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Rida

@FleetingWishes.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: Laska

bold - here it is. And if she does not suffer? Probably is, and probably not. What if you are going to treat a healthy person? Are you ready to take responsibility for the result of such treatment?
For example, we may have a person probably suffering from a cold, and he was treated for a cold, and he had pneumonia not probably, do you know the result? He died. Cool treatment?
Come on. In this world, everyone has problems, let's all treat a psychiatrist, why not?
Anger control problems, obsession, fear, phobia, self-doubt - why not treat all this with a psychiatrist?

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OH MY GOD DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING--ANY BLOODY THING--ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY AND PSYCHIATRY AND THE PROCEDURES? What are you talking about?

I said probably because psychotic disorder is a branch of mental disorders. Which means she can either suffer from these or straight up psychopathy as the CVs are showing nowadays.

AND COMING TO THE BOLD PART - My love, you have NO idea about a psychiatric procedure do you? You're only twisting and beating about facts to prove tthat Maya's absolutely normal and hunky dory. What do you think happens in a psychiatric procedure? First you go set up an appointment with a doctor. The doctors then conduct a few brain scans and few personality tests in which you fill a few forms. The doctors are perfectly nice and these are written tests and and verbal tests. After your tests come back a panel of doctors discuss your problem with you--if your brain is functioning (Which Maya's brain is clearly doing), then you discuss a treatment method and other alternatives. IT HAPPENS AFTER YOUR PROBLEM IS DIAGNOSED! It happens under the patient's consent if the patient is sane or under the guardian's consent if the patient is mentally handicapped. Then the treatments and procedures follow.

THESE PROCEDURES--treatments--happen from depression, to PTSD, to ADHD, to other problems. You need to read on the topic. Really. please don't take this as me patronizing you. But you have no idea what you're talking about. And it's always good to read upon the material.

I don't think we have anything else further to discuss because you'll again try to come up with subjective views about a topic you know nothing of. You're just maligning and creating a social stigma about psychiatry and psychiatrists and if one of them reads your post, they'll probably go in shock.😆

Thankyou for contributing to the discussion.

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Ammy

@--Amulya--

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#42

I randomly bumped into this forum and as this is your post Rida, I'd had to read it...

Mental illness seems to be the most common disease found around the world and is also the one which is most neglected/ignored. I pity those people who can't recognise that they might need professional help as people always cover up most of the miseries in lives which they however aren't able to overcome as a mere test by god (by the way I'm a true atheist) which is clearly not the case.

@Laska, I'll try to explain to you in your own words, a person will be recovered from an illness like cold in 7 days even without medication but if its a much sever illness he needs treatment, in similar lines if a person is able to overcome some disaster in his life then he wouldn't need help but if he isn't able to overcome it and he has clearly become a different person behaviour-wise then he definitely needs treatment, as in professional help from a psychiatrist.

I just loved this post so much that I couldn't resist from commenting. I've never watched this show as the promos clearly indicated the superstitious beliefs that would be looming over. I would'e instead preferred a story where the ML guides the FL with professional help. I would call that as progressive, rest all is just holys**t.

Edited by --Amulya-- - 8 years ago

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Laska

@Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.
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OH MY GOD DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING--ANY BLOODY THING--ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY AND PSYCHIATRY AND THE PROCEDURES? What are you talking about?

I said probably because psychotic disorder is a branch of mental disorders. Which means she can either suffer from these or straight up psychopathy as the CVs are showing nowadays.

AND COMING TO THE BOLD PART - My love, you have NO idea about a psychiatric procedure do you? You're only twisting and beating about facts to prove tthat Maya's absolutely normal and hunky dory. What do you think happens in a psychiatric procedure? First you go set up an appointment with a doctor. The doctors then conduct a few brain scans and few personality tests in which you fill a few forms. The doctors are perfectly nice and these are written tests and and verbal tests. After your tests come back a panel of doctors discuss your problem with you--if your brain is functioning (Which Maya's brain is clearly doing), then you discuss a treatment method and other alternatives. IT HAPPENS AFTER YOUR PROBLEM IS DIAGNOSED! It happens under the patient's consent if the patient is sane or under the guardian's consent if the patient is mentally handicapped. Then the treatments and procedures follow.

THESE PROCEDURES--treatments--happen from depression, to PTSD, to ADHD, to other problems. You need to read on the topic. Really. please don't take this as me patronizing you. But you have no idea what you're talking about. And it's always good to read upon the material.

I don't think we have anything else further to discuss because you'll again try to come up with subjective views about a topic you know nothing of. You're just maligning and creating a social stigma about psychiatry and psychiatrists and if one of them reads your post, they'll probably go in shock.😆

Thankyou for contributing to the discussion.

