamsha, would suddenly not turn against her at the time of BM right?
And members also have found her the weakest. If you think she's a good actress, then it's fine. Not necessairily others will have to. I definitely do not find her one..mainly because of her bad dialogue delivery.

Peace out!

Critics part is my individual preference. Its not about Deepika. I dont agree with them critics of the time hence the reviews are not important to me..
Secondly, TM asked whether Sonam and Anuska were the better choice than Deepika and all my answers are from that perspective. Neither Mastani as a character is perfect nor DP as Mastani is perfect but she is (for me) is definitely the better choice than Anu and Sonam. That's it
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53
Anushka might have pulled off the character this forum tends to underestimate her a lot, like PC also gets underestimated.
Sonam not that much she is limited actress.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Anushka might be a good actress according to this forum's logic... But she lacks screen presence, which dp certainly has, even kat has that presence which explains y these two became superstars despite their inabilities... Anu is hella boring.. 👎🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Fatima Sana Shaikh/ Huma Qureshi - these faces can pull off Mastani..
I really feel Huma is badly underestimated and under recognized in BW, considering she is one poetic face to look at..and even her voluptuous figure is fine for the era we are talking about..nobody was size zero or bony back then..

DP was random as Mastani (I did like her in some select scenes though) but more than that, she will totally murder Padmavati..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lilac_N_Maple



Again why are you bringing stardom and other stuff? I don't care what India wants. DP was the bigger star than the other 2 then and even now. I was strictly talking about acting. A good act >>>> than pretty face, screen presence yada yada. It's what makes a character a iconic. DP's deewani Mastani is NOT equal to BM. At the end of the day it's PC and RS who're remembered for their good performances in BM while DP only has a Deewani Mastani to boast about.
And TBH from when Mastani became iconic? I have no idea 😆 From what I remember , members and critrics expressed their dispaoointment in her performance. I am yet to finish the movie but from whatever I saw, she actually had a blank expression all through out to show how enchanted she was by Bajirao, not to mention the dialogue delivery.


A review from KoiMoi and they are usually kind to all movies.

Deepika Padukone according to me performs the weakest amongst the three stars. Even though she plays the lead, there are a lot of flaws in her act. Sure she looks beautiful but completely lacks the grace while performing on numbers such as Mohe Rang Do Laal. Her body language is too modern to embrace the charm of Mastani. In one of the scenes, her dialogue delivery is so weak that she sounds exactly like one of her dialogues from Tamasha.




😆 Hey why just stop at KoiMoi? 😈



Raja Sen - Padukone as Mastani, the fiery warrior princess -- looks dazzling, but her performance is wishy-washy. She starts off smiling oddly through grim dialogue and then appears to be making sword-noises with her mouth when in battle. We can't hear her over the thundering score, but she has the exact same expression boys with lightsabers sport while making their own sound effects. Her Mastani is obsessed with Bajirao, and while it was perhaps the film's requirement that Padukone look giddily entranced, there are times when she appears completely lost. It doesn't help that she's entirely eaten up by Priyanka Chopra, who, while not in the title, owns Bajirao Mastani. Her role is that of the moral right, but Bhansali goes out of his way to imbue her character with selflessness and dignity.


Sukanya Verma - One can say volumes about her shimmering beauty as the surreal but sketchy Mastani (the script can't decide if it wants to highlight her as a warrior, lover, courtesan or mother). Sadly, it's also Deepika Padukone's most affected performance in a long time. But, praise the lord, she's so full of this "noor" Bajirao keeps complimenting her for, I almost pretend I didn't hear her awful Urdu dialogue delivery.


Baradwaj Rangan - As a result, Kashi walks away with the movie. Priyanka Chopra gets the most sympathetic situations, the most sympathetic lines - it's a moving performance, covering the gamut from childlike happiness (she sits on her mother-in-law's lap and sobs when she hears her husband is safe) to spurned-woman bitterness (when she paints herself as the forgotten Rukmani amidst Krishna and Radha). Deepika Padukone, despite her innate luminosity, pales in comparison. Mastani is harder to get into. Apne hi dhun mein mast rehne wali, says Bajirao, and we agree - she's a little opaque. And Padukone isn't old-style enough (the way Madhubala or Madhuri Dixit were, say) to elevate an archetype with stylistic flourishes that can constitute a "performance." Her I'm-the-face-of-Garnier looks (that long neck, that long waist, those long legs) complicate things, especially when she delivers carefully chiseled old-world lines like, "Tujhe yaad kar liya aayat ki tarah / ab tera zikra hoga ibaadat ki tarah." It was easier accepting her as the gun-toting Leela.


Rajeev Masand - As far as central roles go, the film benefits from a nice touch of playfulness and humor in Priyanka Chopra's Kashibai. Your heart goes out to her in scenes where she must confront the fact that she's not Bajirao's great love. Chopra brings grace to the character, and practically steals the film. Deepika Padukone as Mastani is a woman of exquisite beauty. You're captivated by the heft that Padukone lends to her fight scenes, or when her eyes speak more of her suffering than words. Her character, though, is strictly one-dimensional and therefore tedious.


TOI - Ranveer pulls off Bajirao with chiseled muscles and glittering eyes, a Marathi lilt that delights, balancing vulnerability and vivaciousness. But Deepika's Mastani remains muted - you occasionally glimpse dark eyes drunk on love, the fire of a fighter-princess, but you miss the full-blown passion of this lead pair. In contrast, by the end, Priyanka impresses as quiet Kashi conveys the sorrow of a wife, a lover, a friend, forgotten


Shubha Shetty-Saha - Surprisingly what should have been the strongest link of the film ends up being the weakest. Deepika Padukone as Mastani looks stunningly gorgeous but seems unfortunately handicapped with an unidimensional role and not so inspiring dialogues. Deepika Padukone shines as she is introduced as a brave fighter but loses her steam when she walks over to the other side to turn into a miserable woman pining for love and acceptance, while making predictable references to romantic cliches like Radha and Krishna's love story. Even though Kashibai had a much smaller role, her character seemed more layered and fleshed out better.


Shilpa Jamkhandikar - The weak link is Deepika Padukone, which is surprising given the golden run she's had lately. Padukone is so busy trying to be the ethereal beauty and mouthing dialogue like "Ishq ibadat hai" (love is worship) that she forgets to emote. She sports a permanent martyred expression throughout the film and fails to give us a sense of Mastani.

Edited by Angelberry - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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DP wasn't perfect in all her scenes as Mastani. Her dead single tone dialogues were a huge let down. In Mohe Rang do Lal, she was stiff most of the time.

And I personally think Anu and DP are at par with each other. But there are roles that they can't interchange. Mastani is one of them. Anu would have great difficulty looking the part. Unless of course Slb does some magic.

Sonam is not even in competition. But even Anu couldn't have done Mastani.

With all its flaws, DP was the choice from current lot of actresses. She looked perfect in deewani mastani song. She danced so much better in it than other songs of BM. And her fight sequences were brilliant.

So no Anu and No sonam.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ash or Madhuri would have done well
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I personally don't think Anushka can
She seems like a bull in the china shop- extremely exaggerated, not very delicate or nazakat, lots of excess.

I just dont see her in very feminine roles
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Posted: 8 years ago
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