In fact, this is a real example. The guy was only 14, and he died. Simply because all these tests, analyses, etc. were made incorrectly, negligently

And you laugh, and we had three schools buried him, the whole district, his parents were heartbroken, and his mother was lost her mind, quite realistic

I just wanted to say that before you judge a person, treat him, you must think, think a lot, before acting

You drew the perfect picture, but in the real world this happens very rarely. And I think you know this very well. This is not speculation by facts - it is a spectrum in which there is everything from the ideal to the worst hell

But I was right, you burn a living person alive outside the show

Good luck

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Rida

@FleetingWishes.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: --Amulya--
I randomly bumped into this forum and as this is your post Rida, I'd had to read it...

Mental illness seems to be the most common disease found around the world and is also the one which is most neglected/ignored. I pity those people who can't recognise that they might need professional help as people always cover up most of the miseries in lives as a mere test by god (by the way I'm a true atheist) which is clearly not the case.

I just loved this post so much that I couldn't resist from commenting. I've never watched this show as the promos clearly indicated the superstitious beliefs that would be looming over. I would'e instead preferred a story where the ML guides the FL with professional help. I would call that as progressive, rest all is just holys**t.

thank you. I really appreciate that.
Mental Illnesses aren't given enough importance and the social stigma surrounding them is worse than we can imagine. If you go to a psychologist for depression or even counseling people look at you as if you've committed some crime or that you're borderline insane. It's sad to see how people treat the word 'mental illness' and go on to act like like these things don't exist or that only the most insane--people who're mentally handicapped--need it. We try so hard to prove that the world we live in is all romantic and happy and try to brush less-than-perfect things under the carpet.
I'm a firm believer in owning our actions and in the growth mindset. Everything can be improved if we set our minds to it. I follow a faith religiously, however, I'm always encouraged to seek both worldly and spiritual (God) counsels. And I think that's what we should all do. there's a dire need to eradicate the social stigma around such things. Around medical procedures and treatments and medical illnesses. It's sad how people think some of those don't even exist.

I thought the show will be a true crime/love thriller. 😆 It looked inspired from gone girl. But it has more or less been a khichri with weak to average writing. Season 2 looks better.

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Rida

@FleetingWishes.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: Laska

In fact, this is a real example. The guy was only 14, and he died. Simply because all these tests, analyses, etc. were made incorrectly, negligently
And you laugh, and we had three schools buried him, the whole district, his parents were heartbroken, and his mother was lost her mind, quite realistic
I just wanted to say that before you judge a person, treat him, you must think, think a lot, before acting
You drew the perfect picture, but in the real world this happens very rarely. And I think you know this very well. This is not speculation by facts - it is a spectrum in which there is everything from the ideal to the worst hell
But I was right, you burn a living person alive outside the show
Good luck

Like I said you know nothing about medical and psychiatric procedures. You are just hell-bent on proving your point.
What you're quoting is an unusual occurring. It's something that needs to be investigated into and this is a case of doctor negligence. I'm really sorry for the loss but this is an anomaly.

This happens--unfortunately--in medicine. Sometimes doctors aren't able to save people. But what you're saying is completely illogical and factless. You're saying that because a small statistics of people aren't given the right treatment nobody should go and seek help. So if you suffer from a brain tumor and you hear that a person sought a doctor and they died you sit at home and watch netflix? You are maligning psychiatry, mental illnesses, psychiatrists, doctors just to prove a point that is statistically invalid? We're talking about proved, hard, cold facts here.

I think you very well know how oblivious you are to how medicine and the medicinal procedures work and are cooking up baloney just to keep proving a point that has no statistical bases in the real world. You are blaming--maligning--psychiatry, discouraging psychiatry and doing it without any mathematical data.

You are wrong darling. And I hope one day you understand this fact. I don't see how continuing this discussion can benefit any of us when you're so clueless about most psychiatric institutions and practictioners and are hell-bent on proving something that's not even true. Good luck. I'd rather you stop replying because I don't see how I can explain a fact to you you're not ready to accept. And I have worked in such an institution. I've seen many of them around. I worked for a normal low-key one. It's a standard natural way things work in medicine or psychiatry. And if that doesn't work near your asylum or hospital, you need to report it to the authorities rather than calling all psychiatric methods and procedures dangerous.

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Ammy

@--Amulya--

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Posted: 8 years ago

#46

Hey rida, I would like to know your suggestion, I'm planning to do my 2nd masters in psychology this year, name some good shows from where I can grab some info/knowledge!! I would love to watch few really good shows based on psychology.

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Rida

@FleetingWishes.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: --Amulya--
Hey rida, I would like to know your suggestion, I'm planning to do my 2nd masters in psychology this year, name some good shows from where I can grab some info/knowledge!! I would love to watch few really good shows based on psychology.

Hey Amulya congratulations on your impending masters and I hope you've a great time doing it. I'm touched you'd ask me such a thing but I've hardly seen much shows.😆 And I wouldn't dare recommend Indian shows to you. It also depends on what field of psychology are you exactly going to masters in and the fact that TV shows are never concrete in facts so you should go for books in my opinion. Solid and full of facts.
But if you want to watch purely out of interest Dexter is a very revered show because the main protagonist is psychopath. I want to watch Hannibal sometime in the future because Hannibal Lector is one of my most favorite characters.
My friend's suggesting Knick. It's more a medical dark drama.

I say make google your best friend. Never disappoints me. You'll definitely find a great list suited for your preferences.

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Ammy

@--Amulya--

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.
Hey Amulya congratulations on your impending masters and I hope you've a great time doing it. I'm touched you'd ask me such a thing but I've hardly seen much shows.😆 And I wouldn't dare recommend Indian shows to you. It also depends on what field of psychology are you exactly going to masters in and the fact that TV shows are never concrete in facts so you should go for books in my opinion. Solid and full of facts.
But if you want to watch purely out of interest Dexter is a very revered show because the main protagonist is psychopath. I want to watch Hannibal sometime in the future because Hannibal Lector is one of my most favorite characters.
My friend's suggesting Knick. It's more a medical dark drama.

I say make google your best friend. Never disappoints me. You'll definitely find a great list suited for your preferences.

Thanks yaar, I don't have much idea about the fields of university the university (andhra university) in my hometown is offering.

I'm actually interested in serial killers and have read too many stories of real-life ones on google. Its pretty scary that we''ll never know who they'll target next, its irrespective of age and sex. Hannibal's stories of cannibalism are pretty scary too. I'll try to watch both Dexter and Knick but you know watching those kind of movies/series is much tough than reading the same stories, impact is entirely different. I'll mostly go for books but also watch maybe 1/2 series.

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kavita

@kavitha_r

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: sumz_d

While I agree with your point of "toxic relationship" having no future but in Beyhadh's case Maya isn't that bad as she is made out to be...

The problem is Maya tried her level best to win VM's heart and be accepted. But it was VM's "Zidd" that pushed Maya to extreme. And if VM was not enough Arjun himself pushed Maya into making her feel Insecure. The kind of behaviour that Arjun and Saanjh displayed infront of Maya in the past was in no way Appropriate.

And Maya having seeing her mother and Ashwin relationship being kaput due to Shipra has made Maya believe that the only way to maintain Love relationship is by controlling.

Arjun is largely to be blamed for Maya's controlling behaviour.

@FleetingWishes Disagreeing is not a problem unless the discussion is cordial. Basically I am not a harsh or a rude person and it is proved in other forums. I had registered here much earlier but when I moved out of the town, i was inactive for about 5 to 6 years and I came back. I have made a lot of friends here. I am saying this because on this forum I find some of them are quite rude which forces me to give it back. After all it is a fictional character. I hope you are at least different from them though our opinions are different.

Coming to the show, I agree and disagree with some of them. Agree that Maya needs medical help before reuniting with Arjun or moving on with someone else. That is what I am looking for. As for the psychopath, I would say that even the most normal person can become a psychopath.

Coming to Maya, Vandana's hatred began with her superstitious beliefs and had gone to the extent of believing Ashwin who is a tyrant. She is aware of what Ashwin had done to her. So being a nurse, she should not be surprised if Maya had stabbed his leg. Instead she should have looked upon her with empathy. The least thing she could have done was to talk to Jhanvi to know the other side of the story instead of jumping to conclusions. After the wedding, Maya had genuinely tried to fit the bill but Vandana didn't accept her because of the prejudice. She has conveniently overlooked at other good things. All that Maya needed is unconditional love which she didn't get.

As for Arjun, Maya had given him freedom but he has misused it. Arjun is also responsible for Maya's psychotic behavior. She can forgive or overlook small mistakes but what Arjun did was very serious. No wife would tolerate their man. getting intimate with his best female friend to the extent of ignoring her burns after saving his friend from getting burnt. Spiking comes later but even before that their behavior in holy has not been upto the mark. So I consider bhang consumption as a lame excuse.

For a person like Arjun, whoever he marries, he has to learn to respect others feelings and be sensitive towards them whether it is Saanjh or Maya or any other xyz. Whether the life partner is normal or not is a separate case but making a marriage toxic or not is in that person's hands. Arjun being a normal person has been taking people around him for granted. After getting the responsibility to manage F and C, he took wife and life for granted. He does not deserve any girl unless he grows up as a matured person. I have not seen him showing any empathy towards anyone except in one scene where he told Vandana that if he was in Maya's place he would have killed him for the torture.

If he had saved her from Ashwin, anyone in that place would have done that at least on humanitarian grounds.

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Phosphorus

@Novarieaa

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: Laska

And if a person is sick with the flu, and you are treating him from the malaria, what will be the result?

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I don't know how else to make someone understand who does not want to?
If trying to run over 2 people is equivalent to mere flu - then I am speechless. 😆

She needs diagnosis and treatment. For that a doctor is a must. One can't simply cure mental illness sitting at home, in a country where awarness on mental health is almost zero and people shiver at the mention of psychopath or therapy , just like you did.

One can still visit a doctor for a minor flu. That's not detrimental at all.

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